Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

[Sloe Gin]

Re: Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

Brandon, you and Quiz should take a trip to Phx and ride some bikes and pick out the ones you like.

well good sir, I think that can be arranged. You tell me when, we will be there.

 

[winger]

Re: Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

Brandon, you and Quiz should take a trip to Phx and ride some bikes and pick out the ones you like.

Ohhhh is that where you are based. I will defaintly be there at some point for work again.

(And I am totally hiking Camelback, bummed I didnt last time).

 

[Dirty Bottles]

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Having never done a tri before, I can't comment on the running being easier after doing a bike leg on a tri-specific bike.

It's more the tube geometry that is drastically changed. If you compare the geometry charts on the same size bike...one for a tri bike and the other a standard road bike...it is the tube angles that will be very different. The position on a tri bike puts you much further forward over the front wheel, allowing you to create a more aero profile.

You can always buy a standard road bike, and then put aero bars and a forward-offset seatpost on it to try and replicate the tri position geometry. It wouldn't be the exact same, but close enough that it would allow you to use the same bike for two purposes...when you want to ride road, you can just take off the aero bars and swap back to your old seatpost.

Also, keep in mind that there are lots of "tri" bikes out there that have the standard road bike geometry (73 degree head tube). My Kestrol for example is really a road bike frame but it has forward seat post and tri cockpit.

Whether or not you really need the 78 vs 73 degree geometry I think gets back to fit and also how aggressively positioned you want to be. I have the flexibilty of a 2x4 and I enjoy doing long course stuff so a super agressive position wasn't important to me.

My wife had a road bike with aero bars but never ever felt comfortable. It was only after going to a true tri bike with a 78 degree geometry that she found a good fit.

Also, here's a good article that describes some of the key differences:

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/bikes/difference.shtml

 

[MissThundercat]

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One thing I've noticed since I made the committment to real/fresh/organic food: the obsession over calorie counting is fading away, along with needing to read the nutrition facts and ingredient lists on every thing I buy. Also noticed I'm happier, feeling more energetic, my appetite is heartier, and my palate is becoming more refined.

 

[nmupiccdiva]

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One thing I've noticed since I made the committment to real/fresh/organic food: the obsession over calorie counting is fading away, along with needing to read the nutrition facts and ingredient lists on every thing I buy. Also noticed I'm happier, feeling more energetic, my appetite is heartier, and my palate is becoming more refined.

This is great!

I'm actually on a push to remind myself of appropriate portion sizes and doing some mental math in my head to keep my calorie consumption at an appropriate level. When left to my own devices, I grossly overestimate serving sizes, so busting out the measuring devices has helped me both remember what is an accurate serving, and to keep tabs on how much I'm eating.
I have been reading labels a lot more, too, but more for a making sure I'm not eating something too chemically laden and fake. (My two weaknesses remain Kraft singles and Mac and Cheese, though...) It's making eating more of an adventure, though, that's for sure!

Any advice for what I should be doing diet-wise leading in to my race next weekend?

 

[ScottM]

Re: Diet and Exercise 2010, pt. 2: Never Going Back

One thing I've noticed since I made the committment to real/fresh/organic food: the obsession over calorie counting is fading away, along with needing to read the nutrition facts and ingredient lists on every thing I buy. Also noticed I'm happier, feeling more energetic, my appetite is heartier, and my palate is becoming more refined.

Heh. I picked up the Mayo Clinic Diet book last week. Not one to go for any specific "diet", I was pleasantly surprised. It focuses on behavioral changes more than some dedicated diet or calorie counting metric, and they talk about portion control, overall good eating habits, etc. They take the approach that most people can maintain a sustained weight loss of 1-2 pounds a week. It also discusses how to handle those who may not understand or support a change in diet, lifestyle or fitness regime. Turns out it was also edited by a guy I grew up with, even though he was a few years older than me.

 

[Patman]

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they banned olympic lifting at my gym... because some ugly 45 year old troll of a woman who hates loud noises claimed it could be a liability issue and some upper management woman for the contractor who operates the gym agreed.

My coach had been o-lifting there for 2.5 years before they decide it was a problem.

edit: btw, the every day staff are all female and cool with the lifting.

 

[bottomdweller]

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Figured if I'm ever going to make this work, I joined a gym (again) but this time I get 2 45 minute sessions with a trainer to show me what I need to be doing, and to give me direction on the days I don't have an appointment. Session 1 was today and my thighs are like jello.

