Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

[SJHovey]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Or do you keep coming back to watch trix go at it with ...everyone?

Watching that is kind of dessert, actually.

I know people here don't believe me, but I do wish the D candidate the best of luck in November against Trump. But I'll be honest, when I read this thread (and its predecessors) with the understanding that this is basically the smart, college educated wing of the Democratic Party, I'd be lying if I said I'm not skeptical about the D's ability to mend fences and get everyone behind whoever the nominee might be.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Wasn't that the same fear from 2008-2016 amongst the fringe Right?

I'd say be more afraid of Ivanka running in 2024 with dad's full endorsement.

that's effectively the same thing. same policies, same people running everything, same family funneling money into their businesses

 

[Handyman]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Yup his remarks on transgender frosted me. (and I said Democrat - not liberal democrat)

Yeah you arent one of those either. Democrats dont vote Libertarian ESPECIALLY against Trump. You really got to work on your lies they are way too easy to poke holes in.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Wasn't that the same fear from 2008-2016 amongst the fringe Right?

The difference is that Trump himself has also alluded to the idea that he should be allowed to continue.
As for the candidates:

Power to the people: Bernie calls for federal takeover of electricity production
Sanders wants federally owned utilities to build massive amounts of wind and solar to compete with private generators, but critics say that would complicate an already tricky transition to clean energy.

And like Sanders' healthcare plan, the green energy push would muscle many of the country's biggest companies out of the business.

A Sanders administration would pour funding into the four existing "power marketing administrations" that are overseen by the Energy Department, as well as the Tennessee Valley Authority and one newly created entity, to vastly expand their solar, wind and geothermal power production.

But critics say that government expansion won't sit well in many parts of the country, including some places Democrats will need to defeat President Donald Trump.

“What the Sanders proposal would do is create an 800-pound federally owned power gorilla that would make it very hard for the existing generators to compete,” said Josh Freed, head of energy and climate policy at Third Way, a centrist think tank that opposes the Sanders plan. “I think a plan like this could turn off voters in large parts of the country. It would have challenges in Pennsylvania, Michigan — a lot of the states that are competitive for the election.”

Energy analysts, however, caution that Sanders’s 2030 plan would require a federal infrastructure investment not seen since the construction of the interstate highway system. To get close to Sanders' 100 percent clean energy goal by 2030, researchers estimate the U.S. would need to add about 800 GW of wind and solar resources — about 25 times the amount the federal government expects to be built this year — along with ample amounts of battery storage and transmission. The Sanders camp forecasts that would cost about $2 trillion.

“Our best year for solar and wind — we’d have to multiply that by three and then sustain it for the next decade,” said Sonia Aggarwal, vice president at the analysis firm Energy Innovation, which advises world governments on their climate targets.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

that's effectively the same thing. same policies, same people running everything, same family funneling money into their businesses

It's all good when the family name is Clinton? Kennedy?

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

A Third Way dumbass doesn't like the Green New Deal and is using Reagan talking points to attack it, back to the drawing board!

It's all good when the family name is Clinton? Kennedy?

Hey at least some of the people in this party are sick of the oligarchy and have plans to do something about. You on the other hand just keep doubling down on Trump lol.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

It's all good when the family name is Clinton? Kennedy?

Who said that? Most dems don’t worship the old names like y’all do with St Ronnie

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

It's all good when the family name is Clinton? Kennedy?

The only cases where it actually happened were Adams and Bush. The Harrisons, Roosevelts, and Madison/Taylor/Polk are close.

This is fun.

LBJ and Obama are 4th cousins 3x removed.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

The difference is that Trump himself has also alluded to the idea that he should be allowed to continue.
As for the candidates:

Power to the people: Bernie calls for federal takeover of electricity production
Sanders wants federally owned utilities to build massive amounts of wind and solar to compete with private generators, but critics say that would complicate an already tricky transition to clean energy.

Bernie, put the effort into energy storage, not generation.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Your "point" is ****ing stupid and it's obvious you don't actually care more about saving our democracy than trivial BS centrist talking points.

If you say so Jack ***.

Still wondering who you'll vote for if/when your boy isn't the nominee. Trump is the enemy here...something you BernBros haven't fully figured out yet.

 

[BassAle]

It's all good when the family name is Clinton? Kennedy?

Did we have multiple Kennedys or Clintons elected to the white house in a row, and were they using the office to funnel money into their golf resorts? And Ivanka is already part of this administration. It would certainly be a continuation with the same staff

Funny you left Bush off your list.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Still wondering who you'll vote for if/when your boy isn't the nominee. Trump is the enemy here...something you BernBros haven't fully figured out yet.

Anyone who stands in the way of progress and paves the way for more fascism is the enemy. That includes Trump but also a lot of other people, including Bloomberg and some of the other candidates in this primary. I realize this is probably a lot to process for someone from St. Cloud though.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Imagine actually believing that Warren's campaign has been "Grass roots funded".
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elizabeth Warren, after spending last week attacking other candidates for having outside PAC support, gets a new Super PAC that hasn't disclosed any donors, airing ads in Nevada starting this week <a href="https://t.co/xJGHT0C6TH">https://t.co/xJGHT0C6TH</a></p>— Lee Fang (@lhfang) <a href="https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1230001802910801920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Anyone who stands in the way of progress and paves the way for more fascism is the enemy. That includes Trump but also a lot of other people, including Bloomberg and some of the other candidates in this primary. I realize this is probably a lot to process for someone from St. Cloud though.

So no answer and a personal shot.
Expected no less.
Glad to know you'll help Trump win again.
I'll say the same to you as I did to Ticap then...if he wins and you didn't vote D regardless...shut the hell up about anything because you were part of the problem.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

I already answered that question but we all know reading comprehension isn't exactly well taught at your alma mater.

If you don't vote for the candidate with the best chance of beating Trump and someone else ends up losing to Trump you're just as much a part of the problem bud!

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

The only cases where it actually happened were Adams and Bush. The Harrisons, Roosevelts, and Madison/Taylor/Polk are close.

This is fun.

LBJ and Obama are 4th cousins 3x removed.

The Clinton's missed by that much ...

 

[Deleted member 3166]

I already answered that question but we all know reading comprehension isn't exactly well taught at your alma mater.

If you don't vote for the candidate with the best chance of beating Trump and someone else ends up losing to Trump you're just as much a part of the problem too bud!

I'm voting D regardless moron. You can't say the same. And sorry...i don't think your boy is the best chance and never has been. But if he is the nominee..thats how I'll vote. Again...you can't say the same.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Klobuchar is still the candidate with the best chance to beat Trump in a general election.

Her problem is you run to the outside in primaries and she's built for the general where you run to the middle.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

I'm voting D regardless moron. You can't say the same. And sorry...i don't think your boy is the best chance and never has been. But if he is the nominee..thats how I'll vote. Again...you can't say the same.

yeah, I'm not sure I'm buying the polling that shows him doing the best against Trump. He's going to get painted as a socialist boogieman and it turns out over half the voters have an unfavorable opinion of "socialism" (including some democrats and independents that we'll need to win)

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

Klobuchar is still the candidate with the best chance to beat Trump in a general election.

Her problem is you run to the outside in primaries and she's built for the general where you run to the middle.

Not anymore you don't. Your political model is 20 years out of date, and that's good news for the country. You guys used to know what you were doing but this century has shown the GOP is well and truly inept. Not just bankrupt of ideas, which has been true for 40 years, but also completely incompetent at the business of cynical politics, at which you were once Mozarts.