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Deparatment of Redundancy Department

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Not a redundancy, but incorrect usage: “No trespassing permitted after sunset” on a beach or playground etc.

Probably not what the person intends it to mean, because it implies that trespassing is permitted prior to sunset. What they probably intend it to mean is that trespassing is never permitted and that any presence on the playground after sunset is trespassing.

UncleRay” said:
But if there is American Dodgeball and Canadian Dodgeball, for example (think American football and football in the rest of the world) couldn't you have the American Dodgeball Association of America, the Canadian Dodgeball Association of America, the American Dodgeball Association of Canada, and the Canadian Dodgeball Association of Canada? Doesn't "American" modify "Dodgeball" and not "Association?"
Remember the “World League of American Football”?

duper said:
On a similar note, I am always a wee bit tweaked over people having 3 RBI's in a game. Why the "s?" Runs Batted Ins?

I don’t think that one’s so clear. “RBI” is used so pervasively that a lot of people think of it as the term itself and not as an abbreviation. If that’s the case, then RBIs is proper as the plural. It’s kind of awkward because unlike many compound nouns if you pluralize “run batted in” you don't pluralize the last term.

If the federal government started a second Federal Bureau of Investigation, would there then be two FBI or two FBIs?
 
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If the federal government started a second Federal Bureau of Investigation, would there then be two FBI or two FBIs?


Technically it would be FBsI.....just like from time to time you see a news story about a meeting of a group of states' top law enforcement officials described as the states' Attorneys General.
 
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Technically it would be FBsI.....just like from time to time you see a news story about a meeting of a group of states' top law enforcement officials described as the states' Attorneys General.
No, it definitely would not. Why would you include the last letter of a word in an acronym? It makes no sense. Attorneys General is the correct pluralization, but you still have a group of AGs.
 
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There are some cases where it could or could not be a redundancy, such as if I were to place a SSD drive into my computer. SSD could stand for Solid State Drive or Solid State Disk, depending on who you ask.
 
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Headline seen on someone else's paper on the train: "Homeless people lack a place to live"

Didn't catch the name of the paper, it would be great to post the actual link....
 
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not that this has anything to do with anything, but the mister and I get a kick out of stupid adjectives used by news people. poverty. no one lives in poverty. they live in "grinding" poverty.
 
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not that this has anything to do with anything, but the mister and I get a kick out of stupid adjectives used by news people. poverty. no one lives in poverty. they live in "grinding" poverty.


Poverty only afflicts poor people though. ;)
 
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We're going through enrollment for benefits for the upcoming (July-June) year right now at work. One of the new things being offered is a "Health Investment Plan" to allow us to participate in a Health Savings Account (which would help us for taxes). 9 out of 10 times that the Health Investment Plan is referenced, it's called a HIP Plan.

Super, super frustrating.
 
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No, it definitely would not. Why would you include the last letter of a word in an acronym? It makes no sense. Attorneys General is the correct pluralization, but you still have a group of AGs.
Exactly. Which is why they are RBI's.
 
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Or ANY time for the plural form. It is for possessive and contractions.
Actually, there are two exceptions which are covered at the link I posted. You do use the apostrophe for pluralizing letters (mind your p's and q's) and to pluralize a word that is self-referential (their example is, "There are 15 and's in that paragraph.")
 
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Actually, there are two exceptions which are covered at the link I posted. You do use the apostrophe for pluralizing letters (mind your p's and q's) and to pluralize a word that is self-referential (their example is, "There are 15 and's in that paragraph.")

I stand corrected. I forgot about those. :o
 
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the plural of sergeant major is sergeants major. the plural of lieutenant colonel is lieutenant colonels. huh?
 
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