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Diet and Exercise 2011: Better Than This.

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That is the hard part with struggles with food. Because you HAVE to eat to live. You will get there Bob, I know it!
I know! Moderation is a weird place for me to be, but over the past year, I've actually learned how to enjoy food for the first time. Not just mindlessly shove it down my throat, or stay at arm's length from it...
CSA is a great first step. I love getting veggies I have never had and trying to figure out how to make something tastey out of them (plus I love getting local tastey veggies I love!)

I would say a year ago I was probably heading more towards becoming a vegitarian, not so much because I didnt want to eat meat, but especially beef it was more on how they were raised commerically. But with the access to affordable grassfed beef (and other meats) that concern has been taken care of.

I think bottom line, eat real food.

If you ever have any questions let me know. And if you are going to sign up for a CSA i would do it now, they sell out alot sooner than you think.
Yes, eat real food. All that fat free junk did for me was make me go hungry.

As for CSA, I don't belong to one of those, but I pick up a box of random produce every so often from a local farm, and then I figure out how to use it. The carrots I buy from this farm are simply delightful...
I couldn't agree with this more.

For the most part, oatmeal, fresh fruit, and yogurt* are the pillars of my diet. If they're wrong, then I don't want to be right.

*and not that "Light and Fit" crap, either. I mean real, actual yogurt. Usually plain low-fat or non-fat, but sometimes a plain Greek style. I cut down on sugar by buying plain and adding my own fruit and such to it.
I just started with the greek yogurt and I love it already. Even the Dannon plain full-fat yogurt wasn't satisfying me as much as the Greek non-fat is. And what I especially like about the Greek yogurt, other than the extra protein, is that the ingredient list is remarkably short.
 
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I couldn't agree with this more.

For the most part, oatmeal, fresh fruit, and yogurt* are the pillars of my diet. If they're wrong, then I don't want to be right.

*and not that "Light and Fit" crap, either. I mean real, actual yogurt. Usually plain low-fat or non-fat, but sometimes a plain Greek style. I cut down on sugar by buying plain and adding my own fruit and such to it.

mmm, oatmeal. I could eat oatmeal every day. And I usually do.

I have been eating greek yogurt and adding frozen peaches to it. It's ridiculous how satisfying that is. I also add frozen peaches to cottage cheese. Anything to inject fruit into my diet. I don't subscribe to the theory of "have fruit for dessert" because that's a crock. If I'm going to have dessert, I'm having dessert, dammit!

Quiz and I are both trying to cut down on processed foods. It's shocking what you can put into your body, the amount of chemicals and foods that aren't foods at all, but instead are created by man. I'm looking to join a co-op in Denver to get fresh meat and produce. We're also doing more shopping at Whole Foods for our fish and whatnot. We're still careful though, because even Whole Foods is not necessarily as pure as you might think. For more on the subject, I recommend reading "The Omnivores Dilema". You will never want McDonalds again. 27 ingredients in a McNugget?
 
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mmm, oatmeal. I could eat oatmeal every day. And I usually do.

I have been eating greek yogurt and adding frozen peaches to it. It's ridiculous how satisfying that is. I also add frozen peaches to cottage cheese. Anything to inject fruit into my diet. I don't subscribe to the theory of "have fruit for dessert" because that's a crock. If I'm going to have dessert, I'm having dessert, dammit!

I absolutely love oatmeal. I eat it at least once a day and have been doing so for about 15 years. I add some fruit (at least one kind, usually more than one), TVP, flax, and cinnamon. Yum! :)

****. I had not thought of putting my own fruit in yogurt. What an idiot I am. :(
 
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mmm, oatmeal. I could eat oatmeal every day. And I usually do.

I have been eating greek yogurt and adding frozen peaches to it. It's ridiculous how satisfying that is. I also add frozen peaches to cottage cheese. Anything to inject fruit into my diet. I don't subscribe to the theory of "have fruit for dessert" because that's a crock. If I'm going to have dessert, I'm having dessert, dammit!

Quiz and I are both trying to cut down on processed foods. It's shocking what you can put into your body, the amount of chemicals and foods that aren't foods at all, but instead are created by man. I'm looking to join a co-op in Denver to get fresh meat and produce. We're also doing more shopping at Whole Foods for our fish and whatnot. We're still careful though, because even Whole Foods is not necessarily as pure as you might think. For more on the subject, I recommend reading "The Omnivores Dilema". You will never want McDonalds again. 27 ingredients in a McNugget?

