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Fire Mike Eaves?
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Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
Pretty much true. Somewhere in this thread there's a post that says something like "It's not like Alvarez sits up at night thinking, "We're Wisconsin! We can't suck at Hockey!""
While it certainly doesn't keep him up at night, I'm guessing he spends at least 4 or 5 minutes a week checking on hockey. (Ok, right now even that's probably out the window.) But I do think that, if we go like 6-20-4, at some point during those 4 or 5 minutes a week even Barry's going to go, "Wait a minute, we suck at Hockey?? Geez... maybe I should look into this..."
He might be a hockey guy at all, but he still doesn't like losers under his watch.
Pretty much true. Somewhere in this thread there's a post that says something like "It's not like Alvarez sits up at night thinking, "We're Wisconsin! We can't suck at Hockey!""
While it certainly doesn't keep him up at night, I'm guessing he spends at least 4 or 5 minutes a week checking on hockey. (Ok, right now even that's probably out the window.) But I do think that, if we go like 6-20-4, at some point during those 4 or 5 minutes a week even Barry's going to go, "Wait a minute, we suck at Hockey?? Geez... maybe I should look into this..."
He might be a hockey guy at all, but he still doesn't like losers under his watch.
Chuck Schwartz
New member
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
Alvarez is nothing more than a face for the athletic department. If you're going to praise or criticize anyone in that department in regards to decisions on hockey, It's Sean Frazier.
Alvarez is nothing more than a face for the athletic department. If you're going to praise or criticize anyone in that department in regards to decisions on hockey, It's Sean Frazier.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
Yeah, but unfortunately he oversees football too, right? (And Women's hockey ...and thus, I fit Mark Johnson into another post.) With Bielema throwing the department into a tizzy, I doubt anyone's paying attention to hockey soon. I just picture Barry popping in and getting some kind of report on how things are going... or maybe he just runs through the website? Anyway, the team maybe has to suck pretty bad, but at some point even Barry's gotta take notice.
I still think Coach Eaves would do well back in the NHL.
Oh... uh... Nevermind.
edit: Well Barry might take notice after he coaches the Rose Bowl, I mean.
Yeah, but unfortunately he oversees football too, right? (And Women's hockey ...and thus, I fit Mark Johnson into another post.) With Bielema throwing the department into a tizzy, I doubt anyone's paying attention to hockey soon. I just picture Barry popping in and getting some kind of report on how things are going... or maybe he just runs through the website? Anyway, the team maybe has to suck pretty bad, but at some point even Barry's gotta take notice.
I still think Coach Eaves would do well back in the NHL.
Oh... uh... Nevermind.
edit: Well Barry might take notice after he coaches the Rose Bowl, I mean.
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Chuck Schwartz
New member
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
I'm sure Barry hears the results but I doubt he delves too deep into what happened with the exception of really big series. Frazier on the other hand is tuned in and I've even seen him make a road trip with the team (not sure how often he does that).
I know we rag on the guys in the athletic department a lot but after all they did help get a new practice facility built whether we like their approach or not.
I'm sure Barry hears the results but I doubt he delves too deep into what happened with the exception of really big series. Frazier on the other hand is tuned in and I've even seen him make a road trip with the team (not sure how often he does that).
I know we rag on the guys in the athletic department a lot but after all they did help get a new practice facility built whether we like their approach or not.
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
The only way Eaves gets fired is if the university starts getting some bad press. That is what will really make the Athletic Dept. really take notice. People sitting at the game in full view of everyone (first deck, behind benches or penalty boxes) wearing bags over their head might start doing the trick. Would probably draw some camera time and get more people talking about it. Or maybe we could sponsor a bag-game? Downside is that people may kick you out or threaten to take your tix away.
The only way Eaves gets fired is if the university starts getting some bad press. That is what will really make the Athletic Dept. really take notice. People sitting at the game in full view of everyone (first deck, behind benches or penalty boxes) wearing bags over their head might start doing the trick. Would probably draw some camera time and get more people talking about it. Or maybe we could sponsor a bag-game? Downside is that people may kick you out or threaten to take your tix away.
