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Election 2024: Dark Brandon to the Resucue!

Florida could be fun...Trump is still insulting DeSantis and with abortion on the ballot who knows how this goes.
 
Handyman said:
Florida could be fun...Trump is still insulting DeSantis and with abortion on the ballot who knows how this goes.
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Interesting to see indeed. Does it energize democrat voters? Or does it take away a reason for pro choice minded republican leaners to vote for a democrat?
 
ericredaxe said:
Interesting to see indeed. Does it energize democrat voters? Or does it take away a reason for pro choice minded republican leaners to vote for a democrat?
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I am under no illusion that Trump won't likely win...but if the Dems want a shot they have it right now. They should also go hard after Rick Scott...

Again I don't believe Flo(R)ida will go Blue...but the Dems are getting about as favorable a play as they can get. If (and I stress IF) Abortion Rights win...then the fact that Trump is bigly bragging he is why Roe went away can't be helpful. The fact that he refuses to be even cordial to Ronny "White Boots" DeSantis is probably not great either.

Its no secret that the GOP is very worried because a lot of states are looking to have ballot initiatives and they have no real counter. Add in a money crunch and it is even worse. According to the AP Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada and South Dakota are trying to advance various bills on Abortion Rights. That is a lot of fighting the GOP can't afford even if only a few get it on the ballot.
 
bronconick said:
So Florida's gonna vote 58% for pot, 61% for abortion rights and 53% for Trump.
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As happens in pretty much every red state with a ballot initiative/referendum. About 80% of the time the GOP wins the elections while the voters pick the "liberal" position on the referendum.
 
Handyman said:
I am under no illusion that Trump won't likely win...but if the Dems want a shot they have it right now. They should also go hard after Rick Scott...
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It's not as much about winning Florida, though that would be nice, it's more about forcing them to spend limited funds on a state they assumed safe, leaving less for the states actually in play.
 
French Rage said:
It's not as much about winning Florida, though that would be nice, it's more about forcing them to spend limited funds on a state they assumed safe, leaving less for the states actually in play.
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Agreed. Spread them as thin as possible.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Sounds like Arizona has enough signature to put abortion on the nov ballot
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Kari Lake is probably preparing her "rigged" argument cause what little chance she had just died. If I am an election worker in Maricopa County I am getting security cause it is going to get ugly.

But Biden has to be dancing because Trump needs to win Arizona to have a chance (amongst other states) and this just made it exponentially harder...assuming it actually happens of course.
 
French Rage said:
It's not as much about winning Florida, though that would be nice, it's more about forcing them to spend limited funds on a state they assumed safe, leaving less for the states actually in play.
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Extremely limited, because Lara is making sure all available money gets funneled to daddy in law.
 
Trump is going to attempt to "infrastructure week" AND/OR Obamacare Abortion by saying he will have a fix for it and then never stating what the fix is.
 
French Rage said:
It's not as much about winning Florida, though that would be nice, it's more about forcing them to spend limited funds on a state they assumed safe, leaving less for the states actually in play.
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This seems like a logical take (harm coming to one party or candidate or another party or candidate because they had to spend more time or $$$ in a state than originally expected and ended up neglecting somewhere else) but I wonder if there is evidence of a scholarly sort that backs it up. As I said, it makes sense and in this case we hope it to be true, but does it actually matter. Anyone wanna do the research for me? Is it even possible to empirically determine?
 
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