I do agree with this, but with a twist. If it's during the day and I want something sweet, then I'll reach for fruit. If it's after dinner and I'm legit hungry, I'll go for fruit then too, because if I'm too hungry and I try having dessert-dessert, it doesn't end well. But if I just want dessert, then dammit, I'm having a dessert.

Do any of you have advice to give for living with a spouse/significant other/etc who doesn't necessarily have the best eating habits? Like, how do you handle grocery shopping and meals?
 
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I do agree with this, but with a twist. If it's during the day and I want something sweet, then I'll reach for fruit. If it's after dinner and I'm legit hungry, I'll go for fruit then too, because if I'm too hungry and I try having dessert-dessert, it doesn't end well. But if I just want dessert, then dammit, I'm having a dessert.

Do any of you have advice to give for living with a spouse/significant other/etc who doesn't necessarily have the best eating habits? Like, how do you handle grocery shopping and meals?
Prior to living together, we ate what we wanted during the week and took turns cooking (depending on whose apartment we were in) on the weekends. Living together has presented some new challenges as what we both eat doesn't necessarily mesh. We try and plan dinners for the week at some point during the weekend. Lately, he has become more interested in eating healthier (brown rice instead of pasta, pork/chicken instead of beef, etc), so it's been a bit easier, but I definitely still miss things like cauliflower, making soups, spinach, etc. I do keep threatening to just make it for myself on a night when I'm making dinner for both of us, but that doesn't seem to have happened.

Is he not interested in eating healthy/improving his eating habits? Does he not like the food you've suggested? If not, maybe a compromise at first, start with every other night (Monday - your food, Tuesday - his food, etc.) and see if you can introduce him to things that he might like and just not know it? As someone who cooks dinner two times (once for my employers and once for us), I'd advise against it as I feel burnt out some nights by the time I get to our dinner and just throw pasta in a pot with some sauce.
 
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I do agree with this, but with a twist. If it's during the day and I want something sweet, then I'll reach for fruit. If it's after dinner and I'm legit hungry, I'll go for fruit then too, because if I'm too hungry and I try having dessert-dessert, it doesn't end well. But if I just want dessert, then dammit, I'm having a dessert.

Do any of you have advice to give for living with a spouse/significant other/etc who doesn't necessarily have the best eating habits? Like, how do you handle grocery shopping and meals?

While I learned how to cook some not so good things, give him two choices:

1) Eat what you cook.
2) cook whatever you want based on what we have. No take out or delivery, and no prepared dinners.

If you can swing a CSA, well, that will very much take care of 2.

Not nice, no doubt. But I assume that you want him around a LONG time- some things are not so nice.
 
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While I learned how to cook some not so good things, give him two choices:

1) Eat what you cook.
2) cook whatever you want based on what we have. No take out or delivery, and no prepared dinners.

If you can swing a TSA, well, that will very much take care of 2.

Not nice, no doubt. But I assume that you want him around a LONG time- some things are not so nice.
Living with my parents and being the nutritional gatekeeper for the past few years meant my parents learned to enjoy what I make, even though it didn't come out of a box. But instead of setting a hard line, I sat down with my parents and asked them what they liked, and I was able to put a healthy spin on some of their favorite dishes, such as macaroni and cheese, chicken, fish, frittatas, ratatouille, etc.

All that being said, I wish my mom was around to enjoy some of the stuff I'm making now.
 
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Thanks, guys.
He's made leaps and bounds of progress since I met him and since we've started living together, but I still kind of feel like there's a long way to go.
I also learned this: if I want him to eat a salad, then serve it. That hit me like a lightning bolt when I was making dinner last night. Salad is served at every meal in my family's house, and even my dad eats it. (My brother won't, but he's a whole different case...) If I start offering that at every meal, maybe we'll get somewhere. Heck, maybe I can convince him that french fries don't count as a vegetable. :rolleyes:
 
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So I'm in training to be an EMT and there are certain physical ability requirements that have to be met before you can get a job on an ambulance in most corps. I started going to the gym and have introduced salads to our dinners as well, but I need some help: the only time we can go to the gym is at 5:30 in the morning (our days are just ridiculous otherwise with work, we both are in class, hockey, etc., so we leave the house about 5:45 and workout for about an hour or so), but I have serious trouble getting up at that hour. We've been making an effort to be in bed between 10 and 11 (closer to 10), but I still am in deep sleep at 5:30 and it's a real demotivator.

Does anyone have any suggestions for training your body to get up at that hour?
 
Re: Diet and Exercise 2011: Better Than This.

