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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Obama is very pro-business, but the GOP is a wind-up toy and they can't adjust their rhetoric. They also incite / exploit a broad swath of voters who simply don't check the facts. The markets do better under Democrats. The government grows more under Republicans. But don't unsettle them with data, the narrative that the Democratic party is anti-business is too irresistible to set aside just because of facts.
It works the other way, too. Obama has continued every significant Dubya surveillance and intelligence gathering policy except torture (and the latter is a case of "that we know of"). But don't unsettle us with facts, the narrative that the Republicans are the party of the Intelligence Industrial Complex is too gratifying.
There are significant difference in the parties, and there is no way I would jump from the frying pan of the Dems to the fire of the GOP. But the really serious rot is the buying of political office by big money, and that infection runs to the root of both parties. And the only intellectually serious third party movement believes in surrendering even more power to big money! The mind boggles.
Obama is very pro-business, but the GOP is a wind-up toy and they can't adjust their rhetoric. They also incite / exploit a broad swath of voters who simply don't check the facts. The markets do better under Democrats. The government grows more under Republicans. But don't unsettle them with data, the narrative that the Democratic party is anti-business is too irresistible to set aside just because of facts.
It works the other way, too. Obama has continued every significant Dubya surveillance and intelligence gathering policy except torture (and the latter is a case of "that we know of"). But don't unsettle us with facts, the narrative that the Republicans are the party of the Intelligence Industrial Complex is too gratifying.
There are significant difference in the parties, and there is no way I would jump from the frying pan of the Dems to the fire of the GOP. But the really serious rot is the buying of political office by big money, and that infection runs to the root of both parties. And the only intellectually serious third party movement believes in surrendering even more power to big money! The mind boggles.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
As their resident spokesman, you must explain about the bad ties sometime. I understood it in the 70's when everybody had bad ties, but I watch their convention every four years and the two absolute certainties are that the audience will be 98% composed of guys who look like one of these three, and they will all be wearing ludicrously hideous ties:
That's good.
As their resident spokesman, you must explain about the bad ties sometime. I understood it in the 70's when everybody had bad ties, but I watch their convention every four years and the two absolute certainties are that the audience will be 98% composed of guys who look like one of these three, and they will all be wearing ludicrously hideous ties:
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Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Many of those Democratic deep thinkers were on display Tuesday night, wailing about the "end of democracy" and blaming Barrett's defeat on the Citizens United decision. If that decision had gone the other way, Walker wouldn't have raised a penny less. And informing us that the "real" winner was His Introubleness.
You have heard the phrase "yellow dog Democrats," right?
Many of those Democratic deep thinkers were on display Tuesday night, wailing about the "end of democracy" and blaming Barrett's defeat on the Citizens United decision. If that decision had gone the other way, Walker wouldn't have raised a penny less. And informing us that the "real" winner was His Introubleness.
You have heard the phrase "yellow dog Democrats," right?
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
A line from a Frank Zappa song??
A line from a Frank Zappa song??
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
What, like we're going to let someone DICTATE to us what kind of ties to wear??? Is that some evil government conspiracy? Who's going to police the fashion police? If we consolidate that kind of power in government, is anyone truly free anymore? The founders would be appalled that in this day and age...
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Obummer is not pro-business. He is pro-unions and only supports businesses enjoyed by those that give him money towards his re-election. If he were pro-business, he'd be for ANY American business regardless of their circumstances. He'd bless the ENTIRE pipeline. He wouldn't look to shut down refineries and coal power plants. He'd bless companies that look to come to the country and want to allow open hiring (i.e. non-closed-union). He wouldn't put forth legislation that forces health care providers out of business due to a disagreement in semantics.
Clinton being pro-business? That's why he basically ghosted cities across the country (such as Plattsburgh and Rome NY), right? The dot-com boom happened by coincidence of the internet being marketed. The economy could have grown with innovation like that under Herbert Hoover, for crying out loud.
And how about that Jimmy Carter growth. REAL spectacular.
