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Dr. Clayton Forrester's Science Roundup

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Very cool that our own Dr. Wildcard made The New Yorker. Dec 22 & 29 issue, p.62.
 
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Well, I'll concede that. But since I don't receive the new yorker... I'm not sure who Dr wildcard was referring to.
 
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Yeah, I didn't mean to come off as a smartazz, dzmn. The New Yorker has great comics. On page 62 of the Dec 22 issue they have a comic that shows a Dr. telling his patient that it may be his confirmation bias leading him to tell his patient he is sick. The reference to Dr. Wildcard in my post was to Wisconsin Wildcard, who recommended a book on this site addressed primarily to cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. It is a very good read, and the subject has also been brought up here in the context of many discussions on religious and political views. I guess it was a bit of an insider joke, but I think those who are familiar with WW's posts and who saw the comic would be able to connect. But I should have explained it better.
 
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burd said:
Yeah, I didn't mean to come off as a smartazz, dzmn. The New Yorker has great comics. On page 62 of the Dec 22 issue they have a comic that shows a Dr. telling his patient that it may be his confirmation bias leading him to tell his patient he is sick. The reference to Dr. Wildcard in my post was to Wisconsin Wildcard, who recommended a book on this site addressed primarily to cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. It is a very good read, and the subject has also been brought up here in the context of many discussions on religious and political views. I guess it was a bit of an insider joke, but I think those who are familiar with WW's posts and who saw the comic would be able to connect. But I should have explained it better.
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:)

You didn't come off as a smart ***. I thought it was just standard message board ribbing.

Also, I can't believe I didn't make the wildcard connection. :o
 
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burd said:
recommended a book on this site addressed primarily to cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. It is a very good read, and the subject has also been brought up here in the context of many discussions on religious and political views.
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The first section of Daniel Kahneman's book Thinking Fast and Slow (the "fast thinking" part) is also superb on those subjects, once you get past his use of the word "heuristics" as a term for "convenient mental shortcuts based on life experience."

Parts of the book even discuss readings they take on things like pupil dilation, which indicate our subconscious is responding to cues from the environment even when we are unaware of it.
 
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I have debates with the organic crowd, and someone tried to tell me that the rise of certain disease rates is correlated with the rise of GMOs. It's been awhile since General Psychology, but the first thing I learned in that class was that correlation does not mean causation.
 
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I have debates with the organic crowd, and someone tried to tell me that the rise of certain disease rates is correlated with the rise of GMOs. It's been awhile since General Psychology, but the first thing I learned in that class was that correlation does not mean causation.
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Maybe this will help point out the absurdity.
http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html

GMOs are a topic I find interesting but know painfully little about. Steve Novella talks about it frequently on his blog and I have found it an approachable and well reasoned discussion.
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/ A general link but a simple search can bring up the more recent articles.
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
Maybe this will help point out the absurdity.
http://boingboing.net/2013/01/01/correlation-between-autism-dia.html

GMOs are a topic I find interesting but know painfully little about. Steve Novella talks about it frequently on his blog and I have found it an approachable and well reasoned discussion.
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/ A general link but a simple search can bring up the more recent articles.
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Oh, thank you. Found a few articles already. Thanks again.
 
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I have debates with the organic crowd, and someone tried to tell me that the rise of certain disease rates is correlated with the rise of GMOs. It's been awhile since General Psychology, but the first thing I learned in that class was that correlation does not mean causation.
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My favorite is when anti-GMO folks try to tell you that "they" put pesticides in the DNA. Um, no - I think you meant that they add genes that cause the cells to produce compounds that make the plants more pest resistant.
 
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LynahFan said:
My favorite is when anti-GMO folks try to tell you that "they" put pesticides in the DNA. Um, no - I think you meant that they add genes that cause the cells to produce compounds that make the plants more pest resistant.
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Other than Mark Bittman, Michael Pollan, and Nina Planck, there's no "debating" any of the organic crowd, because they don't want debate and discussion. They want to shriek, squeal, and yell "Monsatan" from the rooftops.
 
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