So I'm in training to be an EMT and there are certain physical ability requirements that have to be met before you can get a job on an ambulance in most corps. I started going to the gym and have introduced salads to our dinners as well, but I need some help: the only time we can go to the gym is at 5:30 in the morning (our days are just ridiculous otherwise with work, we both are in class, hockey, etc., so we leave the house about 5:45 and workout for about an hour or so), but I have serious trouble getting up at that hour. We've been making an effort to be in bed between 10 and 11 (closer to 10), but I still am in deep sleep at 5:30 and it's a real demotivator.

Does anyone have any suggestions for training your body to get up at that hour?
One thing I do is put my alarm clock out of reach, so I have to get up to shut it off. Another thing is that I wear my gym clothes to bed so I don't have to worry about getting dressed.
 
Re: Diet and Exercise 2011: Better Than This.

So I'm in training to be an EMT and there are certain physical ability requirements that have to be met before you can get a job on an ambulance in most corps. I started going to the gym and have introduced salads to our dinners as well, but I need some help: the only time we can go to the gym is at 5:30 in the morning (our days are just ridiculous otherwise with work, we both are in class, hockey, etc., so we leave the house about 5:45 and workout for about an hour or so), but I have serious trouble getting up at that hour. We've been making an effort to be in bed between 10 and 11 (closer to 10), but I still am in deep sleep at 5:30 and it's a real demotivator.

Does anyone have any suggestions for training your body to get up at that hour?

Bob's suggestions are good, but the keyword is training. You're just going to have to keep at it and train your body to adapt to the new schedule.
Another thing that could help would be not sleeping in too much on off-days. Obviously you're not going to want to get up at 5:30 on Saturday morning, but try keeping it within 1-2 hours of your usual wake up call.
 
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We've been making an effort to be in bed between 10 and 11 (closer to 10), but I still am in deep sleep at 5:30 and it's a real demotivator.

Does anyone have any suggestions for training your body to get up at that hour?

Join the army, have somebody yell at you "Get your worthless ***** out of that rack!" and kick your bed. You'll be motivated in a split second, or pay for it. ;)
 
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So, I joined the local Y yesterday and had my orientation earlier this morning. I did a little bit of a workout and it felt great! I just have to get back into the swing of things to make it routine.

As for what the better half will eat... thankfully, I have a guy that'll eat just about anything, so trying to eat better is easy. As an aside, he needs to watch his fat intake since he had his gall bladder removed; I have to watch my fat/cholesterol/sodium intake as well as limit my intake of Vitamin K rich foods. Makes mealtimes a little harder sometimes. I haven't been doing as well lately, but I really need to get back to that; it'll only help me in the end.
 
Re: Diet and Exercise 2011: Better Than This.

Quiz and I are both trying to cut down on processed foods. It's shocking what you can put into your body, the amount of chemicals and foods that aren't foods at all, but instead are created by man. I'm looking to join a co-op in Denver to get fresh meat and produce. We're also doing more shopping at Whole Foods for our fish and whatnot. We're still careful though, because even Whole Foods is not necessarily as pure as you might think. For more on the subject, I recommend reading "The Omnivores Dilema". You will never want McDonalds again. 27 ingredients in a McNugget?
Yeah it is amazing what is food and what some things are called "food". Just read that taco bell's meat filling is only %36 meat. YikeS!

But eating out of a CSA and find local grass fed meat is to die for. And I love the relationship I have with my growers. When you calculate it all out the CSA is no more expensive and sometime cheaper than buying produce from the grocery store. It is just sometimes that initial outlay of cash is difficult to come up with. Which reminds me, I need to pay up one of mine (doing two this year, one on bi-weekly and one that delivers weekly to the house, now i just have to come up with a better meat system...).


I do agree with this, but with a twist. If it's during the day and I want something sweet, then I'll reach for fruit. If it's after dinner and I'm legit hungry, I'll go for fruit then too, because if I'm too hungry and I try having dessert-dessert, it doesn't end well. But if I just want dessert, then dammit, I'm having a dessert.

Do any of you have advice to give for living with a spouse/significant other/etc who doesn't necessarily have the best eating habits? Like, how do you handle grocery shopping and meals?
I went to a nutrional seminar over the weekend, were they made their plan on based on only the following. Foods that make you more or less healthy. But that doesnt mean from time to time you can't have one of the "unhealthy foods" having it once a week or whatever isnt going to kill you, it is the componding effect. And even worse, trying to "modify" recipes to make your favorites is never going to satify you. if you want ice cream or pizza, have it. Deal with the craving and move on.

