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Elections 2012.2 - Congressional and Gubernatorial

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ScoobyDoo said:
John Kyl's the guy who thinks 90% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions. You could replace him with a house plant and have better results.
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You're attempted besmirchment of our fine outgoing Senator is unsuccessful.
 
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A digital billboard just north of where Franklin Ave crosses 35W exclaimed that people should remember to go vote on November 8th. I might have misread that, but I really don't think I did. That's a nice get our the vote campaign there.
 
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St. Clown said:
A digital billboard just north of where Franklin Ave crosses 35W exclaimed that people should remember to go vote on November 8th. I might have misread that, but I really don't think I did. That's a nice get our the vote campaign there.
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That's a poor neighborhood for the most part. Classic voter suppression.
 
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Not sure if Carmona's run a good race of Flake is a flake and that's why its close, but I think a state like AZ won't be doing a ton of ticket splitting. My take on the Senate anyway is the only states where the Prez and Senate races diverge is if there's some fatal flaw with a nominee.

So, with that in mind WI, OH, CT, VA, MT, MA, ND, AZ, and NE all revert to form. ME goes Indy obviously which leaves the flawed challengers.

NV - Berkeley out of money and under ethics investigation. I don't think Useless Harry Reid's vaunted operation can put her over the top as after 30 years in office clearly he had some favors he could call in. She doesn't have that luxury.

MO - Would have been a layup, but with a Libertarian on the ballot Romney voters don't have to vote Dem but can run to a 3rd party choice and not have to hold their nose while doing it instead of having to vote Akin or McCaskill.

IN - Two people you should never PO. 1) Women. 2) Old People. Angry Lugar voters, including Lugar himself, use odd "gift from God" comment to vote against Mourdoch under the guise of him being a basket case. Dems actually put up a viable alternative in Donnelly.

FL - Nelson can most likely survive a close Obama loss in Florida if that occurs. Anything more than an couple of points though and he'll be in trouble.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
That's a poor neighborhood for the most part. Classic voter suppression.
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The billboard is aimed for those driving 35W, not the neighborhood. I doubt it was intentional, more likely an honest mistake either made by the billboard company, the ad agency or the group paying for the ad space.
 
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Rover said:
Not sure if Carmona's run a good race of Flake is a flake and that's why its close, but I think a state like AZ won't be doing a ton of ticket splitting. My take on the Senate anyway is the only states where the Prez and Senate races diverge is if there's some fatal flaw with a nominee.

So, with that in mind WI, OH, CT, VA, MT, MA, ND, AZ, and NE all revert to form. ME goes Indy obviously which leaves the flawed challengers.

NV - Berkeley out of money and under ethics investigation. I don't think Useless Harry Reid's vaunted operation can put her over the top as after 30 years in office clearly he had some favors he could call in. She doesn't have that luxury.

MO - Would have been a layup, but with a Libertarian on the ballot Romney voters don't have to vote Dem but can run to a 3rd party choice and not have to hold their nose while doing it instead of having to vote Akin or McCaskill.

IN - Two people you should never PO. 1) Women. 2) Old People. Angry Lugar voters, including Lugar himself, use odd "gift from God" comment to vote against Mourdoch under the guise of him being a basket case. Dems actually put up a viable alternative in Donnelly.

FL - Nelson can most likely survive a close Obama loss in Florida if that occurs. Anything more than an couple of points though and he'll be in trouble.
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Carmona's got a good resume. And he's Latino.
 
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Old Pio said:
Carmona's got a good resume. And he's Latino.
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It wouldn't shock me if he beat Flake. He's been smart and played up his Republican connnections in the campaign, though of course those Republican connections now endorse Flake. Flake is one of the few true fiscal conservatives around, so a loss by him would be doubly unfortunate. Carmona has done his best to stay clear of Obama, at least publicly, even though he'd undoubtedly side with Obama on most issues.
 
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Bob Gray said:
It wouldn't shock me if he beat Flake. He's been smart and played up his Republican connnections in the campaign, though of course those Republican connections now endorse Flake. Flake is one of the few true fiscal conservatives around, so a loss by him would be doubly unfortunate. Carmona has done his best to stay clear of Obama, at least publicly, even though he'd undoubtedly side with Obama on most issues.
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A Republican Fiscal Conservative equals a guy who thinks he can balance the budget by slashing income taxes 20% across the board and cutting Big Bird and Planned Parenthood.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
A Republican Fiscal Conservative equals a guy who thinks he can balance the budget by slashing income taxes 20% across the board and cutting Big Bird and Planned Parenthood.
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If Romney wins, all the women in your life won't have much time to rush over to Planned Parenthood for their mammograms. Tell 'em to hurry.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
A Republican Fiscal Conservative equals a guy who thinks he can balance the budget by slashing income taxes 20% across the board and cutting Big Bird and Planned Parenthood.
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Yah, that's right. You know nothing about Flake.
 
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I'm a bit surprised Romney doesn't have more coattails in states he's going to win. For example, in Mass you might as well think Warren is on the ticket with Obama.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Yes, he's evil, eh? No need to know more than that.
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Nope.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2...s-for-pledges-before-he-was-against-them?lite
For those who can't watch clips online, the moderator asked, "Did you sign the Grover Norquist no-tax pledge?" Flake replied, "No." Asked if he would sign such a pledge, the congressman again said, "No." Flake added, "The only pledge I'd sign is a pledge to sign no more pledges."

That's a nice sentiment, of course, but there's a small problem: Flake is already listed as one of the 238 members of the current Congress who's already signed the pledge.

So, which is it? The congressman's spokesperson told The Hill that Flake signed an older version of Norquist's pledge, not the newest one, so technically, Flake wasn't exactly lying on statewide television four weeks before the election. "Jeff Flake has signed the Taxpayer Protection Pledge in the past, but the language of the pledge was changed last year," the spokesperson said.

OK, so which part of the new version of the pledge does Flake oppose? According to the spokesperson, the congressman doesn't like the language that pledges to "oppose any net reduction or elimination of deductions and credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates."

That might be more compelling if the identical language wasn't in the original pledge that Flake signed.

The congressman's spokesperson "was unable to explain the discrepancy." Imagine that.
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That's enough for me. Anyone who signs that pledge is NOT a fiscal conservative. The fact that he incorporated a Mitt Romney flip-flop this time around to try and get elected is the icing on the cake.
 
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You're using Rachael Maddow as an unbiased source for information, right?
 
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