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Days Since Last Shooting II

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Drew S. said:
I think a lot of it is because of JFK and 9/11. An even better example is Pat Tillman's death. The government flat out lied about what happened and potentially covered up something sinister(or it might have been complete incompetence.) I personally don't care if the government tracks what I do online or what I have for guns. I can see where people would be uneasy with it though.
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And as we've established, what's important above all else is that gun owners feel at ease.
 
Kepler said:
I remember when paranoia like that was limited to a handful of John Birchers who the rest of the right laughed at. Now it's the entire Republican party and the cornerstone of national policy.
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I have never known a consistent Republican voter who didn't immediately begin foaming at the mouth the second you suggest a national registration DB for firearms.

I would exempt antiques. We don't care about the flintlock that a Civil War reenactment nerd brings to his mock battles. But a DB of all semiautomatic firearms would be a fair starting point.
 
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BassAle said:
guns are not registered like cars. This is in my fantasy world where they have to be.
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Sure, but if the cops can run a serial# to see if a specific gun has been reported stolen then allow ammo shops the same. If in fact the gun has been reported sorry no sale.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I have never known a consistent Republican voter who didn't immediately begin foaming at the mouth the second you suggest a national registration DB for firearms.

I would exempt antiques. We don't care about the flintlock that a Civil War reenactment nerd brings to his mock battles. But a DB of all semiautomatic firearms would be a fair starting point.
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They're ****ed they have to register to conceal and carry. Let's abolish that registration too. Everyone can conceal and carry, no license needed. Wild West here we come.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Correct. Just remember the first amendment is meaningless without the second.
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I like to think of it more as only two machines, or mechanisms of man, are specifically mentioned as allowed per the Constitution:

- press, as in printing press*
- arms

Those will always be the most important machines to man**. Their forms may change (look down, see keyboard), but their importance remains.


*Remember, there was no cadre of ink stained wretches going to ol' King George's "press conferences" when that was written, because there was no "press corps". People were free to speak and print, via the printing press, as they want.

** You don't have to like it, but history says it's so and humans so love to repeat history.
 
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Drew S. said:
A lot of gun owners worry the government would do nefarious things with a list like that. Some states have them already.
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No offense, but who gives a crap if they are paranoid? If a bunch of car owners feel the same way should we all just fight to not register our cars. Why does this country treat gun owners like some sort of protected class? And why do they act like a bunch of snowflakes anyways?
 
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SJHovey said:
When guns are initially sold new, or resold by a licensed dealer, they are "registered" using the ATF firearms form. The priimary problem with the forms is they simply go into the ATF and are filed away in the basement. There is no searchable database of those forms, by law. If, for instance, someone wanted to find out how many guns BassAle may have purchased, or what types, you'd have to do a hand search of the forms.
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Gee...I wonder why that is.
 
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Handyman said:
No offense, but who gives a crap if they are paranoid? If a bunch of car owners feel the same way should we all just fight to not register our cars. Why does this country treat gun owners like some sort of protected class? And why do they act like a bunch of snowflakes anyways?
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They are snowflakes. That's why they need all those guns in the first place.
 
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St. Clown said:
Page won't load/bad link.
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Fixed.

A snippet:

"The suspect believed that the mom's friend; who is the victim in this case, was trying to pick up Brian's girlfriend and hit on Brian's girlfriend," Nocco said. "Please note, Brian does not have a girlfriend. In his mind he did. But, in reality he didn't."

Police said the mother and boyfriend fled the home after the shooting and called police. Desario walked out into the middle of the street and pointed a rifle towards Gulf Highlands Elementary School, which was about a block and a half away from the home.
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Gun waiting periods save an estimated hundred lives a year. Sounds like a thing - assuming saving lives is a priority.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/gun-waiting-periods-could-save-hundreds-lives-year-study-says

Brenthoven said:
If there were no illegal immigrants, those jobs they have would be difficult to fill at those wages. So employers would have to raise wages, say to a "livable wage." Huh. Imagine someone working at McDonald's for, I dunno, $15/hr? Someone should get to work on that.


Oh yeah, right.
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Illegal immigrants do play a role - you could argue net positive, but no question net neutral.

And illegal guns?
 
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