Althought I am find as I eat cleaner, stuff like pizza really does not make me feel good at all. Which is sad in that i am saying good by to an old friend, but the energy i have, and how i feel and perform is not something i am willing to trade. Luckily i am still on speaking terms with ice cream.

When I was growing up my mom would make one meal, if someone in particular really didnt want whatever it was, there were free to make their own. we were too lazy to do that. You can go on that rule. Althought I think bob's solution of finding out what he likes and maybe finding more healthy ways to prepare it, and maybe getting him to try things here and there will open him up (and is probably better long term for your relationship). Ten years ago, the only veggies I ate were corn, peas, carrots and potatoes. Most of those are startches!!! Now I skip through the farmers market looking for new weird things to try and I am so excited about the fresh produce brought to me.

So give him time, slowly introduce him to stuff and I am sure he will find some of the joys in eating your way. The worst thing you can do is cram it down his throat. (and if you want to get really tricky make him think that eating healthy was all his idea!)

Living with my parents and being the nutritional gatekeeper for the past few years meant my parents learned to enjoy what I make, even though it didn't come out of a box. But instead of setting a hard line, I sat down with my parents and asked them what they liked, and I was able to put a healthy spin on some of their favorite dishes, such as macaroni and cheese, chicken, fish, frittatas, ratatouille, etc.

All that being said, I wish my mom was around to enjoy some of the stuff I'm making now.
I bet she is smiling down at you at how far you have come bob.

So I'm in training to be an EMT and there are certain physical ability requirements that have to be met before you can get a job on an ambulance in most corps. I started going to the gym and have introduced salads to our dinners as well, but I need some help: the only time we can go to the gym is at 5:30 in the morning (our days are just ridiculous otherwise with work, we both are in class, hockey, etc., so we leave the house about 5:45 and workout for about an hour or so), but I have serious trouble getting up at that hour. We've been making an effort to be in bed between 10 and 11 (closer to 10), but I still am in deep sleep at 5:30 and it's a real demotivator.

I hate to be the bad guy on the sleep police, but if you want to get up earlier you need to go to bed earlier. A very small percentage of the population can function on 6 hours of sleep. Most of us need somewhere between 7.5 and 9.5. Food choices can also effect the quality of your sleep and may impact how feel like when you get up at that hour.

I know its hard to try to manage prorities with school, work and etc. And when I am conflicted I let the gym go before sleep. I am not sure how you fix that since its an every day situation for you (where mind is dependant on workload) and if I do skip the gym, I make sure I still a walk in or something.
 
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Do any of you have advice to give for living with a spouse/significant other/etc who doesn't necessarily have the best eating habits? Like, how do you handle grocery shopping and meals?

I would try Bob suggestion first. If that doesn't work then Alfa's. Really try to make those work. And finally, and I have no idea how committed the relationship is so no offense intended, but sometimes people have to go. I've had to do this. It's cold but I figure I only go around once and I am not going to let people bring me down anymore. As a last resort I've let friends go because of this and even parts of my family too. And I am better off for it.

If you can swing a CSA, well, that will very much take care of 2.

I had to google what a CSA is! Never heard of them. I guess that is what living in the country does. Ha! :)


now i just have to come up with a better meat system...).

You could always just get rid of meat. Just a thought.



I went to a nutrional seminar over the weekend, were they made their plan on based on only the following. Foods that make you more or less healthy. But that doesnt mean from time to time you can't have one of the "unhealthy foods" having it once a week or whatever isnt going to kill you, it is the componding effect.

This I agree with and have followed for years. Sunday is my day to eat roughly one totally unhealthy thing. Usually it is a slice of cake/cookie/pie, etc. I am such a sucker for those.

And even worse, trying to "modify" recipes to make your favorites is never going to satify you. if you want ice cream or pizza, have it. Deal with the craving and move on.

This I don't agree with. I was a sucker for pizza. Years ago I ate it two - three times a week. Now I still eat is fairly often (maybe once every two weeks), but I make my own whole wheat crust. Sliced tomatoes (no sauce), garlic, spinach, and low fat fresh mozzarella. Maybe not the best but a hell of a lot better than take out and it keeps me satisfied.
 
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I would try Bob suggestion first. If that doesn't work then Alfa's. Really try to make those work. And finally, and I have no idea how committed the relationship is so no offense intended, but sometimes people have to go. I've had to do this. It's cold but I figure I only go around once and I am not going to let people bring me down anymore. As a last resort I've let friends go because of this and even parts of my family too. And I am better off for it.

You could always just get rid of meat. Just a thought.

