East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

[DartmouthIndian]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

I appreciate the humor - my Dad was a Yalie but not me - I am an ECAC guy but not unaware of their issues. And I havent been complaining that we didnt make the 16. I try to be level. When I saw Yale back in Dec I felt they were over-rated as a 1 and thought the smallish D would get crushed by a heavy forecheck. By season end I thought more highly of their D and goalie, while obviously recognizing that Offense and speed was the story. I just didnt expect it to end in this bizarre way. And mostly, I wanted to see 60 minutes of hockey, not 25.

 

[DartmouthIndian]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Wow. You started off strong, and now.....man, total moran. No, I didn't spell that wrong in this case:

Were those calls legit ?

To me it depends on the game, the score, the context, etc. If the number 1 seed is trailing, if the team is already mandown, if the play didnt cause injury or create or prevent a scoring chance, if I'm the ref at the other end of the ice and my partner is MUCH closer, if we've already had a stretch of calls, if it's a final 8 game, if I let a few calls on the other team pass, etc, I may not make ALL these calls. Not all these factors were in play on each call, but to me these refs were operating in a bubble.

 

[HoosierBBall_GopherHockey]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Were those calls legit ?

To me it depends on the game, the score, the context, etc. If the number 1 seed is trailing, if the team is already mandown, if the play didnt cause injury or create or prevent a scoring chance, if I'm the ref at the other end of the ice and my partner is MUCH closer, if we've already had a stretch of calls, if it's a final 8 game, if I let a few calls on the other team pass, etc, I may not make ALL these calls. Not all these factors were in play on each call, but to me these refs were operating in a bubble.

Honestly, I am not sure why you are in the red already. You really do seem like a respectable poster. You have made somewhat* legitmate questions about the refereeing, but the thing is, the refs have sucked all weekend, for everyone. Yale was outclassed by UMD, plain and simple. And this is coming from a Minnesota fan.

 

[DartmouthIndian]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Honestly, I am not sure why you are in the red already. You really do seem like a respectable poster. You have made somewhat* legitmate questions about the refereeing, but the thing is, the refs have sucked all weekend, for everyone. Yale was outclassed by UMD, plain and simple. And this is coming from a Minnesota fan.

Sad to say this is my saturday entertainment. And I have no idea what the red means ! I posted a lot years ago, then came back as a new registrant 2 days ago. Taking a darn beating here.

 

[The Rube]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Were those calls legit ?

To me it depends on the game, the score, the context, etc. If the number 1 seed is trailing, if the team is already mandown, if the play didnt cause injury or create or prevent a scoring chance, if I'm the ref at the other end of the ice and my partner is MUCH closer, if we've already had a stretch of calls, if it's a final 8 game, if I let a few calls on the other team pass, etc, I may not make ALL these calls. Not all these factors were in play on each call, but to me these refs were operating in a bubble.

I agree with Hoosier, and I have not sent red. But tUMD outplayed and outhustled Yale. Simple as that. I have no horses in this race. I have teams I hate, and teams I don't care about. And the teams I hate (well, actually only one team: UND) I won't cheer against just because.

And Yale was exposed from the get go. This is the 4th best team in a conference against a #1 seed overall? There was no fluke. tUMD played a more complete game than Yale. Period.

 

[HoosierBBall_GopherHockey]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

I agree with Hoosier, and I have not sent red. But tUMD outplayed and outhustled Yale. Simple as that. I have no horses in this race. I have teams I hate, and teams I don't care about. And the teams I hate (well, actually only one team: UND) I won't cheer against just because.

And Yale was exposed from the get go. This is the 4th best team in a conference against a #1 seed overall? There was no fluke. tUMD played a more complete game than Yale. Period.

Yes. DartmouthIndian, being in red means people hate you on this site. I have not given you red either, I guarantee you that. No reason to do so. Brenthoven communicates my thoughts exactly.

 

[Skeeterman]

After watching this game, it became apparent to me that probably half of the high school hockey teams in Minnesota could beat Yale.

 

[DutchFace]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Union was the best team there....0 for 9 on the PP. Unreal. Even just a lame 2 for 9 and we go to OT or even win in regulation. But this is what you see in hockey all the time - goalie plays well, with high confidence, and carries team.

I do have to say I was impressed with the UMD PP both days - especially when they were given the chance to bury Yale - it took 7 seconds to do so - that was impressive.

Overall, I didnt see a huge difference in the talent level of any of the 4 teams, Air Force included. They all seemed pretty equal. Its a game of skill, luck, and mostly emotion when you are dealing with young folks under a lot of pressure.

Good luck to UMD. I suspect you will be out early at the FF - no goalie stays hot after an 11 day break....

