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Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...x2uEzANrdg0fRn-YokvgD9IPC8D02?docId=D9IPC8D02

"Last week, government lawyers in California asked the full 9th Circuit to reconsider the ruling, calling it a decision of "exceptional importance." Prosecutors noted that the three-judge panel was split 2-1 with sharply differing views, and that the law is also under challenge in Colorado."

"This is a Supreme Court that is friendly to parties asserting speech rights and skeptical about restrictions on those rights," said (opponent).

Supporters of the law take the opposite view.

"It could wind up being the kind of landmark decision that the Supreme Court is going to have to give very serious and very broad consideration to, and I think they'll come down on our side," said (supporter)

What is this issue of "exceptional importance" that could go all the way to SCOTUS?
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A law making it a federal crime to falsely claim an unearned military honor

Now maybe I'm just out of the loop, but really? Is there a rash of phonies claiming to have earned military honors out there? Congress has nothing better to do than this?
The bill's author in Congress, Colorado Democratic Rep. John Salazar, defended the law and said the rulings against it were misguided.

"You go out and you sacrifice and you earn these awards because of heroism. If somebody comes and tries to act like a hero, it kind of degrades what they did," he said. "It's defending their honor, as I see it."

Yeah, and the acts of most modern elected officials degrade the respect that should be accorded to the true statesmen out there. Yet I doubt we'll see that get criminalized anytime soon.

(From a legal standpoint, no way this holds up if it makes it to SCOTUS...freedom of expression pretty much allows you to wear anything and claim anything, and laws against fraud are there to catch those who seek to profit by lying)
 
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Rich Iott, candidate in Ohio's 9th CD, dresses like a Nazi.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-gop-house-candidate-dressed-as-a-nazi/64319/

I honestly don't know if this is a big deal or not.

Creepy. It surely has a different feel from Civil or Revolutionary war reinacting, doesn't it? Remember the big stink about Marge Schott (owner of the Reds) who was evidently a collector of Nazi memorabilia?
 
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I had no clue such re-enactment groups even existed 'til I read that story. So weird. I mean of all the things.
 
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Its horrifying that he compares it to Civil War enactments. Not the same thing.

There was honor in the civil war. I've never really believed the Waffen SS and Sepp Dietrich displayed much of anything other than a ferocious loyalty to their fuhrer and the need to do whatever it took, whatever it took, to advance his aims. Waffen SS officer Jochem Peiper was in charge when American POW's were slaughtered at Malmedy during the "battle of the bulge." Do we really want a bunch of fat middle aged guys re-enacting THAT?
 
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Its horrifying that he compares it to Civil War enactments. Not the same thing.

This brings up a kind of funny story. Last night my wife and I were in Johnstown, PA (where they shot Slap Shot), and we ate at a local chain called Hoss's. We both remarked after how even though our steaks were cooked perfectly, they were still the worst tasting meat we'd ever had.

Today we were driving home and passed a big Civil War Reenactment billboard with four gorgeous horses on it. The next billboard was for "Hoss's."

We have a theory.
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

This brings up a kind of funny story. Last night my wife and I were in Johnstown, PA (where they shot Slap Shot), and we ate at a local chain called Hoss's. We both remarked after how even though our steaks were cooked perfectly, they were still the worst tasting meat we'd ever had.

Today we were driving home and passed a big Civil War Reenactment billboard with four gorgeous horses on it. The next billboard was for "Hoss's."

We have a theory.

I have a little list. . .they never would be missed.
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

creepy. It surely has a different feel from civil or revolutionary war reinacting, doesn't it? Remember the big stink about ralph englestad who was evidently a collector of nazi memorabilia?

fyp
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

It's fun to watch the plots on Intrade.com. The Dems chances of retaining control of the Senate has fallen below 50% in the last couple days.
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

It's fun to watch the plots on Intrade.com. The Dems chances of retaining control of the Senate has fallen below 50% in the last couple days.

