Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
I'm really glad you added that last part.
I'm really glad you added that last part.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
My first impression of the Romney story was that it was high school and in a very different time when gays were fair game for bullying. On the playgrounds I grew up on the "f" word was definitely the goto insult from kids with more muscles than brains. That certainly does not make it right, but you can't judge an earlier period's actions as if they fall on the modern spectrum of mores. Also: people grow up. People learn all sorts of ignorant stuff at their parents' knee that exposure to the world rids them of.
The thing that did bother me about it was his laughing dismissal of the story. He didn't do that forty years ago as an idiot teenager, he did it yesterday as a presidential candidate. That's just gross.
My first impression of the Romney story was that it was high school and in a very different time when gays were fair game for bullying. On the playgrounds I grew up on the "f" word was definitely the goto insult from kids with more muscles than brains. That certainly does not make it right, but you can't judge an earlier period's actions as if they fall on the modern spectrum of mores. Also: people grow up. People learn all sorts of ignorant stuff at their parents' knee that exposure to the world rids them of.
The thing that did bother me about it was his laughing dismissal of the story. He didn't do that forty years ago as an idiot teenager, he did it yesterday as a presidential candidate. That's just gross.
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Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
So His Cocainesnortingness' pals at the WaPo "coincidentally" release a story about Mitt's "bullying" the day after his views on gay marriage re-evolved (he had been unoquivically against it when he was running for the Illinois legislature). Plus, as a bonus, touches on "bullying," the new libtard cause du jour. And just to spice up the story a bit, the Post decides to include a quote (that wasn't a quote) from a guy who wasn't there and didn't learn about the incident until recently, that he thinks about it all the time.
And this is greeted with heavy breathing and eyebrow raising from the usual suspects, one of whom posted a piece from that grinning eel Paul Begala. Begala's like Goebbels, issuing press releases from the bunker on how well the war's going. Begala even finds it some sort of disqualification that Romney was a cheerleader in prep school (like Bush at Yale and Perry at A & M). High marks for being able to work in a Bush shot, but seriously, cheerleading?
For one thing, if this episode does not conclusively prove the MSM are in bed with His Dogmunchieness, then nothing, short of a front page box editorial on how they're slanting the news to advantage him will do it. I thought the breathless NYT story about McCain's "affair" was the bottom of the barrel, I was wrong.
I don't have to watch MSNBC to know how they've reacted to this "story." I can just imagine Maddow and Rev. "Skillets" working themselves into high dudgeon over this one. But I doubt many Americans with room temperature or better IQs will care much about high school sh*t. Especially the ones who are unemployed, underemployed or have just given up. We've all done or said something stupid or mean or childish when we were young (probably because we were children). And most of us wouldn't want to be judged by that behavior 30, 40 or 50 years later.
This story, IMO, doesn't have "legs." But the willingness of the WaPo to make stuff up to give the story a little more verve (a la Jayson Blair) and the obvious deliberate timing of the story to help His Evolvingness may become the story instead. Like CBS' last minute efforts to advantage Kerry by airing a story based on forged documents. Remember, producer Mary Mapes was in contact with the Kerry campaign on that one.
One thing's for sure: we ain't seen nothin' yet.
So His Cocainesnortingness' pals at the WaPo "coincidentally" release a story about Mitt's "bullying" the day after his views on gay marriage re-evolved (he had been unoquivically against it when he was running for the Illinois legislature). Plus, as a bonus, touches on "bullying," the new libtard cause du jour. And just to spice up the story a bit, the Post decides to include a quote (that wasn't a quote) from a guy who wasn't there and didn't learn about the incident until recently, that he thinks about it all the time.
And this is greeted with heavy breathing and eyebrow raising from the usual suspects, one of whom posted a piece from that grinning eel Paul Begala. Begala's like Goebbels, issuing press releases from the bunker on how well the war's going. Begala even finds it some sort of disqualification that Romney was a cheerleader in prep school (like Bush at Yale and Perry at A & M). High marks for being able to work in a Bush shot, but seriously, cheerleading?
For one thing, if this episode does not conclusively prove the MSM are in bed with His Dogmunchieness, then nothing, short of a front page box editorial on how they're slanting the news to advantage him will do it. I thought the breathless NYT story about McCain's "affair" was the bottom of the barrel, I was wrong.
I don't have to watch MSNBC to know how they've reacted to this "story." I can just imagine Maddow and Rev. "Skillets" working themselves into high dudgeon over this one. But I doubt many Americans with room temperature or better IQs will care much about high school sh*t. Especially the ones who are unemployed, underemployed or have just given up. We've all done or said something stupid or mean or childish when we were young (probably because we were children). And most of us wouldn't want to be judged by that behavior 30, 40 or 50 years later.
This story, IMO, doesn't have "legs." But the willingness of the WaPo to make stuff up to give the story a little more verve (a la Jayson Blair) and the obvious deliberate timing of the story to help His Evolvingness may become the story instead. Like CBS' last minute efforts to advantage Kerry by airing a story based on forged documents. Remember, producer Mary Mapes was in contact with the Kerry campaign on that one.
One thing's for sure: we ain't seen nothin' yet.
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Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
The lesson here is don't pass yourself off a Mr Clean when that's not the case. We've seen it time and time again with rigthies (Vitter, Craig, Ensign, Hyde, etc).