This I agree with and have followed for years. Sunday is my day to eat roughly one totally unhealthy thing. Usually it is a slice of cake/cookie/pie, etc. I am such a sucker for those.



This I don't agree with. I was a sucker for pizza. Years ago I ate it two - three times a week. Now I still eat is fairly often (maybe once every two weeks), but I make my own whole wheat crust. Sliced tomatoes (no sauce), garlic, spinach, and low fat fresh mozzarella. Maybe not the best but a hell of a lot better than take out and it keeps me satisfied.

There are certain things you can successfully tweak, I agree. I do something very similar with pizza, and thankfully I never cared for meat on it. Though, there are other times where a sub just won't do and you have to go for whatever you're craving.
And, I'd say the relationship is pretty damn committed: we just moved two states away together, and there's a certain ring on a certain finger of my hand. ;)

So, I joined the local Y yesterday and had my orientation earlier this morning. I did a little bit of a workout and it felt great! I just have to get back into the swing of things to make it routine.

As for what the better half will eat... thankfully, I have a guy that'll eat just about anything, so trying to eat better is easy. As an aside, he needs to watch his fat intake since he had his gall bladder removed; I have to watch my fat/cholesterol/sodium intake as well as limit my intake of Vitamin K rich foods. Makes mealtimes a little harder sometimes. I haven't been doing as well lately, but I really need to get back to that; it'll only help me in the end.
Yay!
If you don't mind me asking, why vitamin K? And, what kind of foods are rich in that vitamin?
 
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There are certain things you can successfully tweak, I agree. I do something very similar with pizza, and thankfully I never cared for meat on it. Though, there are other times where a sub just won't do and you have to go for whatever you're craving.
And, I'd say the relationship is pretty damn committed: we just moved two states away together, and there's a certain ring on a certain finger of my hand. ;)


Yay!
If you don't mind me asking, why vitamin K? And, what kind of foods are rich in that vitamin?
I'm the same way about pizza, pasta, and eggs; I've never enjoyed meat with them, and I don't know why.

As for Vitamin K, it interferes with warfarin, which is a blood-thinner and stroke preventer. basically your dark, leafy greens are rich in that nutrient. Foods like kale, spinach, mustard and collard greens, etc.
 
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There are certain things you can successfully tweak, I agree. I do something very similar with pizza, and thankfully I never cared for meat on it. Though, there are other times where a sub just won't do and you have to go for whatever you're craving.
And, I'd say the relationship is pretty damn committed: we just moved two states away together, and there's a certain ring on a certain finger of my hand. ;)


Yay!
If you don't mind me asking, why vitamin K? And, what kind of foods are rich in that vitamin?

I'm the same way about pizza, pasta, and eggs; I've never enjoyed meat with them, and I don't know why.

As for Vitamin K, it interferes with warfarin, which is a blood-thinner and stroke preventer. basically your dark, leafy greens are rich in that nutrient. Foods like kale, spinach, mustard and collard greens, etc.

What Bob said. I'm on warfarin (brand name, Coumadin) due to the DVT/PE I encountered. Gotta thin out my blood. Must be too thick for Ohio. Never had these problems in Minnesota. :)
Anyway, the worst part about having to limit those foods is that I like them. Along with what Bob listed, I have to watch out for cabbage, some lettuces, broccoli, cauliflower, soy, chickpeas, grapefruit and cranberry juices, and probably a few other things I can't remember at this moment. I don't have to completely cut them out, but I have to be very aware of them. As long as I'm consistent with my intake, I should be okay.
 
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You could always just get rid of meat. Just a thought.

Nope. While I dont have a problem with people not eating meat. I am a meat eater. I had thought about ditching it for a while especially the red meat because of how the animals are treated, and all the crap they feed them. But now that I have access to grass fed beef and chicken, and local eggs there is no reason for me (other than if I wanted to save the animals, but not health wise reason) for me to not eat meat. Harder to find fresh fish in the midwest, and fish and pork in general it is harder to trace the source, but I mix up my animal proteins pretty evenly, sticking to the leaner cuts. I would hunt and kill my own bison if they dared to roam the suburbs of Chicago!

I think when people hear how I eat they picture me going to town on a 12oz filet or a pound of bacon. Generally the protien portion of my meal is between 4-8 oz, and then a whole heaping plate of veggies with some fat in there some how, either from the animal, olive oil, butter, avacado, nuts, etc.

The struggle I have is I travel alot for my job, so it can be difficult to make arrangements for delivery. And it is easier to find decent produce at the grocery store at a reasonable price, then going to whole paycheck, which as mentioned before not everything in there is exactly good for you either :/ .
 
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