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Days Since Last Shooting II

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So a lawful gun owner saves a bunch of people from an illegal gun owner yet all we're hearing is that we need more gun control. That pretty much sums up where we're at right now as a country. Facts don't matter anymore apparently.

Watch Schumer politicize it within 24 hours, just like he whined about last week.
 
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So a lawful gun owner saves a bunch of people from an illegal gun owner yet all we're hearing is that we need more gun control. That pretty much sums up where we're at right now as a country. Facts don't matter anymore apparently.

What makes him an illegal gun owner? I have seen nothing saying guns weren't legally owned. And if he was killed by a legal gun owner is still a very big if, everything still says maybe that happened, maybe he killed himself, maybe he was cornered by law enforcement 5 miles away, it seems pretty unknown still. So if you want facts to matter, maybe you need to wait for them. The one fact right now is a fool shot a whole bunch of people, with a gun.
 
So a lawful gun owner saves a bunch of people from an illegal gun owner yet all we're hearing is that we need more gun control. That pretty much sums up where we're at right now as a country. Facts don't matter anymore apparently.

One person being able to do that does not mean more gun control isn't needed.
 
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What makes him an illegal gun owner? I have seen nothing saying guns weren't legally owned. And if he was killed by a legal gun owner is still a very big if, everything still says maybe that happened, maybe he killed himself, maybe he was cornered by law enforcement 5 miles away, it seems pretty unknown still. So if you want facts to matter, maybe you need to wait for them. The one fact right now is a fool shot a whole bunch of people, with a gun.

I have HEARD, so don't take this as fact, that he was prohibited from owning a gun. I haven't looked into it yet, so don't know for sure. Heard this from a trusted friend. Not some FB random post, not some CNN hype train, a person I know very well.
 
One person being able to do that does not mean more gun control isn't needed.

Perhaps the churches should be leaving handguns in every pew instead of hymn books. Would let a hero end these things faster eh?
 
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I have HEARD, so don't take this as fact, that he was prohibited from owning a gun. I haven't looked into it yet, so don't know for sure. Heard this from a trusted friend. Not some FB random post, not some CNN hype train, a person I know very well.

He had a dishonorable discharge from the Air Force. That's a lifetime ban on owning guns.
 
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Aurora: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Umpqua CC: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15
Sutherland Springs: AR-15

Nope. Nothing we can do. Thoughts and prayers all around.
 
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AR-15 is the same as any legal gun: one trigger pull, one bang. It just "looks sweeter."
 
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So a lawful gun owner saves a bunch of people from an illegal gun owner yet all we're hearing is that we need more gun control. That pretty much sums up where we're at right now as a country. Facts don't matter anymore apparently.

Had we had effective gun laws in this country and a more reasonable attitude from people like you, there probably wouldn't have been another massacre in the first place. A good guy with a gun did not prevent dozens of people being shot today. There's a fact for you.

You want to know what will prevent this from happening again? One day when the shooter finally figures out how to get into the house when it is in session and 50 or 60 members of congress are shot dead. That's the only way this will change. Other than that, get used to seeing these kinds of things so frequently it will be like reporting high school football scores. If we go 3 months without a random mass shooting, I will be shocked. In fact, my belief is another will happen before 2017 is over.
 
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Had we had effective gun laws in this country and a more reasonable attitude from people like you, there probably wouldn't have been another massacre in the first place. A good guy with a gun did not prevent dozens of people being shot today. There's a fact for you.

You want to know what will prevent this from happening again? One day when the shooter finally figures out how to get into the house when it is in session and 50 or 60 members of congress are shot dead. That's the only way this will change. Other than that, get used to seeing these kinds of things so frequently it will be like reporting high school football scores. If we go 3 months without a random mass shooting, I will be shocked. In fact, my belief is another will happen before 2017 is over.
Laws don't matter, but the underlined does. Our CULTURE needs to change.
 
What makes him an illegal gun owner? I have seen nothing saying guns weren't legally owned. And if he was killed by a legal gun owner is still a very big if, everything still says maybe that happened, maybe he killed himself, maybe he was cornered by law enforcement 5 miles away, it seems pretty unknown still. So if you want facts to matter, maybe you need to wait for them. The one fact right now is a fool shot a whole bunch of people, with a gun.

Killing 26 makes it illegal gun owning
 
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I don't know how to try and change the culture. I really don't. That IS the key, and if anyone has any insight, I'm all ears. We used to solve things with words then it was with fists, and now it's guns. It's quite frightening and sickening.
 
That is the million dollar question.

So, maybe while we try to figure that out we do something about the gun issue. That’s something we could do now, but we won’t. Thoughts and prayers all around, that’s been helping so much. Guns>innocent Americans.
 
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