UpNorthHockey
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solovsfett
Registered User
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
that has to hit home, along w/the fact they're going to lose $2million in revenue if attendance continues as it's been for the first 4 games (not including tonight obviously which was another dip).
UW is falling precipitously and this SHOULD get the coach fired under any "normal" circumstance.
that has to hit home, along w/the fact they're going to lose $2million in revenue if attendance continues as it's been for the first 4 games (not including tonight obviously which was another dip).
UW is falling precipitously and this SHOULD get the coach fired under any "normal" circumstance.
sweatpants
Registered User
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
Well according to Andy Baggot(Wisconsin hockey beat writer) Eaves isn't close to being fired. He also said they have lost 4,000 season ticket holders in the last 6 years, but said not all of it can be attributed to on-ice performance.
Well according to Andy Baggot(Wisconsin hockey beat writer) Eaves isn't close to being fired. He also said they have lost 4,000 season ticket holders in the last 6 years, but said not all of it can be attributed to on-ice performance.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Oh, what a load of crap.
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
I'm going to make a call myself. My family "donates" thousands to the badger fund to retain the effing football and basketball seats, well in exchange I want a WINNING ****ING HOCKEY TEAM! Eaves has to go, this is just embarrassing and untenable.
I'm going to make a call myself. My family "donates" thousands to the badger fund to retain the effing football and basketball seats, well in exchange I want a WINNING ****ING HOCKEY TEAM! Eaves has to go, this is just embarrassing and untenable.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
And if a ton of people weren't just waiting in the wings to donate thousands to get your football and basketball tickets, that phone call would probably mean a lot more.
I know your frustration. I thought about cancelling my Gopher Hockey season tickets and wrote and called Joel Maturi dozens of times asking for Lucia's head. Even the Twin Cities mainstream media was saying it was probably time for a change. But instead, he got extended.
With the amount of years left on Eaves contract, I think you'd be wasting your time man.
Goid news is, I think things are going to get better for UW. Grant Besse will make an immediate and significant impact next season. The kid just know how to put the puck in the net. Then you have Dvorak and Malone in 2014 (I believe), who are also looking like high-end offensive talents.
And the best thing about all three of those guys is that they aren't prototypical NHL sized players, so they should be 3-4 year guys.
Eaves hit the same snag Lucia did. Between 2006-2009 the Gophers lost a ton of guys early, then had a ton of guys struggle because the departures forced them to be brought in too soon. Add to that a few guys who just didn't pan out and it was a frustrating time to be a Gopher fan.
But Lucia adjusted his recruiting (like Eaves apoears to be doing now), and it turned pretty quick. Just be patient. I promise things will get better.
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
I appreciate your kind words and insight, I really do, however it's tough from my perspective to see the bright spots
for one thing, Besse is a great player but he alone is not enough to take the team to the promised land and acknowledging that, I don't know why Zengerle or Mersch stay for their Senior seasons which would make matters exponentially worse next season. but even if they stay, put Besse on this year's team. they still would not be .500
re: 2014 if Kerdiles and Besse are still around they could possibly have 2 strong lines but still, that's a lot of ifs...
I don't know, I REALLY hope you're right.
I remember hopping into the gopher threads during the "fire lucia" years and saying my piece which is he's a great coach don't get rid of him. the difference is I respected so much what he did at CC (that proved exactly how great he was, resurrecting that team from the scrap heap). W/Eaves? I'm not nearly as certain.
I appreciate your kind words and insight, I really do, however it's tough from my perspective to see the bright spots
for one thing, Besse is a great player but he alone is not enough to take the team to the promised land and acknowledging that, I don't know why Zengerle or Mersch stay for their Senior seasons which would make matters exponentially worse next season. but even if they stay, put Besse on this year's team. they still would not be .500
re: 2014 if Kerdiles and Besse are still around they could possibly have 2 strong lines but still, that's a lot of ifs...
I don't know, I REALLY hope you're right.
