Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Standing taller than the other, so you take a blindsided Matt Cooke head shot?
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Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
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riverchief1
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Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
I'd have to agree that there were more Lowell fans watching game one, pretty packed down at our end with smatterings elsewhere. Unfortunately Lowell's 3 student buses were scheduled to leave right after the game, did the same last Friday at the Garden. That took about 200 out of the mix right away. And for some reason, Lowell invited all the fans at the pregame event back to the Tsongas after game one where a viewing party was being held for those unable to come to Manchester in order to celebrate if Lowell won and watch the second game. Strange, we all paid to be here so why not just stay and watch the game instead of going back but don't know how many really left for that reason.
I'd have to agree that there were more Lowell fans watching game one, pretty packed down at our end with smatterings elsewhere. Unfortunately Lowell's 3 student buses were scheduled to leave right after the game, did the same last Friday at the Garden. That took about 200 out of the mix right away. And for some reason, Lowell invited all the fans at the pregame event back to the Tsongas after game one where a viewing party was being held for those unable to come to Manchester in order to celebrate if Lowell won and watch the second game. Strange, we all paid to be here so why not just stay and watch the game instead of going back but don't know how many really left for that reason.
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Then you get the UNH Pre-game party at Margarita's at 6PM when there's a 4:30 game going on, and you can't leave and go back, so that's a bummer...
Then you get the UNH Pre-game party at Margarita's at 6PM when there's a 4:30 game going on, and you can't leave and go back, so that's a bummer...
riverchief1
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Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
If you're going tonight, stop on by Murphy's, Lowell pregame starts at 3:30.
If you're going tonight, stop on by Murphy's, Lowell pregame starts at 3:30.
unh_hockey
pain is temporary pride is forever
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
I thought the talent level of both clubs was roughly on par with one another so it was interesting to see which system prevailed. UNH played solid just like they did when they had a good record and outshot, out chanced and outscored denver. Their PP looked like it had more movement than maybe in the past few months, and they got a goal or two out of it. Overall their game plan of getting pucks to nets seemed effective, especially when they pulled into the lead and kept pouring it on. Denver looked in it the first half, but between stupid penalties and a few goals, they let it go.
This isn't a UNH team with the talent 10 years ago, and I don't expect much so its nice to see a 5 spot against a good squad.
I thought the talent level of both clubs was roughly on par with one another so it was interesting to see which system prevailed. UNH played solid just like they did when they had a good record and outshot, out chanced and outscored denver. Their PP looked like it had more movement than maybe in the past few months, and they got a goal or two out of it. Overall their game plan of getting pucks to nets seemed effective, especially when they pulled into the lead and kept pouring it on. Denver looked in it the first half, but between stupid penalties and a few goals, they let it go.
This isn't a UNH team with the talent 10 years ago, and I don't expect much so its nice to see a 5 spot against a good squad.
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
You are so right about this 82.unh had a gritty, gutsy performance against these goons.
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
I could not get out of work early enough for commute north, so watched on TV. Will drive north this afternoon and pick up a ticket if a decent seat available; otherwise will watch in some bar willing to accommodate a hockey fan over bud-lite swilling squeakball fans.
That said, the ESPNU camera coverage was decent, with many replays of the Nick Shore blindside head shot on Goumas, which appeared to be intentional, as Shore lowered his shoulder and lifted up to make sure that he got Goumas in the head. Never saw the Downing head shot in the previous period.
The ESPNU announcers were awful, but the CCHA refs were absolutely horrendous, whether or not they should have been allowed to assess Shore a 5-minute major and game misconduct based on the replay. Have seen 5-minute majors awarded on ice without replays for much less serious infractions, even before the NCAA began an effort to reduce head shots a few years ago.
If Downing and/or Goumas cannot go, that will taint Lowell's trip to the FF should they win tonight, which is a shame, as this game should have been a great match up between first half and second half season teams.
I could not get out of work early enough for commute north, so watched on TV. Will drive north this afternoon and pick up a ticket if a decent seat available; otherwise will watch in some bar willing to accommodate a hockey fan over bud-lite swilling squeakball fans.