There is absolutely NO difference between the democans you are trying to defend and the republicrats to which you claim that I (and others on here) belong. They are the same authoritarian bozos that just use different talking points to make you THINK they're preaching something different, when in all reality, they're not. The government grows under BOTH parties, whether constitutional or not, and every day we lose the few rights that remain. If you were to read the Declaration of Independence, specifically the grievances against King George III, you will find that you could air over HALF of those grievances against both Dubya AND Obummer.
Obummer is not pro-business. He is pro-unions and only supports businesses enjoyed by those that give him money towards his re-election. If he were pro-business, he'd be for ANY American business regardless of their circumstances. He'd bless the ENTIRE pipeline. He wouldn't look to shut down refineries and coal power plants. He'd bless companies that look to come to the country and want to allow open hiring (i.e. non-closed-union). He wouldn't put forth legislation that forces health care providers out of business due to a disagreement in semantics.
Clinton being pro-business? That's why he basically ghosted cities across the country (such as Plattsburgh and Rome NY), right? The dot-com boom happened by coincidence of the internet being marketed. The economy could have grown with innovation like that under Herbert Hoover, for crying out loud.
And how about that Jimmy Carter growth. REAL spectacular.
There is absolutely NO difference between the democans you are trying to defend and the republicrats to which you claim that I (and others on here) belong. They are the same authoritarian bozos that just use different talking points to make you THINK they're preaching something different, when in all reality, they're not. The government grows under BOTH parties, whether constitutional or not, and every day we lose the few rights that remain. If you were to read the Declaration of Independence, specifically the grievances against King George III, you will find that you could air over HALF of those grievances against both Dubya AND Obummer.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
It is what proud Democrats in Texas (and elsewhere) call themselves. It means they'd vote for a yellow dog before they'd vote for a Republican. These are low information voters who, notwithstanding Kepler's strenuous efforts to convince us otherwise, exist in huge numbers in the Democrat party.
The Frank Zappa line you may be thinking of is: "Charlotte the harlot, the girl we adore, the pride of the prairie, the cow punchers' wh*re."
A line from a Frank Zappa song??
It is what proud Democrats in Texas (and elsewhere) call themselves. It means they'd vote for a yellow dog before they'd vote for a Republican. These are low information voters who, notwithstanding Kepler's strenuous efforts to convince us otherwise, exist in huge numbers in the Democrat party.
The Frank Zappa line you may be thinking of is: "Charlotte the harlot, the girl we adore, the pride of the prairie, the cow punchers' wh*re."
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Priceless
Guest
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Serious question: Should a president support a business that outsources American jobs to Asia? Should a president support companies that cut corners and kill their employees (like, say, coal mining)? Since you say regardless of circumstances, should I assume the answer is "Yes."?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Should a President support a company that has made record profits and lobbies for anti-middle class tax policies, ships jobs overseas, and refuses to reinvest in America and instead spends it all destroying the environment in China?
Apparently the answer is a resounding YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He should.
Should a President support a company that has made record profits and lobbies for anti-middle class tax policies, ships jobs overseas, and refuses to reinvest in America and instead spends it all destroying the environment in China?
Apparently the answer is a resounding YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He should.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Liberal democrats. They're just like computers. Enter a few key characters, and a set of instructions tells them exactly what to do. I've heard this same crap from every single one I've talked to.
Liberal democrats. They're just like computers. Enter a few key characters, and a set of instructions tells them exactly what to do. I've heard this same crap from every single one I've talked to.
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Priceless
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FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
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*in white southern baptist minister voice* For only 65 cents a day, you can join the 700 club as we spread the word of God to all those around the world.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the barking moonbat equivalent of hitting for the cycle.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the barking moonbat equivalent of hitting for the cycle.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Should investors support a company that has lost over a trillion dollars of the investors' money in a single year, basically jails the investors into investing, and practically spits in the faces of the investors?
Apparently the answer is a resounding YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They should.
Should investors support a company that has lost over a trillion dollars of the investors' money in a single year, basically jails the investors into investing, and practically spits in the faces of the investors?
Apparently the answer is a resounding YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They should.
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