I remember hopping into the gopher threads during the "fire lucia" years and saying my piece which is he's a great coach don't get rid of him. the difference is I respected so much what he did at CC (that proved exactly how great he was, resurrecting that team from the scrap heap). W/Eaves? I'm not nearly as certain.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
I get it. I really do. I saw no bright spots either. I deeply believed we had fundamental problems with our program that would take years to fix. I didn't have any faith in our committed recruits because so many during that stretch came in and did nothing.
But as an outsider who has seen Besse play a ton, he will instantly make a difference. I mean 40pt freshman difference. If you don't have any major departures, which I don't think you will, that spark will be HUGE.
It turned fast for us, and I think it will for you. You have outstanding goaltending. You guys are usually very sound defensively. I think you're just missing that one piece offensively. A guy like Besse will do wonders for other guys as well as rack up points.
I have been hard on you guys because you're our biggest rival, but I don't like seeing UW this down. And most of you guys here are very passionate about your team, and I know how it is to live and die with a struggling team. I feel for you guys a little.
I get it. I really do. I saw no bright spots either. I deeply believed we had fundamental problems with our program that would take years to fix. I didn't have any faith in our committed recruits because so many during that stretch came in and did nothing.
But as an outsider who has seen Besse play a ton, he will instantly make a difference. I mean 40pt freshman difference. If you don't have any major departures, which I don't think you will, that spark will be HUGE.
It turned fast for us, and I think it will for you. You have outstanding goaltending. You guys are usually very sound defensively. I think you're just missing that one piece offensively. A guy like Besse will do wonders for other guys as well as rack up points.
I have been hard on you guys because you're our biggest rival, but I don't like seeing UW this down. And most of you guys here are very passionate about your team, and I know how it is to live and die with a struggling team. I feel for you guys a little.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
And let me say again for emphasis, you are in for a REALLY big treat with Grant Besse. He'll be an instant fan favorite.
And let me say again for emphasis, you are in for a REALLY big treat with Grant Besse. He'll be an instant fan favorite.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
UW needs 3 of him every year the next 3 years to get anywhere. As Solo said, if Mersch and/or Zengerlee leave, UW is sunk. Well, they are already sunk, I guess they won't get above the surface then. They are just too thin on top end talent to survive defections @ F.
UW needs 3 of him every year the next 3 years to get anywhere. As Solo said, if Mersch and/or Zengerlee leave, UW is sunk. Well, they are already sunk, I guess they won't get above the surface then. They are just too thin on top end talent to survive defections @ F.
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
again, I really appreciate your input on this, you know your hockey and are forthright.
I hope you're right and UW can turn it around so that UW vs. MN games will once again be something to really look forward too
again, I really appreciate your input on this, you know your hockey and are forthright.
I hope you're right and UW can turn it around so that UW vs. MN games will once again be something to really look forward too
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
I saw the Baggot interview too. He did say that, but I thought PB then followed up with a question/comment that the hockey program isn't currently being evaluated? Baggot replied something to the extent that "they are being evaluated and bottom line (I think he used that phrase) this team needs to start winning this year."
I saw the Baggot interview too. He did say that, but I thought PB then followed up with a question/comment that the hockey program isn't currently being evaluated? Baggot replied something to the extent that "they are being evaluated and bottom line (I think he used that phrase) this team needs to start winning this year."
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Fire Mike Eaves?
I would have loved to see that interview. 4000 season ticket holders over a 6 year period is a mass exodus. I have to believe based on the attendance the last 2 years that this trend has more leaving the last 2 years than the first 4 combined.
There's a serious issue with the fanbase being turned off by the team's performance. My hockey hardcore eldest son wanted me to turn off the game Friday and watch something else but we stuck it out. I can't say that I blame him. If hardcore fans are turning their backs, there's trouble in river city.
I would have loved to see that interview. 4000 season ticket holders over a 6 year period is a mass exodus. I have to believe based on the attendance the last 2 years that this trend has more leaving the last 2 years than the first 4 combined.
There's a serious issue with the fanbase being turned off by the team's performance. My hockey hardcore eldest son wanted me to turn off the game Friday and watch something else but we stuck it out. I can't say that I blame him. If hardcore fans are turning their backs, there's trouble in river city.