That said, the ESPNU camera coverage was decent, with many replays of the Nick Shore blindside head shot on Goumas, which appeared to be intentional, as Shore lowered his shoulder and lifted up to make sure that he got Goumas in the head. Never saw the Downing head shot in the previous period.
The ESPNU announcers were awful, but the CCHA refs were absolutely horrendous, whether or not they should have been allowed to assess Shore a 5-minute major and game misconduct based on the replay. Have seen 5-minute majors awarded on ice without replays for much less serious infractions, even before the NCAA began an effort to reduce head shots a few years ago.
If Downing and/or Goumas cannot go, that will taint Lowell's trip to the FF should they win tonight, which is a shame, as this game should have been a great match up between first half and second half season teams.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Not even close to being the same. Matt Cooke's shot was also 100% intended to cause pain.
Not even close to being the same. Matt Cooke's shot was also 100% intended to cause pain.
Yes, I agree, Matt Cooke's head shot was worse; he should have been expelled for life.
tangledupinblue
...andrevolutionintheair
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Have not been on for a long time. I'm not sure if I'm more pleased with the Cats win last night or the fact that mullet melrose was dead wrong ......AGAIN!
Have not been on for a long time. I'm not sure if I'm more pleased with the Cats win last night or the fact that mullet melrose was dead wrong ......AGAIN!
unhpuckfan2001
Local Fire Extinguisher
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Goumas and Downing confirmed as OUT for tonight. That hurts a lot.
Goumas and Downing confirmed as OUT for tonight. That hurts a lot.
tangledupinblue
...andrevolutionintheair
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Come on man get real ! I'm on my way to hell i guess. Even face off location has been reviewed in ncaa games. Furthermore, Dave Lassonde is a classy guy and i would not be surprised if he wants out after that show of unsportsmanlike. If that had been the other way would you be *****in' about the review? Get on the loser plane and get the ****out of here! (This is obviously a response to the du fan.)
Come on man get real ! I'm on my way to hell i guess. Even face off location has been reviewed in ncaa games. Furthermore, Dave Lassonde is a classy guy and i would not be surprised if he wants out after that show of unsportsmanlike. If that had been the other way would you be *****in' about the review? Get on the loser plane and get the ****out of here! (This is obviously a response to the du fan.)
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unhpuckfan2001
Local Fire Extinguisher
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
To whom are you responding?
To whom are you responding?
They can use replay to identify who should go to the box and with two guys in the ice named Shore, that may have been the case.
As for the goon squad comment earlier... if gwozdecky is utilizing his leading scorer in that role, then I think we have figured out why Denver is going home
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leswp1
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Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Because it cost 77 bucks per ticket, 5 arms and a leg to eat there and they ran out of food before the 2nd game on our side of the rink? Better to go somewhere else, get real food and relax? Left so we could get home before 3 AM? We stayed for part of the last game but bugged out after the 2nd. After sitting for an hour to go 3 miles to get off the highway (couldn't believe it) and missing all but 5 minutes of the 1st I didn't feel like sitting another hour trying to get to the highway to go home. I've been to conferences that had 300 people at the Raddison and sat 30 minutes to get out of the garage afterward. I figured the Manchvegas police would be no more useful at the end of the game than at the beginning.
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Where was the confirmation? Not saying don't believe you just looking for it question now who steps up?
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Denver was clearly targeting physical play at Downing and Goumas from the start of the game. I am not saying they were targeting dirty play, I have a hard time believing any College coaching staff would do that. I do believe that Denver had a game plan to get bodies on both Downing and Goumas to try and prevent those 2 from beating DU again, it is what I would do too, take away the other teams strength.
The 5 minute major was the right call. The problem is it was done all wrong. There was no penalty called on the play. Denver carried the puck down the ice before the play was blow dead. The hit was on the DU side of the red line and play was blown dead below the face off circle in the UNH D-zone. After the play was dead for an injured player then the officials got together and decided to call a penalty after the fact and used the major and game misconduct excuse to figure out who. That call happened because Goumas was on the ice trying to figure where he was maybe even out, not because the ref's thought it was a penalty. The crew that ref 'd the game was really bad and let it get out of control. It was obvious that game was going to get chippy, Denver was pushing the edge from the start, that is who they are this year. There were multiple uncalled fairly serious infractions in front of refs during the game by both teams. There should have been a steady parade of players (both teams) to the box early in the second to clean up a game already out of control by players retaliating because the refs weren't doing there job.
