Elmira College - 2012/2013

[jconnor]

Re: Leadership from within

Re: Leadership from within

A good leader tempers and adjusts his/her style for the intended audience. Some players respond to emotion, others to rational persuasion. Frankly, if a human is not wired to lead emotionally, it's something that really can't be turned of and on. These 'kids' are 21/22 year olds that - by now - should be internally motivated and be lead by the team captains/leaders, and not be solely relying on a screaming coach.

In Saul's defense, not since the inaugural EC season has there been a confluence of events resulting in that large a turnover of players. With EC's tuition, increased outside aid scrutiny, and lack of hockey-player-attractive majors at Elmira, getting 15 blue-chippers in a single season was simply never going to happen (Niagara's exceptional recruiting class was based on the fact they were going D1 in two years). The optimal mix of size, speed, raw talent, emotion, and experience just wasn't there this season.

Was this season a resounding success? not if measured in W/L and consistent effort, but there is a nucleus of Frosh talent on the team which - if augmented over the next two recruiting classes - should gel by the end of next season. Hopefully a couple of "motivated" transfers (ie not D1 washouts) and a standout netminder will also see an opportunity to step right in as well. The closest parallel situation I recall was the recruiting class of ?1991? that beat Plattsburgh for 3rd place in a pre-determined FF Minnesota? site in 1993 as sophomores. (Sorry Remy)

Strong cause for optimism.

I have to agree with the majority of your post. However -we still should have finished at above .500, I just don't see that happening unless they "win out" Possible? Oh yes, Probable? nope.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

I have to agree with the majority of your post. However -we still should have finished at above .500, I just don't see that happening unless they "win out" Possible? Oh yes, Probable? nope.

Let's not forget Ceglarski had two right around .500 seasons before building it back up and laying the ground work for what elmira's five or so years of really dominating the ECAC west regular season and consistently making the NCAA Tournament.

 

[quicksilver]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

Does anyone know if the Elmira vs Nazareth game has a video broadcast this evening (Friday, Feb 1)? The www.empire8.tv does not have the game listed. Thank you.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Re: UC v EC

Re: UC v EC

Hey guys!! Hope all is well, look forward to seeing all of you this coming weekend for Alumni Athletic Weekend. Got a great group of hockey alums coming back....
We will be doing the Wounded Warrior game again this year and I wanted to put this out there for anyone interested in bidding on a jersey. If you have any questions, please let me know. See ya this weekend!

Elmira College will be joining the effort to support the Wounded Warrior -- Hockey Helpers Campaign, at its February 2nd home Men's Ice Hockey contest versus Nazareth College.

Fans can now begin bidding on game worn Wounded Warrior player jerseys. Bidding is now officially open and will end the night of February 13th, 2013 at midnight. The starting price of all jerseys is $125.00 with minimum increments of $10.00. Fans also have the option of buying the jersey for the price of $250.00.

http://auction.elmira.edu/auction.aspx

Those look nice! Really wish I had the money to put in a bid on one, but I'm a broke college student

 

[EC809]

Re: Leadership from within

Re: Leadership from within

GO EC!!! Saul recuited all the kids w/ Ceglarskis's run.They Coaching staff was a good mix. They should be fine under Aaron's watch. Good Luck rest of the year.

 

[EC809]

Re: UC v EC

Re: UC v EC

Hey guys!! Hope all is well, look forward to seeing all of you this coming weekend for Alumni Athletic Weekend. Got a great group of hockey alums coming back....
We will be doing the Wounded Warrior game again this year and I wanted to put this out there for anyone interested in bidding on a jersey. If you have any questions, please let me know. See ya this weekend!

Elmira College will be joining the effort to support the Wounded Warrior -- Hockey Helpers Campaign, at its February 2nd home Men's Ice Hockey contest versus Nazareth College.

Fans can now begin bidding on game worn Wounded Warrior player jerseys. Bidding is now officially open and will end the night of February 13th, 2013 at midnight. The starting price of all jerseys is $125.00 with minimum increments of $10.00. Fans also have the option of buying the jersey for the price of $250.00.
Albert gave me one from last years Wounded Warrior players jersey. I better get in on this years Jersey. GO EC!!
http://auction.elmira.edu/auction.aspx[/QUOTE]

 

[elbojpb]

Naz v EC

Naz v EC

• Superb crowd tonight ... 1500+ with all the freebies
• Naz began the game by forechecking only 1, and parking the bus at their blue line. Interesting strategy considering EC's chronic issue with clearing the puck from their own end. (Naz evidently can't yet afford to scout)
• The two stripes tonight were obviously brought up from the beer leagues, and were simply making up calls. The dreaded trip/dive was awarded on the most egregious trip I've ever seen.
• The tenVanHolt/Collins/Whittle line was back together, and put together some of the most complete shifts of the season. Great combination of savvy, hands, size, speed.
• Hoey back from the ankle issue from Plattsburgh. Nice to see him one last time at the Domes.

