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Dead Thread 2021 -- If you're reading this, it isn't you.

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Ted K, unabomber

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I hate how newspaper accounts always describe these sort of things. He wasn't killed in a "motorcycle accident". He was killed because an idiot car driver turned right in front of him. I can hear it now, "I never saw him".

They do it with cyclists all the time. The cyclist wasn't killed because he was hit by a car. He was in a "bicycle accident".

This sort of shit just infuriates me. We cannot say or report anything that casts our car culture in a less than flattering light.
 
OTOH, any time you pilot a bike or motorcycle onto a highway you're asking for it. So there was a motorcycle accident -- back in the showroom.
 
I hate how newspaper accounts always describe these sort of things. He wasn't killed in a "motorcycle accident". He was killed because an idiot car driver turned right in front of him. I can hear it now, "I never saw him".

They do it with cyclists all the time. The cyclist wasn't killed because he was hit by a car. He was in a "bicycle accident".

This sort of **** just infuriates me. We cannot say or report anything that casts our car culture in a less than flattering light.

Motorcycle accident doesn't imply that it's the motorcyclist's fault. It's just a way of describing an accident, while at the same time telling the reader they type of vehicle the victim was in or operating.
 
OTOH, any time you pilot a bike or motorcycle onto a highway you're asking for it. So there was a motorcycle accident -- back in the showroom.

You need to meet my father-in-law and mother-in-law.

They spend their summers riding motorcycle around the midwest. I'm talking about the big boy bikes, the Honda Goldwings, that probably run 800 lbs each. Yeah, they each ride their own.

Two years ago they rode them to Alaska. And back.

They are 89 and 90 years old, respectively.
 
You need to meet my father-in-law and mother-in-law.

They spend their summers riding motorcycle around the midwest. I'm talking about the big boy bikes, the Honda Goldwings, that probably run 800 lbs each. Yeah, they each ride their own.

Two years ago they rode them to Alaska. And back.

They are 89 and 90 years old, respectively.

What, exactly, is that supposed to prove?

There are ~30 motorcyclist deaths per 100M miles travelled, vs. 1.5 deaths per 100M automobile miles. Given that passenger cars carry more people than motorcycles, the car safety rate is even more than the 20x better that these numbers would indicate.
 
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