FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
I don't think dx was complaining about Cubans celebrating.
I don't think dx was complaining about Cubans celebrating.
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DEAD!! All right, who died now?
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
So clear it up - who are you seeing that is celebrating? Cubans or Americans?
Big difference, IMO.
So clear it up - who are you seeing that is celebrating? Cubans or Americans?
Big difference, IMO.
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
Well, are we talking Cubans that are here as refugees, illegals, or Cuban-Americans that are legal citizens of USA? Furthermore, how about anti-Communist Americans?
Enquiring minds want to know!
Well, are we talking Cubans that are here as refugees, illegals, or Cuban-Americans that are legal citizens of USA? Furthermore, how about anti-Communist Americans?
Enquiring minds want to know!
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
I don't really care any way, but IMO, most of the Cubans in Miami are Americans.
I don't really care any way, but IMO, most of the Cubans in Miami are Americans.
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
I really don't care, either. If someone wants to celebrate a death, go ahead. It's their right.
I really don't care, either. If someone wants to celebrate a death, go ahead. It's their right.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
Are there any illegal Cubans in the US? All that had come to us up to a certain point had requested political asylum and eventually obtain citizenship. Have any Cubans made their way here since we've opened relations with Cuba? Technically, they're still under the same rule of the Castro regime, and some say Raul is even more ruthless than Fidel ever was. Would we still grant them political asylum now that relations have been reopened?
Are there any illegal Cubans in the US? All that had come to us up to a certain point had requested political asylum and eventually obtain citizenship. Have any Cubans made their way here since we've opened relations with Cuba? Technically, they're still under the same rule of the Castro regime, and some say Raul is even more ruthless than Fidel ever was. Would we still grant them political asylum now that relations have been reopened?
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
I honestly don't know for sure. I would take an educated guess that some arrived via boat and snuck in, just looking at it from an odds standpoint.
I honestly don't know for sure. I would take an educated guess that some arrived via boat and snuck in, just looking at it from an odds standpoint.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
But why sneak in when all were essentially welcomed and they clearly knew it? Of course, we had to put on a show while their rafts were still at sea, but once they made it to shore they were taken in without issue. Except for Elian Gonzalez, of course. We deported the kid.
But why sneak in when all were essentially welcomed and they clearly knew it? Of course, we had to put on a show while their rafts were still at sea, but once they made it to shore they were taken in without issue. Except for Elian Gonzalez, of course. We deported the kid.
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
They didn't know any better? Being serious, not mocking or sarcastic.
They didn't know any better? Being serious, not mocking or sarcastic.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
I saw Americans in Miami celebrating, who may or may not have been former Cubans or are some generations removed from being off the boat. Either way, it doesn't matter.
I saw Americans in Miami celebrating, who may or may not have been former Cubans or are some generations removed from being off the boat. Either way, it doesn't matter.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
Actually I think it does. If 'your' parents for instance suffered mightily under the rule of Castro, if your cousin disappeared, your sister was tortured, your grandfather wrongfully imprisoned....
There's a significant Cuban community in Miami (obviously you know that so not trying to condescend) and for many people like that I'm not sure I take issue. If it's just random Joe Public joining in than yeah, why are you celebrating?
Actually I think it does. If 'your' parents for instance suffered mightily under the rule of Castro, if your cousin disappeared, your sister was tortured, your grandfather wrongfully imprisoned....
There's a significant Cuban community in Miami (obviously you know that so not trying to condescend) and for many people like that I'm not sure I take issue. If it's just random Joe Public joining in than yeah, why are you celebrating?
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
take my land
take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
you can't take the sky from me
take me out
to the black tell 'em I ain't coming back
burn the land
and boil the sea
you can't take the sky from me
have no place
I can be
since I found Serenity
but you can't take the sky from me
take my love
take my land
take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
you can't take the sky from me
take me out
to the black tell 'em I ain't coming back
burn the land
and boil the sea
you can't take the sky from me
have no place
I can be
since I found Serenity
but you can't take the sky from me
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
I get that and it's fair enough. For me personally, I just couldn't celebrate another person's death. I would celebrate the end of a brutal regime, but that's not what's happening here. Not entirely. His brother is still in power and we're slowly normalizing relations.
I get that and it's fair enough. For me personally, I just couldn't celebrate another person's death. I would celebrate the end of a brutal regime, but that's not what's happening here. Not entirely. His brother is still in power and we're slowly normalizing relations.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Keep in mind that Raul is 85 now, too. It's not going to be a long wait before he shows up in a DEAD!!! thread. I mean, I can't imagine that he's got more than 5-7 years left. It will be very interesting to see what happens in Cuba after he goes.
solovsfett
Registered User
I have no issue with people celebrating the death of the mass murderer Fidel Castro at all. My mom escaped Cuba in 1967 and went to Spain with nothing but the clothes in her back and one change of clothes. No pictures, no money, nothing but two dresses. The following year a cousin in Chicago sponsored my grandma, grandpa, aunt and uncle and they also escaped with nothing. Left all personal belongings because, well those items including pictures were all inventoried and considered state property.
When you abolish freedom of speech and assembly, abolish private property rights and then line people up up and mow them down by firing squad because they spoke out against Castro or Guevara or wrote dissident music or poetry or were gay, and imprisoned others for speaking out or for the fact the informer on the block notified government officials our cousin had a rifle and he was held for 5 years as a political prisoner and branded with a 7 digit number on his wrist like some animal.
When you do that and more you're a filthy disgusting pos and my . 02 is **** Castro and Guevara and I was not the least bit concerned this weekend with the appearance or impropriety or callousness when I had Cuba Libre's at Cubanitas to celebrate Castro's demise and toast my grandparents who unfortunately have passed on and couldn't enjoy the moment themselves and the thought that maybe someday, they could consider home again.
Spartanforlife4
Generic Catchy Message
Re: DEAD!! All right, who died now?
Heard a story on the radio about the Bay of Pigs veterans. Some are actually disheartened because Castro died without seeing his own government toppled and some wish they had been given another chance to overtake Cuba.
Heard a story on the radio about the Bay of Pigs veterans. Some are actually disheartened because Castro died without seeing his own government toppled and some wish they had been given another chance to overtake Cuba.