• E1 - Result of the 7/9/10 line cycling the puck and wearing down the Naz defense
• E2 - Shot from the blue line miraculously through 3 players
• E3 - The good hands award of tenVanHolt tipping in a long passhot
• E4 - One of the very few pretty bang/bang goals of the year.
• N1 - Two on one
• N2 - PP defense lost a Naz forward skating across the crease from the side boards

It's been an interesting ride. See you all next season (unless the wife will consent to another Lake Placid adventure)

 

[jconnor]

Re: Naz v EC

Re: Naz v EC

tenVanHolt/Collins/Whittle line should/must stay intact, they are the best line IMHO. Good to see some of the "92" boys back. At least we knew Feola wasn't reffing a game tonight

 

[jconnor]

Re: Naz v EC

Re: Naz v EC

Last night, got started talking playoffs, I'm under the impression that the format is the same as previous years, play-in game Wed. #s 4v5. However it was mentioned that all 6 teams play, #s 1+2 get a bye, then #3v6, #4v5. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

 

[jconnor]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

Just announced that the Jackals will stay in Elmira. Good. No room for EC. To move down there

 

[smbenny]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

All we need to do now is make the Domes a bit more fan friendly and when the team is winning again perhaps we'll see bigger crowds. Heard someone say this week that the Alumni game crowd was really nice! It's funny to hear that when only 1,350 people were there and you know how big the crowds used to be!

 

[jconnor]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

All we need to do now is make the Domes a bit more fan friendly and when the team is winning again perhaps we'll see bigger crowds. Heard someone say this week that the Alumni game crowd was really nice! It's funny to hear that when only 1,350 people were there and you know how big the crowds used to be!

It is frustrating to see the small crowds I'll admit. Since the renovations they did when they added the Women's Team, I find the Domes "a bit" more comfortable, heat wise, no where near as bad as it used to be. A new scoreboard at the other end helps too. The concession area (inside) is 110% better than it used to be also, they even have a feed of the game on a TV in there now. To me, this means improvement that should help a little. Maybe more Fan interaction like they did at teh Alumni game (T-shirt toss) might help? Get rid of the chuck a puck and have the "score-O" game? raffles? lots can be done, just have to get the College to approve/do it. Back in the old Guelph Jr. Games, they would have a raffle of a hockey stick signed by all of the players, it was a huge hit with the kids. Maybe it's not allowed by NCAA?
I rememeber those big crowds, mentioned them to the Father of "Jones" from Naz. at the game, he was really impressed with the Domes.

 

[ECcharles4]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

I wanted to reach out to everyone and say thanks for a great Alumni Weekend. The crowds were great and it was awesome to see some of you guys!
I will admit though my legs are still sore from my "lap" Saturday night....I just don't have it like I used to haha. Hope everyone enjoyed the jerseys, we look forward to continuing the tradition for years to come.

Pending the weather, if any of you are coming down for the MVille game in Stamford, CT let me know. That's where I am now so would love to catch up with anyone I missed!!!

 

[BigRedGuy]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

Just announced that the Jackals will stay in Elmira. Good. No room for EC. To move down there

i wouldn't gueantee that in the least. Jackals still belong to Afr and if you have done any research on the guy whoever dropped that bomb gurantee should be fired and replaced by a monkey. Afr won't pay rent, hell he turned down FREE rent this season. Afr likely won't sell and if he would his selling price is off the charts. Rumor has it that back in the day he turned down $17 million for the arena and team.

 

[headsup]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

since the rest of the court decision is not public knowledge, it is not known if afr or someone else will be runing the jackals
next year. most likely someone else as things got dropped during decision process. he turned down free rent because he would
have not been able to recoup his outlay of salaries etc because the new owners were to get all ticket and concession money as well as advertising money.
tough to run a business when all your money goes out with no way tobring any in. although he has gotten a lot of money in,
without paying much out doesn't help his case.

 

[BigRedGuy]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

since the rest of the court decision is not public knowledge, it is not known if afr or someone else will be runing the jackals
next year. most likely someone else as things got dropped during decision process. he turned down free rent because he would
have not been able to recoup his outlay of salaries etc because the new owners were to get all ticket and concession money as well as advertising money.
tough to run a business when all your money goes out with no way tobring any in. although he has gotten a lot of money in,
without paying much out doesn't help his case.

This whole thing sucked. The county basically went against their protocol. This stupid thing should have been on an auction. Plus i'm not entirely convinced that the former GM didn't do something to help sabotage Afr. There was a time that Afr had a day to pay and everything would go away. He said that he sent the money in and one of the banks around here he had an account. Said money was taken out. All they would have to do is trace it on bank computer. Then after he was notified of not paying he flew down, went to go pay and they wouldn't let him.

But then somehow arena mortgage bought, bankruptcy filed.

It just seems to me a lot of questions werent answered. Afr may have had a legit case. The court crap took a whole different direction.

Anyway, I would bet a lot of cash that Afr folds the team or relocates. He sure as hell won't sell it to that guy.

OT for a sec but EC is getting baseball? Wow, never saw that coming.

 

[jconnor]

Re: Elmira College - 2012/2013

Finally, the most frustrating Season since I've been following EC has come to an end. First game of the season 9-0 loss, last game of the season, 9-1 loss, not much improvement there.
We can only hope that these freshmen hang in there and return next year. I also hope that there is a STUD of a goaltender out there that we can recruit.
I don't golf, so it's time to get the camping stuff around