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Being a tad melodramatic aren't ya? I don't recall any lynching's in Boston, or Selma to Montgomery marches, civil rights workers being murdered or even a Massachusetts Burning movie.

It amazes me how well Mass whitewashes it's history. You must be younger. I remember stones being thrown at students and buses in Boston, threats, property damage and physical violence when I was a kid (during desegregation of Boston Schools). The stuff they showed on the local news stations was heinous. Not just the actions but the people who felt righteous indignation when they were called on to be decent

On a more personal note we were ostracized in our neighborhood for renting to a black university professor and his sister (in school to get a MS). He went to the local Catholic Church and their Bible study. He was shunned, told he didn't belong and to go elsewhere by parishioners.

I have been in more than a few States and Countries and Mass has more than its share of the worst bigoted behaviour. Difference is there are enough Progressives who are loudly outraged by bigotry that they manage to give the impression that it is not acceptable here.
 
In the South they don't care how close you get as long as you don't get too big.
In the North they don't care how big you get as long as you don't get too close.

Southern racism is intimate, it is a struggle between two humans sweating and bleeding on each other. It's awful but it's human. Southern whites are in direct competition with blacks as human beings, and they get in close and grapple and cry and grunt. It's an intense, erotic rivalry that is violent like a bullfight or a marriage.

OTOH, for sheer racial alienation and disdain and hatred, for inhumane depersonalization,there is nobody in America to compare with a working class Bostonian.
 
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In the South they don't care how close you get as long as you don't get too big.
In the North they don't care how big you get as long as you don't get too close.

This is accurate. In Detroit, we ghettoized them with white flight to the suburbs and then spent the next 50 years blaming all of the city's problems on its black population and leadership.
 
It amazes me how well Mass whitewashes it's history. You must be younger. I remember stones being thrown at students and buses in Boston, threats, property damage and physical violence when I was a kid (during desegregation of Boston Schools). The stuff they showed on the local news stations was heinous. Not just the actions but the people who felt righteous indignation when they were called on to be decent

On a more personal note we were ostracized in our neighborhood for renting to a black university professor and his sister (in school to get a MS). He went to the local Catholic Church and their Bible study. He was shunned, told he didn't belong and to go elsewhere by parishioners.

I have been in more than a few States and Countries and Mass has more than its share of the worst bigoted behaviour. Difference is there are enough Progressives who are loudly outraged by bigotry that they manage to give the impression that it is not acceptable here.
I am 68 years old, was in the Navy during the first 2 years of forced busing, didn't live in MA the next 3 years, and was just commenting on: most racist city in America.
 
It amazes me how well Mass whitewashes it's history. You must be younger. I remember stones being thrown at students and buses in Boston, threats, property damage and physical violence when I was a kid (during desegregation of Boston Schools). The stuff they showed on the local news stations was heinous. Not just the actions but the people who felt righteous indignation when they were called on to be decent

On a more personal note we were ostracized in our neighborhood for renting to a black university professor and his sister (in school to get a MS). He went to the local Catholic Church and their Bible study. He was shunned, told he didn't belong and to go elsewhere by parishioners.

I have been in more than a few States and Countries and Mass has more than its share of the worst bigoted behaviour. Difference is there are enough Progressives who are loudly outraged by bigotry that they manage to give the impression that it is not acceptable here.

Les

It seems to me that if you're not born in the Commonwealth, you're an outsider..

When Dad and Mom moved to Westwood/Boston in 1980, he was ostracized by the business community until they found out that Mom was Irish and Dad went to Fordham. Then they were "accepted" as "one of them".
 
"I just want to know one thing: when do I get to become an islander?"

"Ellen, never! Never. You're not born here, you're not an islander. That's it."
 
Les

It seems to me that if you're not born in the Commonwealth, you're an outsider..

When Dad and Mom moved to Westwood/Boston in 1980, he was ostracized by the business community until they found out that Mom was Irish and Dad went to Fordham. Then they were "accepted" as "one of them".

I was born in MA. We moved away for a bit and then came back and lived close to where I am now. Never accepted in that neighborhood because we weren't townies (ammend that- we weren't from that particular part of town). Bought a house in the next town over and were pariahs before we rented to 'those people' because, again, we weren't from that exact neighborhood. Move to where we are now- mr les was born other side of town- and I am still an outsider. People still start the question by asking about your pedigree*. Mine is not from here so all the nopes. I also don't fit in well- I believe in funding weird things like education, police and fire depts so I am uppity and expect too much

*well, to be fair they know you are not 'from here' but you might be related to someone they feel is important. I am not
 
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