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Days Since Last Shooting II

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jerphisch said:
Your anecdotes don't change the actual numbers. Bronco posted a couple links, but ffs it isn't that hard to look these things up.

And separately, there is absolutely no reason to compare the safety of guns and cars, ever.
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I provided numbers and links just a couple posts before yours in this thread.
Comparing firearms and automobiles is reasonable due to their common proliferation in the US (each nominally 1 per person).

The numbers say, per 100k, one is more likely to be killed in an automobile incident than by firearm homicide.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
I provided numbers and links just a couple posts before yours in this thread.
Comparing firearms and automobiles is reasonable due to their common proliferation in the US (each nominally 1 per person).

The numbers say, per 100k, one is more likely to be killed in an automobile incident than by firearm homicide.
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No, it's not. One is a method of transportation, the other is for killing things.
 
The Sicatoka said:
I provided numbers and links just a couple posts before yours in this thread.
Comparing firearms and automobiles is reasonable due to their common proliferation in the US (each nominally 1 per person).

The numbers say, per 100k, one is more likely to be killed in an automobile incident than by firearm homicide.
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This reminds me of people who compared the price of gas to milk during the days of $4 gas. One has nothing to do with the other.

But if you really want to go that route, cars have been made safer, by government mandate, every generation. Again, if you want to regulate guns as much as cars, I'd be all for it.
 
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unofan said:
This reminds me of people who compared the price of gas to milk during the days of $4 gas. One has nothing to do with the other.

But if you really want to go that route, cars have been made safer, by government mandate, every generation. Again, if you want to regulate guns as much as cars, I'd be all for it.
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They aren't safer; they're just 5 times more expensive. All to demolish the market and force people to not only rent, but to not drive too far away from their homes at all. Poor, stupid, and dependent is their goal.
 
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Brenthoven said:
You are aware I think the NRA is nuts, right? And that I have stated I'm for mental health checks? And closing the private sales/gun show loopholes?

Keep to your narrative though that unless you are 100% anti-gun, you obviously are in bed with the NRA. :rolleyes:
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The narrative IS pro-gun vs anti-gun and that's why nothing gets done.

And yes, people like you are in fact feeding it.


Why would you call yourself "pro-gun?"

I'm reasonably sure that you don't even own one.


I'm in favor of people being able to legally own guns, but I would never identify as "pro-gun."

I'm also in favor of banning certain guns that civilians have no need to own, but I also wouldn't identify as "anti-gun."


The solutions are in the middle and taking a stance on either end of the spectrum contributes to the current stasis.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Uh ... we don't know that.

< / KFAN meme >
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Well lets see, Infowars broke the story so the chances it is correct (btw it isnt but lets pretend for a second) are as likely NDSU starting hockey next year and winning the National Title ;)
 
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Handyman said:
Well lets see, Infowars broke the story so the chances it is correct (btw it isnt but lets pretend for a second) are as likely NDSU starting hockey next year and winning the National Title ;)
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What proof do you have that it's incorrect, other than some media interpretation of plastics and prescriptions turning more than half of amphibians sterile and/or asexual?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
I provided numbers and links just a couple posts before yours in this thread.
Comparing firearms and automobiles is reasonable due to their common proliferation in the US (each nominally 1 per person).

The numbers say, per 100k, one is more likely to be killed in an automobile incident than by firearm homicide.
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Yet, we, as a society, have agreed to at least attempt to improve the safety and reduce the number of car related deaths.

When are we going to actually start doing the same for firearms?

Especially when cars deaths are generally accidents, dun deaths are generally intentional.

Cars require a licence. Guns do not.

Cars are there to move you from A to B. Guns are just there to shoot stuff or kill living animals.

And then look at the distribution of who owns firearms vs. cars.

They are not equal in any sense of the imagination.
 
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alfablue said:
Yet, we, as a society, have agreed to at least attempt to improve the safety and reduce the number of car related deaths.

When are we going to actually start doing the same for firearms?

Especially when cars deaths are generally accidents, dun deaths are generally intentional.

Cars require a licence. Guns do not.

Cars are there to move you from A to B. Guns are just there to shoot stuff or kill living animals.

And then look at the distribution of who owns firearms vs. cars.

They are not equal in any sense of the imagination.
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No. Cars are there to kill too. See New York. They're both killing machines.
 
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Both are machines of man.
Both add risks to daily life.

I bring up autos because they can be used for both good and not.
I bring up autos because they are almost as prolific as firearms in America.
I bring up autos on a comparative basis; you need a frame of reference with similar proliferation in the population.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Both are machines of man.
Both add risks to daily life.

I bring up autos because they can be used for both good and not.
I bring up autos because they are almost as prolific as firearms in America.
I bring up autos on a comparative basis; you need a frame of reference with similar proliferation in the population.
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LOL

Then make the laws the same. Otherwise, just stop.
 
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