Dump Term 2 Part 4: Twilight of the Derps

[Kepler]

Threatening to bomb a desalinization plant is a crime against humanity. For real. Not hyperbole. Civilian infrastructure with no military function and with megadeaths if compromised.

To give an idea of where we are now, the Nazis quite explicitly never did that. The high command was criticized heavily for it and they wrote extensively about why they would not: (1) it was barbaric (I know) and (2) they thought if they did the Allies would exterminate the German people in retaliation for stepping over the final line of humanity (I know).)

Dump is now apodictically a comparison that slanders the Nazis.

Spoiler: Ahem

(Please don't ask about Dresden and Hiroshima. If it makes you feel any better, Russia and Japan also showed zero restraint.)

 

[LynahFan]

Threatening to bomb a desalinization plant is a crime against humanity. For real. Not hyperbole. Civilian infrastructure with no military function and with megadeaths if compromised.

To give an idea of where we are now, the Nazis quite explicitly never did that. The high command was criticized heavily for it and they wrote extensively about why they would not: (1) it was barbaric (I know) and (2) they thought if they did the Allies would exterminate the German people in retaliation for stepping over the final line of humanity (I know).)

Dump is now apodictically a comparison that slanders the Nazis.

Spoiler: Ahem

(Please don't ask about Dresden and Hiroshima. If it makes you feel any better, Russia and Japan also showed zero restraint.)

Weeelllll, they did send around 12,000 V1s and V2s into England, knowing that it was a statistical certainty that more civilian structures/people would be hit than military. They really had no incentive to destroy civilian infrastructure on the continent - they wanted to take it over and incorporate it into the Reich instead.

 

[Kepler]

Weeelllll, they did send around 12,000 V1s and V2s into England, knowing that it was a statistical certainty that more civilian structures/people would be hit than military. They really had no incentive to destroy civilian infrastructure on the continent - they wanted to take it over and incorporate it into the Reich instead.

Fair, but they ostensibly tried to avoid civilian only structures. When they winged churches and shelters and schools they were not doing due diligence but they were not aiming for them. That's why I intentionally left Baghdad off our greatest hit list. While it's bullshit that we used precision to avoid populations (we used precision to target, not to avoid targets, there's a difference), it's fair that we did not go out of our way to target, say, Tehran University.

The Nazis also didn't want to make life worse for the "good" people (northern European non-Slavs) who they were convinced would admit they'd done them a solid when the dust settled. By all accounts, they were very unpleasantly surprised when the English followed through on declaring war over Poland. Hitler thought that was just typical Brit posturing to claim the moral high ground while being ruthless.

I am in no way saying the Nazis were not monsters. Their monstrosity consisted in drawing a Venn diagram on the universe of humanity and declaring IN and OUT. The US didn't do that -- we said everybody's human but meh bombing humans is part of war (no olde tyme aristo code). The Japanese did it, their IN circle was just the Japanese. And Dump... well, his circle is just him.

 

[psych]

Fair, but they ostensibly tried to avoid civilian only structures. When they winged churches and shelters and schools they were not doing due diligence but they were not aiming for them. That's why I intentionally left Baghdad off our greatest hit list. While it's bullshit that we used precision to avoid populations (we used precision to target, not to avoid targets, there's a difference), it's fair that we did not go out of our way to target, say, Tehran University.

The Nazis also didn't want to make life worse for the "good" people (northern European non-Slavs) who they were convinced would admit they'd done them a solid when the dust settled. By all accounts, they were very unpleasantly surprised when the English followed through on declaring war over Poland. Hitler thought that was just typical Brit posturing to claim the moral high ground while being ruthless.

I am in no way saying the Nazis were not monsters. Their monstrosity consisted in drawing a Venn diagram on the universe of humanity and declaring IN and OUT. The US didn't do that -- we said everybody's human but meh bombing humans is part of war (no olde tyme aristo code). The Japanese did it, their IN circle was just the Japanese. And Dump... well, his circle is just him.

I think Ivanka is in that circle. I think the only thing left we don’t know is that Trump diddled her. And he’s willing to blow up the whole world so we don’t find out.
And that’s why Kamala Harris and the Democrats suck so bad. They don’t have what it takes to set the world on fire for lower grocery and gas prices! Trump 2028, mothafuckas!

 

[walrus]

Do not do that.

(I just did that.)

I haven't looked but I'm sure I'm screwed, unlike some of you I won't live long enough to get it back(assuming it ever comes back)

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

I haven't looked but I'm sure I'm screwed, unlike some of you I won't live long enough to get it back(assuming it ever comes back)

I am 10 years from being able to retire.... I guess that goalpost may be moving. Of course, if RepubliKKKans have their way, my job in health care would be gone and I would have to work until I die.

 

[Kepler]

I haven't looked but I'm sure I'm screwed, unlike some of you I won't live long enough to get it back(assuming it ever comes back)

Bright side: fewer years of poverty!

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I am 10 years from being able to retire.... I guess that goalpost may be moving. Of course, if RepubliKKKans have their way, my job in health care would be gone and I would have to work until I die.

haha, a job?? in this economy?

I honestly just don't care much anymore. I'm not doing anything reckless, I'm not touching retirement money, I'm not spending stupidly .

but after two years of not being able to get a job despite 20 years of work exp, much of it at a Fortune 5 - I just don't care as much anymore. The second half of my life is likely to be a much lesser quality than the first half. I'll never own real estate again. I may never be employed again. The world is going to be a worse place because we had people making decisions for us that were never going to be around to feel the effects. I find myself worrying less about the future now, becuase I think it likely sucks no matter what I do.

and the more I think about the show Paradise, I have a feeling I know what the third and final season's lesson will be, and many people are not going to like it.