The lesson here is don't pass yourself off a Mr Clean when that's not the case. We've seen it time and time again with rigthies (Vitter, Craig, Ensign, Hyde, etc).
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Exactly. I'd even up it to disgusting.
Exactly. I'd even up it to disgusting.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Yup, gotta be something about this episode we can nail him with.
Yup, gotta be something about this episode we can nail him with.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Like the hall monitor in Funky Winkerbean, with the machine gun on his desk.
Like the hall monitor in Funky Winkerbean, with the machine gun on his desk.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Yeah, those are fair comparisons all right.
Yeah, those are fair comparisons all right.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Are you telling me it didn't bother you in the least? I'm asking that seriously -- if enough people tell me it didn't bother them, or if whether or not it bothered people seems to correlate 100% with their political leanings, then it could just be a case of seeing what you want to see.
That's not it. Or hey, maybe it is and I am completely biased.
Are you telling me it didn't bother you in the least? I'm asking that seriously -- if enough people tell me it didn't bother them, or if whether or not it bothered people seems to correlate 100% with their political leanings, then it could just be a case of seeing what you want to see.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Awwww...are those mean ol' Dems being too hard on Mittens? I hate to break this to you, but to paraphrase Rick Pitino: Mike Dukakis ain't walkin' thru that door. As I told one your fellow knucks', we're playing offense, not defense, so you may want to get used to it. Obama hasn't even started running the "Bain Capital outsourcing jobs to China" commericials yet, but rest assured they're coming.
Awwww...are those mean ol' Dems being too hard on Mittens? I hate to break this to you, but to paraphrase Rick Pitino: Mike Dukakis ain't walkin' thru that door. As I told one your fellow knucks', we're playing offense, not defense, so you may want to get used to it. Obama hasn't even started running the "Bain Capital outsourcing jobs to China" commericials yet, but rest assured they're coming.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Well, at least you admit the WaPo is part of His Oneness' campaign. We're making progress.
Awwww...are those mean ol' Dems being too hard on Mittens? I hate to break this to you, but to paraphrase Rick Pitino: Mike Dukakis ain't walkin' thru that door. As I told one your fellow knucks', we're playing offense, not defense, so you may want to get used to it. Obama hasn't even started running the "Bain Capital outsourcing jobs to China" commericials yet, but rest assured they're coming.
Well, at least you admit the WaPo is part of His Oneness' campaign. We're making progress.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Tears? Breast beating? Apologies for once being a teenager? I doubt any reaction would have met your exacting standards. Analogous, I think, to the reactions of victims' families to statements by their killers in court. There really isn't anything the murderer could say that would get a thumbs up. Same deal here.
Tears? Breast beating? Apologies for once being a teenager? I doubt any reaction would have met your exacting standards. Analogous, I think, to the reactions of victims' families to statements by their killers in court. There really isn't anything the murderer could say that would get a thumbs up. Same deal here.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
That and the 100M other people who are going to re-elect the Prez!
That and the 100M other people who are going to re-elect the Prez!
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
And some of them may only be voting once. We'll see.
And some of them may only be voting once. We'll see.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
I'm asking what your reaction was.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
I don't give a sh*t, at the top of my lungs. Either about what Romney did in prep school or his reaction to it. Surely a person of your erudition will agree that we really ought to focus on other, more pertinent issues. He's running for President of the United States, not president of the senior class.
I don't give a sh*t, at the top of my lungs. Either about what Romney did in prep school or his reaction to it. Surely a person of your erudition will agree that we really ought to focus on other, more pertinent issues. He's running for President of the United States, not president of the senior class.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Romney's damned either way. If he had owned up to it and tried to be honest about it, any apology or condemnation of youthful mistakes would've been derided as him just being an arrogant, insincere phony again; he's incapable of coming off as anything but.
Of course, Obama's sense of sincereity isn't exactly endearing either.
Romney's damned either way. If he had owned up to it and tried to be honest about it, any apology or condemnation of youthful mistakes would've been derided as him just being an arrogant, insincere phony again; he's incapable of coming off as anything but.
Of course, Obama's sense of sincereity isn't exactly endearing either.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
I definitely think we should focus on more pertinent things. Like I said, I thought his reaction was gross. It isn't going to make or break my vote, obviously.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
Romney's inability to appear sincere must be linked to something physiological, like Dubya's "smirk" that was really a facial tic. Even Romney's supporters seem to think he comes across as douchey, in that way that Kerry did.
Which suggests he may actually feel honestly bad about it in retrospect, and he just has such a strange affect disorder that it will never come across.
Romney's inability to appear sincere must be linked to something physiological, like Dubya's "smirk" that was really a facial tic. Even Romney's supporters seem to think he comes across as douchey, in that way that Kerry did.
Re: Elections 2012: You must choose the lesser of two weevils
to be honest, I never saw the Romney spin. And I don't see a need to, having long since decided I can't vote for Romney anyway, who was already skeezy before this outrageous scandal broke wide open, shocking the nation. I should probably have just stayed out of it.
to be honest, I never saw the Romney spin. And I don't see a need to, having long since decided I can't vote for Romney anyway, who was already skeezy before this outrageous scandal broke wide open, shocking the nation. I should probably have just stayed out of it.
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