That is pretty amusing. how do they figure that - is O'Donnell going to pull out that Delaware race after all?
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

That is pretty amusing. how do they figure that - is O'Donnell going to pull out that Delaware race after all?

RCP has the Senate looking like this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/2010_elections_senate_map.html

Dems have 48 seats including leaners, Reps have 46.
6 tossups are: WV,WA, NV, IL, CO, CA .
It's not that crazy to assume the GOP takes 5 of those 6. Polls show pretty much dead heats in all places except CA.

Also, I'm not sure if this would count in terms of winning the Intrade bet, but there's always the chance Liebermann or Nelson or somebody decide to go full GOP, power hungry leeches that they are.
 
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That is pretty amusing. how do they figure that - is O'Donnell going to pull out that Delaware race after all?

Intrade is the free open market. It's the collected conventional wisdom of everyone in the world who wants to put a bet on anything. This number will get jerked around quite a lot before The Event ends trading on Nov. 2.
If you check the same plot back to last Thursday, it aligns with fivethirtyeight.com's most recent update (Dems retaining 51.5 seats), which uses an entirely different methodology.
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

This is awesome, debate between the candiates for Governor in Maine. Dem Libby Mitchell lecturing Rep Paul Lepage for telling Obama to go to hell over fishing regs that are keeping Maine boats tied to the dock. Oops,
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Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

geezer and wewantmore,

The problem with both nate silver's blog and realclearpolitics is that they're relying on the frequent robo-callers who's accuracy won't be known for a few weeks. In this environoment, especially after what happened in Alaska, who the hell knows anymore? My general take on the Senate is as follows: In almost all elections, races tighten whether its Dems or GOP'ers leading as people come off the fence closer to election day. This affects both sides, but usually one candidate's supporters are more enthusiastic early but then some of the opponents supporters eventually come on board. This happened in both 2008 and 1996 where hapless GOP candidates closed somewhat at the end, as well as 2000 where Bush II's sustained lead evaporated the weekend before the election.

What makes this year different is that virtually all the people on the sidelines right now are Dem leaners. The GOP side is maxed out on enthusiasm. So they key to a big win for the GOP is keeping the unenthused home. That will happen to some degree, but as we get closer to election day more of these people will become "likely" voters. Why does this matter? Because in Senate races such as CA, WA, WV, CO, NV, and IL - so called "toss up" races having say half of the now non voting public re-engage, means its more likely those voters are Dems coming home and that takes these off the board. Somebody like Fiorina for example really needs Dem voters to think the election is on Wednesday instead of Tuesday.

So, where does that leave us race by race? ND, IN, AR are gone, although I don't think Lincoln will lose by the 20 all poll have here down by, losing by 10 vs losing by 20 = the same result, you lost.

WI & PA - poor campaigns by Dems put GOP in front in "blue" states. With Dems most likely down by mid single digits, they really need to push Dem engagement because the normal tightening of races towards the end probably isn't enough to get them there.

KY, AK, FL - wild card races. I don't trust polling in any of these. Way too many variables. Meek's support is going to fall off a cliff, the question is whether those people stay home or vote for Crist. Really, who knows about Alaska? For Kentucky, I'm curious whether out and out proud libertarian Rand Paul, a guy who I think unlike a lot of people would be true to his beliefs once elected, attracts the support polls claim he is in hugely government dependent Kentucky (similar issue in Alaska, but that state can choose another GOP'er whereas there's only the Dem alternative in Ky).
 
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In other news, I think Bob Gray's girlfriend Gov. Brewer is losing her mind....

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43629.html

Yikes...

Interesting how Brewer gets a lot of grief, but nobody gives grief to the Dem operatives who spread the unfounded rumors about her health initially. Typical mainstream media bias. Brewer's campaign should have known better than to do this, knowing they'd get all the grief while Goddard's operatives aren't touched by the media.
 
Re: Death to the Incumbent! Part Two: Now with more Death.

Why are you so attracted to this woman? I took one look at that picture and the words "sea hag" jumped into my mind. ;)
 
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