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Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
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Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
So the candidate rolls back all the tax cuts and passes a wealth tax during the campaign?
So the candidate rolls back all the tax cuts and passes a wealth tax during the campaign?
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
Purity tests don't work though. Or, if you're going to impose that standard, you have to apply it to your own candidate as well. For example, Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill and for the wasteful F-35 fighter jet program. I'm sure he has his reasons but what's worse - giving a speech to Wall St or voting to approve hundreds of billions of dollars to a boondoggle?
Purity tests don't work though. Or, if you're going to impose that standard, you have to apply it to your own candidate as well. For example, Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill and for the wasteful F-35 fighter jet program. I'm sure he has his reasons but what's worse - giving a speech to Wall St or voting to approve hundreds of billions of dollars to a boondoggle?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
The candidate says: "This is specifically what I will do and how and why. If you want this elect me and a Congress that will do it, otherwise go suck it."
She does not say "If elected I will blah blah Main Street blah blah The Common Man blah blah Work Hard and Play by the Rules blah blah The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth."
The candidate says: "This is specifically what I will do and how and why. If you want this elect me and a Congress that will do it, otherwise go suck it."
She does not say "If elected I will blah blah Main Street blah blah The Common Man blah blah Work Hard and Play by the Rules blah blah The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth."
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
I thought that was your point, and I completely agree. Along with historical proof of commitment on specific issues.
I thought that was your point, and I completely agree. Along with historical proof of commitment on specific issues.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
Unfortunately, most Americans don't want to hear it that way.
Unfortunately, most Americans don't want to hear it that way.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
I think a lot of Americans are willing to listen at this point. Dump did not get elected solely because the right has bleach in their cerebral cortex. He (and Bernie, and to some extent Warren) appeals to people who realize the media, the corporations, the banks, and the pols are all lying all the time and just feathering their nests while the rest of us burn.
I believe a candidate could go a long way saying "You are going to hear a lot a familiar, comfortable, vague bullsh-t, like always. Well, how's that working out for you? Come with me if you want to live."
I think a lot of Americans are willing to listen at this point. Dump did not get elected solely because the right has bleach in their cerebral cortex. He (and Bernie, and to some extent Warren) appeals to people who realize the media, the corporations, the banks, and the pols are all lying all the time and just feathering their nests while the rest of us burn.
I believe a candidate could go a long way saying "You are going to hear a lot a familiar, comfortable, vague bullsh-t, like always. Well, how's that working out for you? Come with me if you want to live."
trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
Having a bad vote on background checks 28 years ago and then supporting them in present day is a lot better than being completely compromised by corporate/oligarch donors in present day. Also centrists have just as many if not more purity tests than their left counterparts.
Having a bad vote on background checks 28 years ago and then supporting them in present day is a lot better than being completely compromised by corporate/oligarch donors in present day. Also centrists have just as many if not more purity tests than their left counterparts.
D
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Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
I agree with this- the voters we need to concentrate on are the ones between dem and not voting.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Americans think of the “swing voter” as older whites swinging between voting GOP + Dem. I’m writing a series of essays recognizing the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/otherswingvoter?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#otherswingvoter</a>: people of color + young people swinging between voting Dem + not voting—and swinging elections, too. 1/<a href="https://t.co/MqzwHjd3mI">https://t.co/MqzwHjd3mI</a></p>— Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrIbram/status/1214571741600632836?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I agree with this- the voters we need to concentrate on are the ones between dem and not voting.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Americans think of the “swing voter” as older whites swinging between voting GOP + Dem. I’m writing a series of essays recognizing the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/otherswingvoter?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#otherswingvoter</a>: people of color + young people swinging between voting Dem + not voting—and swinging elections, too. 1/<a href="https://t.co/MqzwHjd3mI">https://t.co/MqzwHjd3mI</a></p>— Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrIbram/status/1214571741600632836?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
"senator warren has yet to offer compelling prove that she didn't offer oral sex to young men taking her classes!"
"vice president biden has never denied having relations with the former wife of his dead son"
...seeing the 'whip it' video for the first time in quite a while, that strikes mookie as a young republicans recruitment ad
"senator warren has yet to offer compelling prove that she didn't offer oral sex to young men taking her classes!"
"vice president biden has never denied having relations with the former wife of his dead son"
...seeing the 'whip it' video for the first time in quite a while, that strikes mookie as a young republicans recruitment ad
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
This is a prima facie ridiculous accusation. It would clearly have been young women.
This is a prima facie ridiculous accusation. It would clearly have been young women.
trixR4kids
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Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
Not according to Jacob Wohl
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
I'm holding out for somebody with integrity like John Stossel.
Not according to Jacob Wohl
I'm holding out for somebody with integrity like John Stossel.
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
That's why I liked Amy K calling out the "free college" dreams of some of the more hard-core left. It's a nice dream. But let's come up with a more realistic plan.
That's why I liked Amy K calling out the "free college" dreams of some of the more hard-core left. It's a nice dream. But let's come up with a more realistic plan.
D
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Mexico should pay for our college!
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
Don't be ridiculous...they're already paying for a wall.
Canada can cover our college costs...
Don't be ridiculous...they're already paying for a wall.
Canada can cover our college costs...
Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market
Yeah! They're down with the whole "universal" thing, or whatever!
Yeah! They're down with the whole "universal" thing, or whatever!
trixR4kids
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Free college wouldn’t even cost that much compared to a lot of the things our country needlessly pays for, such as endless wars.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Why is this so hard to understand? Or to understand that this would be effective stimulus instead of ineffective stimulus.
Spartanforlife4
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According to a study from Brown, the cost of the War in the Middle East was 6.4 trillion. That, plus the current 2 trillion dollar military refresh Trump just bragged about, would cover free college for roughly 175 years under Bernie’s legislation.
The money is there as long as it’s not spent chasing oil.
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