I however do not believe either Downing or Goumas hit would have changed do to a tighter call of the game. Both were just physical hockey plays. I don't believe the Goumas hit was done with malice. Did Shore intend to hit Goumas? YES. Did Shore intend to finish a hard open ice check? YES. Do both of those involve lowering a shoulder and following through? YES. Are either illegal if they don't happen to hit the head, instead either the shoulder or chest of a player? YES. It just happens Goumas is short enough and in a bang-bang play there was head contact that deserved a 5-minute major. But all really just unfortunate.
It is tough for UNH to go into tonight's game without both of there top scoring forwards and top 2 line centers. That will be 72 points this season (hopefully well enough to be) sitting in the stands. However in 5 goals last night the pair got the grand total of one second assist. That was a Downing assist on the TVR power play goal in the 2nd. Both would have been on the ice for that. Otherwise the other lines particularly the Thrush line with Silengo and Henrion did most of the damage. Thrush in particular was flying out there. The rest of the team will have to step up, injuries happen and now UNH will need to play a solid smart defensive game to move on even with both the top lines getting shuffled for tonight. I believe they can do it, just don't know if they will.
"losers make excuses winners go home and **** the prom queen."
Denver was clearly targeting physical play at Downing and Goumas from the start of the game. I am not saying they were targeting dirty play, I have a hard time believing any College coaching staff would do that. I do believe that Denver had a game plan to get bodies on both Downing and Goumas to try and prevent those 2 from beating DU again, it is what I would do too, take away the other teams strength.
The 5 minute major was the right call. The problem is it was done all wrong. There was no penalty called on the play. Denver carried the puck down the ice before the play was blow dead. The hit was on the DU side of the red line and play was blown dead below the face off circle in the UNH D-zone. After the play was dead for an injured player then the officials got together and decided to call a penalty after the fact and used the major and game misconduct excuse to figure out who. That call happened because Goumas was on the ice trying to figure where he was maybe even out, not because the ref's thought it was a penalty. The crew that ref 'd the game was really bad and let it get out of control. It was obvious that game was going to get chippy, Denver was pushing the edge from the start, that is who they are this year. There were multiple uncalled fairly serious infractions in front of refs during the game by both teams. There should have been a steady parade of players (both teams) to the box early in the second to clean up a game already out of control by players retaliating because the refs weren't doing there job.
I however do not believe either Downing or Goumas hit would have changed do to a tighter call of the game. Both were just physical hockey plays. I don't believe the Goumas hit was done with malice. Did Shore intend to hit Goumas? YES. Did Shore intend to finish a hard open ice check? YES. Do both of those involve lowering a shoulder and following through? YES. Are either illegal if they don't happen to hit the head, instead either the shoulder or chest of a player? YES. It just happens Goumas is short enough and in a bang-bang play there was head contact that deserved a 5-minute major. But all really just unfortunate.
It is tough for UNH to go into tonight's game without both of there top scoring forwards and top 2 line centers. That will be 72 points this season (hopefully well enough to be) sitting in the stands. However in 5 goals last night the pair got the grand total of one second assist. That was a Downing assist on the TVR power play goal in the 2nd. Both would have been on the ice for that. Otherwise the other lines particularly the Thrush line with Silengo and Henrion did most of the damage. Thrush in particular was flying out there. The rest of the team will have to step up, injuries happen and now UNH will need to play a solid smart defensive game to move on even with both the top lines getting shuffled for tonight. I believe they can do it, just don't know if they will.
"losers make excuses winners go home and **** the prom queen."
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Re: Denver vs New Hampshire 3/29 NCAA Northeast Regional
Obviously it helps Lowell, but I don't want a leg up like that.
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Obviously it helps Lowell, but I don't want a leg up like that.