 

[BUT09]

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I was an idiot tonight and decided to play hockey, because my ankle felt better- I was able to walk, and it only hurt if I moved it in certain directions.

Terrible idea. I think I hurt it worse, honestly. An opposing player fell on my leg in the crease, and I was on the ice for about a minute unable to stand because of the pain. Even after icing it (and a beer ), right now it hurts worse than it did when I was first injured.

 

[jmh]

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I don't want to say that everybody here told you so, but...

Hope you feel better soon.

 

[Sloe Gin]

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I was an idiot tonight and decided to play hockey, because my ankle felt better- I was able to walk, and it only hurt if I moved it in certain directions.

Terrible idea. I think I hurt it worse, honestly. An opposing player fell on my leg in the crease, and I was on the ice for about a minute unable to stand because of the pain. Even after icing it (and a beer ), right now it hurts worse than it did when I was first injured.

yeah, this is why when you ask for advice, you should listen to it.

Seriously, stay the hell off of it and feel better

 

[BUT09]

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I don't want to say that everybody here told you so, but...

yeah, this is why when you ask for advice, you should listen to it.

Can I use the "young and stupid" excuse? You're right, I absolutely should have listened to you guys.

(painful) lesson learned.

 

[goldy_331]

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Can I use the "young and stupid" excuse? You're right, I absolutely should have listened to you guys.

(painful) lesson learned.

Let's not go overboard here. Just 'cause Sloe Gin was right once doesn't mean you should always listen to him. The results of doing that could be even more painful.

 

[alfablue]

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This is great!

Any advice for what I should be doing diet-wise leading in to my race next weekend?

Not that your race is too long, but do make sure that you spend the week not eating things that cause you any gastric stress, if you know what I mean.

But I think the thing I've learned- don't cut eating since you are running less. You are *roughly* spending the week fuelling up. I've read that there's no real major point to carbing up- for a half marathon, you are not exactly stressing your body to do that. So more focus on foods that are good for reconstruction- protiens for muscles, vitamin c for ligaments, calcium for bones- etc. From what I'm reading, I think you are already doing that, so just don't change much.

You'll do great, by the way- I'm sure of it!

Oh, and if you find yourself being super emotional at the end- so be it. I was, both times. Moreso for the second one.

 

[ScottM]

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Can I use the "young and stupid" excuse? You're right, I absolutely should have listened to you guys.

(painful) lesson learned.

Seriously, if your pain today is more than the original injury, the ROM is less or the discoloration is the same or greater you should get it looked at again. If you had an existing sprain or tear you may have aggravated it. You may also want ask about an MRI this time. There's a reason pro teams put their guys on the DL for sprains for weeks at a time, "tough guy".

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Seriously, if your pain today is more than the original injury, the ROM is less or the discoloration is the same or greater you should get it looked at again. If you had an existing sprain or tear you may have aggravated it. You may also want ask about an MRI this time. There's a reason pro teams put their guys on the DL for sprains for weeks at a time, "tough guy".

Ankles are really weird too. I've sprained my ankle and was back to normal only a few days later, playing hockey even. My dad sprained his and it took him a good 6 weeks for the swelling to go down and the discoloration to come back to normal.

 

[Sloe Gin]

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Let's not go overboard here. Just 'cause Sloe Gin was right once doesn't mean you should always listen to him. The results of doing that could be even more painful.

this is accurate. However, when it comes to exercise, I generally know what I'm talking about.

 

[bostonewe]

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First day in 2 weeks that I haven't had any foot pain Almost decided that I should go for a run, but figured it might be good to have a few consecutive days free of foot pain before I go out and possibly reinjure it.

Pain may have been alleviated by the pair of Croc flip-flops given to me by tcbg's mom. They're pretty amazing...

 

[nmupiccdiva]

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First day in 2 weeks that I haven't had any foot pain Almost decided that I should go for a run, but figured it might be good to have a few consecutive days free of foot pain before I go out and possibly reinjure it.

Pain may have been alleviated by the pair of Croc flip-flops given to me by tcbg's mom. They're pretty amazing...

Good call!! What you could do, if you're really feeling like you need to do something, is go for a walk.

 

[jmh]

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Good call!! What you could do, if you're really feeling like you need to do something, is go for a walk.

I think 'diva is correct here. Don't push yourself too hard too soon. (See, e.g., the unfortunate example of BUT09 discussed earlier today.)