 

[Biddco]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

This is what worries me a lot.

There have been plenty of goalies to refute that statement as well.

However, anything can and will happen.


UMD has not lost back to back games this season. They have not been swept either. Pretty amazing stats right there.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

UMD has not lost back to back games this season. They have not been swept either. Pretty amazing stats right there.

They don't have to lose two in a row nor be swept to go out early. Just sayin.

Go UMD!

 

[Biddco]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

They don't have to lose two in a row nor be swept to go out early. Just sayin.

Go UMD!

I know... which means those stats are set in stone for the season

 

[UMDBulldogHockeyIsKing]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Good luck to UMD. I suspect you will be out early at the FF - no goalie stays hot after an 11 day break....

I take comfort in these two words: Adam Hauser.

 

[Runninwiththedogs]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Union was the best team there....0 for 9 on the PP. Unreal. Even just a lame 2 for 9 and we go to OT or even win in regulation. But this is what you see in hockey all the time - goalie plays well, with high confidence, and carries team.

I do have to say I was impressed with the UMD PP both days - especially when they were given the chance to bury Yale - it took 7 seconds to do so - that was impressive.

Overall, I didnt see a huge difference in the talent level of any of the 4 teams, Air Force included. They all seemed pretty equal. Its a game of skill, luck, and mostly emotion when you are dealing with young folks under a lot of pressure.

Good luck to UMD. I suspect you will be out early at the FF - no goalie stays hot after an 11 day break....

This is the most hilarious post ever! UNION was the best team there??? I'd actually say Union was the WORST team there.

I guess no one will win if no goalies stay hot after an 11 day break. Because NO ONE WINS IN THE PLAYOFFS WITHOUT A HOT GOALIE. But please, keep posting. I'm bored and need entertainment.

 

[DtownDogs]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Union was the best team there....0 for 9 on the PP. Unreal. Even just a lame 2 for 9 and we go to OT or even win in regulation. But this is what you see in hockey all the time - goalie plays well, with high confidence, and carries team.

I do have to say I was impressed with the UMD PP both days - especially when they were given the chance to bury Yale - it took 7 seconds to do so - that was impressive.

Overall, I didnt see a huge difference in the talent level of any of the 4 teams, Air Force included. They all seemed pretty equal. Its a game of skill, luck, and mostly emotion when you are dealing with young folks under a lot of pressure.

Good luck to UMD. I suspect you will be out early at the FF - no goalie stays hot after an 11 day break....

Going 0-9 on the PP apparently has nothing to do with the PK unit. Union didn't compete, they lost every loose puck battle, even on the PP. There was no puck movement on the PP and Union continued to try to feed the 1T in the box, and it wasn't there all game. Union got out worked, out coached, out skilled, and out played.

 

[JW Tigers]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Union was the best team there....0 for 9 on the PP. Unreal. Even just a lame 2 for 9 and we go to OT or even win in regulation. But this is what you see in hockey all the time - goalie plays well, with high confidence, and carries team.

I do have to say I was impressed with the UMD PP both days - especially when they were given the chance to bury Yale - it took 7 seconds to do so - that was impressive.

Overall, I didnt see a huge difference in the talent level of any of the 4 teams, Air Force included. They all seemed pretty equal. Its a game of skill, luck, and mostly emotion when you are dealing with young folks under a lot of pressure.

Good luck to UMD. I suspect you will be out early at the FF - no goalie stays hot after an 11 day break....

Looked to me like Union was the 4th best team in this region.

Really, congrats on a huge breakout year for Union, but let's be realistic.

 

[LTsatch]

Don't forget Agostino had to serve the penalty as well, effectively putting Yale two men down.

 

[Plante26]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Don't forget Agostino had to serve the penalty as well, effectively putting Yale two men down.

With that logic, Ylae was down more than a few players due to last year's graduates. It was 5x4.....simple math. (c)ScoobyDoo

I figured ECAC schools would at least have intelligent fan bases, if nothing else.

 

[Runninwiththedogs]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

Don't forget Agostino had to serve the penalty as well, effectively putting Yale two men down.

Well they could have picked someone else.

Don't forget, Cahill played professional hockey, so your whole season should be forfeited.

 

[LTsatch]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

So much for winning with class, hope to see a DU-UNH final.

 

[Runninwiththedogs]

Re: East Regional - 3/25 and 3/26 - UMD, Yale, Union and Air Force

So much for winning with class, hope to see a DU-UNH final.

No one would be ragging on Yale fans this badly if they had not been so braggy earlier in the year. Constantly crowing about your team? Be prepared to eat crow. That's what happens.