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Dr. Clayton Forrester's Science Roundup

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I'm geeked for the Orion program. It's a shame the next flight isn't until 2018. :(



The one thing I missed out on was making a trip to see a shuttle launch. By the time I had the means to, it was when the program was being shuttered and EVERYONE was trying to get to the launches.
 
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Kepler said:
It took a while, but we have reached the space program we should have had in 1977.
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Bleah. Count me out. Manned spaceflight is a colossal waste of money. We could do 100x the science (and retain the jobs, industrial benefits, and tech spinoffs) if we gave up that sci-fi nonsense and focused exclusively on unmanned missions.
 
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LynahFan said:
Bleah. Count me out. Manned spaceflight is a colossal waste of money. We could do 100x the science (and retain the jobs, industrial benefits, and tech spinoffs) if we gave up that sci-fi nonsense and focused exclusively on unmanned missions.
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I'm glad the English, French, and Spaniards didn't feel that way 500 years ago.
 
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LynahFan said:
Bleah. Count me out. Manned spaceflight is a colossal waste of money. We could do 100x the science (and retain the jobs, industrial benefits, and tech spinoffs) if we gave up that sci-fi nonsense and focused exclusively on unmanned missions.
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1) It's not either/or.

2) The hype surrounding manned missions is the only thing that gets people to fund space exploration.

3) The only imperative that matters is to get the chimpanzees off this rock before the gorillas blow it up.
 
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joecct said:
The Martians won't like us either.
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"Ask me, then, if I believe in the spirit of the things as they were used, and I'll say yes. They're all here. All the things which had uses. All the mountains which had names. And we'll never be able to use them without feeling uncomfortable. And somehow the mountains will never sound right to us; we'll give them new names, but the old names are there, somewhere in time, and the mountains were shaped and seen under those names. The names we'll give to the canals and mountains and cities will fall like so much water on the back of a mallard. No matter how we touch Mars, we'll never touch it. And then we'll get mad at it, and you know what we'll do? We'll rip it up, rip the skin off, and change it to fit ourselves."
 
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Now THIS is a totally awesome discovery:

It's a stunning discovery: Electric eels don’t just “zap” their prey. They use their powers to remote-control them, too.....A new study published in the journal Science reveals the eels can “remote-control” their prey.

The electric eel is virtually blind, and they swim in murky waters. So they use their finely tuned electric senses to detect “echoes” from a pair of low-voltage pulses. Yes, like radar.....They then home in on their target, until they come within range.

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Experiments have shown that the eel has tuned its electric effect to trigger its prey’s nervous system. It hijacks the movement of every muscle in a fish’s body through mimicking the signals carried by its neural network.....This includes revealing the prey’s location (in the same way your arm would flex upward when touching a live wire) and smothering any reflex to run.
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That article carried a link to the Science article: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/346/6214/1231
 
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joecct said:
I'm glad the English, French, and Spaniards didn't feel that way 500 years ago.
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People had already been sailing for millennia by then. The technology of oceanic navigation had already been worked out to a much greater degree.

Let's leave "manned" space flight to the entrepreneurs and super-rich for now and concentrate on more practical applications of space flight like how to beam solar power from orbiting satellites to earth or how to mine the asteroids. ;)
 
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FreshFish said:
Let's leave "manned" space flight to the entrepreneurs and super-rich for now and concentrate on more practical applications of space flight like how to beam solar power from orbiting satellites to earth or how to mine the asteroids. ;)
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According to Star Trek, the future belongs to socialism, anyway.

I could not care in the least whether it's us, the Europeans, the Chinese or the North Koreans. I just want the 40-year stall to end. If that means the first city on Mars is New Beijing, so be it.
 
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FreshFish said:
People had already been sailing for millennia by then. The technology of oceanic navigation had already been worked out to a much greater degree.

Let's leave "manned" space flight to the entrepreneurs and super-rich for now and concentrate on more practical applications of space flight like how to beam solar power from orbiting satellites to earth or how to mine the asteroids. ;)
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Like the Hudson's Bay Company and the British East India Corporation? Bully!
 
Kepler said:
1) It's not either/or.
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Sure it is - if "we the people" (more on that in a minute) give NASA an extra dollar, they can either spend it on a manned program or an unmanned one. Despite what Democrats tell us, you can't spend the same dollar twice. The same applies to the last dollar in NASA's budget, and the one before that, and every other dollar in their budget.

2) The hype surrounding manned missions is the only thing that gets people to fund space exploration.
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People don't fund space exploration, Congress does. Find me one member who's ever been voted in or out for too strong or too weak support for manned or unmanned missions - that just does not happen.. This is truly an area where Congress can do what they want, consequence-free.

3) The only imperative that matters is to get the chimpanzees off this rock before the gorillas blow it up.
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People drastically underestimate the amount of resources it would take to colonize another world. If we had those sort of resources available, we wouldn't need to leave. How crappy does Earth have to get so that *Mars* starts to look good? I mean, you don't see Billy Joel cruising for chicks at an Idaho county fair, right? We already have the belle of the ball - it ain't getting any better than this.
 
FreshFish said:
Let's leave "manned" space flight to the entrepreneurs and super-rich for now and concentrate on more practical applications of space flight like how to beam solar power from orbiting satellites to earth or how to mine the asteroids. ;)
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Screw that, mine the hell out of the moon. Stupid thing is trying to leave anyway.
 
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Natural skyshow this weekend: Geminid meteor shower.

A major meteor shower will ignite the night sky over the weekend — providing one of the most spectacular shooting star displays of the year.

Dubbed the Geminids, the annual interstellar light show began Dec. 4 and is expected to hit its peak viewing time Saturday and Sunday night around 9 p.m EST, according to NASA.
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“You will be able to see 60 to 80 per hour with the naked eye with a wide expanse of sky in a rural area,” astronomer Bob Berman said in a press release. “Cities will only be able to see one or two per hour.”

Some of the best spots to see the Geminids will be across the Eastern Seaboard as a high pressure system moves across the region, Accuweather reports. The Midwest and southern Southwest will also see clear skies.
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