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Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

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ScoobyDoo said:
His tweet about Warren wasn't.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Senator <a href="https://twitter.com/ewarren?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EWarren</a> is the fiercest of fighters for middle class families. Her work in Washington, in Massachusetts, and on the campaign trail has made a real difference in people's lives. We needed her voice in this race, and we need her continued work in the Senate.</p>— Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235616060906205184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't find this very comforting. Sounds too boiler plate. She deserved better.
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She'd be a terrible VP choice for him. How about that?
 
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Props to Bernie. https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-san...-gets-plurality-coming-dem-convention-1490614

Senator Bernie Sanders vowed to drop out of the presidential race if former Vice President Joe Biden ends up with a plurality of pledged delegates heading into the Democratic convention in July.

Sanders made the remarks during an appearance on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show Wednesday night. The senator stayed in the race against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2016 despite having fewer delegates but said that a rules change after that election cycle makes the situation different this time. If he is left with fewer delegates than Biden at the end of this primary season, he plans to bow out of the race, insisting that using superdelegates to decide the nomination would be a mistake.

"If Biden walks into the convention, or at the end of the process, [and] has more votes than me, he's the winner," said Sanders, before confirming he would concede whether the lead was a majority or a plurality.

At the end of the 2016 primaries, Democratic convention rules allowed superdelegates to vote on the first ballot, which is no longer the case in 2020. Instead, a candidate who has a majority of at least 1,991 delegates would automatically win on the first ballot. However, if a candidate only had a plurality of votes, a second ballot could potentially be decided by superdelegates.

"I think it would be a real, real disaster for the Democratic party," said Sanders. "People would say 'the person who won the most votes didn't get selected.' Not a good idea."
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Either Biden or Sanders would need to pick, um, how should I say this?, somebody who looks a little more like the rest of America...

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joecct said:
Deval Patrick. The quid pro quo for the Clyburn endorsement.
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Deval Patrick is a fuk up. If we wanted someone terrible at their job to get the VP nod merely because they're black, lets go with Donna Brazile who's also female as an added bonus.
 
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aparch said:
I can't wait for Biden to name Obama as VP. Then after the inauguration, step down for unforeseen medical issues...
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SHHHHH! Dude, that's how we're gonna shove Hillary in through the back door! You weren't supposed to say that out loud! :mad:
 
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Rover said:
She's much more ideologically aligned with Sanders and the race isn't over but Bernie needs a quick recovery starting yesterday if he's going to pull even. Yes he could wait for Biden to do something stupid but he can't control that. He can make a case to Warren that its crunch time for their vision of the future. Saw just now that Sanders is blowing off a rally in Mississippi to campaign in Michigan, which is both smart and sort of a last stand.
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Problem is he needs more than to "pull even" because he is likely to get trounced in upcoming battles. The amount of delegates Biden is going to pick up in Georgia, Mississippi and Florida is going to really kill Bernie.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sen. Mitt Romney: "There's no question but that the appearance of looking into Burisma and Hunter Biden appears political and I think people are tired of these kinds of political investigations." <a href="https://t.co/FDouvWgujc">pic.twitter.com/FDouvWgujc</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1235667651373838336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Handyman said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sen. Mitt Romney: "There's no question but that the appearance of looking into Burisma and Hunter Biden appears political and I think people are tired of these kinds of political investigations." <a href="https://t.co/FDouvWgujc">pic.twitter.com/FDouvWgujc</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1235667651373838336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Well I guess The Mittster doesn't have any more fuks to give, does he? :D
 
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Rover said:
Well I guess The Mittster doesn't have any more fuks to give, does he? :D
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It seems as such. I mean when CPAC turns on ya who do you have to kiss up to?
 
Kepler said:
Either Biden or Sanders would need to pick, um, how should I say this?, somebody who looks a little more like the rest of America...

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Counter point, Biden has the black votes locked up as essentially being Obama's surrogate. He can afford to go a different direction.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
It might not seem like margin matters, but it absolutely does.

It sends a message you don’t approve of how the other side is conducting themselves.

If someone wins 100,000,000 to 50,000,000 that sends a pretty clear message compared to 65,000,000 to 61,000,000.
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By that same logic though, one could say that someone winning 50,000,000 to 45,000,000 to 25,000,000 (for a third party) would also send a pretty clear message that they don't approve of how both major parties are conducting themselves? I don't want to put words in his mouth but I think the message JD would be sending with a third party vote would be that he does not like what either party is offering...
 
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ericredaxe said:
By that same logic though, one could say that someone winning 50,000,000 to 45,000,000 to 25,000,000 (for a third party) would also send a pretty clear message that they don't approve of how both major parties are conducting themselves? I don't want to put words in his mouth but I think the message JD would be sending with a third party vote would be that he does not like what either party is offering...
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They could, but risking another 4 years of Nazi rule is one helluva price for some public pouting.
 
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