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Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

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Brenthoven said:
I figured pump-action is mostly shotguns
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And, truthfully, you're absolutely right. The number of pump action is probably 90% or higher comparing shotguns and rifles with that feature.

I love, love, love my .308 pump rifle though. Beautiful rifle, and somewhat uncommon. Pretty heavy compared to other hunting rifles though.

My first true firearm that I shot as a kid, I'm virtually positive, was a bolt .22. Many chipmunks at camp were taken care of.
 
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Pump action is the closest thing to semi-auto, that still isn't semi-auto. The tube "magazine" on a pump shotgun still only holds 4-5 shells at a time, and is difficult to quickly reload because it's not detachable. There are pump shotguns with detachable magazines, but they are rarer.

Again, never had a problem with a 2-3 round bolt action rifle, or my single-shot 20 gauge in the field. Maybe you Rambos trying to justify the need for more ammo need to work on your aim? :p
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I'm just going to state right here, I've never used a semi-automatic firearm for hunting, nor have I ever felt the need to use, or own one. I'm not saying that this is a reason for a blanket ban on semi-automatics, but I am saying, I think the argument that they are "necessary" or even "beneficial" in the field is dubious at best, until I hear of some examples. People hunted game just fine for centuries without semi-automatics.
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You went duck/goose/birds hunting without a semi auto.
 
hockeyplayer1015 said:
And, truthfully, you're absolutely right. The number of pump action is probably 90% or higher comparing shotguns and rifles with that feature.

I love, love, love my .308 pump rifle though. Beautiful rifle, and somewhat uncommon. Pretty heavy compared to other hunting rifles though.

My first true firearm that I shot as a kid, I'm virtually positive, was a bolt .22. Many chipmunks at camp were taken care of.
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Don't let PETA find out!!
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Ok, so I watched the O'Reilly appearance on Colbert. That was interesting. Lots of good points made by the both of them.
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Especially O'Reilly saying crimes committed with a gun become federal and it's a 10 year mandatory after the state sentence is served.

The laws in this country are waaaay to lax for illegal possession of a gun. Here in Massatuchetts it's one year in the county gym. :rolleyes:
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
And, truthfully, you're absolutely right. The number of pump action is probably 90% or higher comparing shotguns and rifles with that feature.

I love, love, love my .308 pump rifle though. Beautiful rifle, and somewhat uncommon. Pretty heavy compared to other hunting rifles though.

My first true firearm that I shot as a kid, I'm virtually positive, was a bolt .22. Many chipmunks at camp were taken care of.
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I, along with everyone in my hunting group (about 12 of us) all have semi-auto shotguns (slug guns for no-rifle deer areas).
 
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Brenthoven said:
I have shot a bolt action, a 30-odd-6, and a .357, all in Scouts. Haven't shot a gun since then. No need, no uber-desire (I loved to shoot, but not enough to go out and do that activity).
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FYI, it is .30-06. If you're going to speak it, its "30 ot(as in zero) 6"
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Pump action is the closest thing to semi-auto, that still isn't semi-auto. The tube "magazine" on a pump shotgun still only holds 4-5 shells at a time, and is difficult to quickly reload because it's not detachable. There are pump shotguns with detachable magazines, but they are rarer.

Again, never had a problem with a 2-3 round bolt action rifle, or my single-shot 20 gauge in the field. Maybe you Rambos trying to justify the need for more ammo need to work on your aim? :p
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If 3 deer run out, you need more than 1 round. ;)
 
bigblue_dl said:
I, along with everyone in my hunting group (about 12 of us) all have semi-auto shotguns (slug guns for no-rifle deer areas).
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I was simply comparing strictly pump action weapons. I'd guess that it's vastly in favor of shotguns as opposed to rifles that are pump action.

Shotguns on their own, are probably favoring semi-automatic, but I have no idea by how much. I'm not really too up to date on the trends with them (rare that I shoot them).
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
I was simply comparing strictly pump action weapons. I'd guess that it's vastly in favor of shotguns as opposed to rifles that are pump action.

Shotguns on their own, are probably favoring semi-automatic, but I have no idea by how much. I'm not really too up to date on the trends with them (rare that I shoot them).
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Yeah, you don't see many pump action rifles. They're usually bolt, lever or semi-auto from what I can tell.
 
bigblue_dl said:
Yeah, you don't see many pump action rifles. They're usually bolt, lever or semi-auto from what I can tell.
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Yep. Remington still makes a .308 pump (7600), there are some pump .22's, but on the whole, it's uncommon.

Browning made a pump rifle for about 4-5 years in various calibers (1997-2001 or there abouts, but ended production, siting expensiveness, though it may have been a softer market than they expected as well. I guess the thought process is to cater to crossovers that are familiar with pump shotguns, from some of what I've read about them.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
The first gun I ever shot was a semiautomatic rifle with a five or ten-round clip. It was up at scout camp.

I take that back. It may have been the second I've ever shot. The first was definitely a bolt.
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I haven't shot many guns (I'm not a hunter), but my first was a black powder muzzle loader that I used to qualify for the rifle merit badge in Boy Scouts (first time shooting a 'real' gun. I think I had up to 4 shots and had to cluster 3 in an area the size of the base of a soda can. first shot was a bulls eye. I didn't bother taking my 4th shot. Shooting cartons and cartons of BBs and pellets helped prepare me though). Second gun was a pump action shot gun, also at Scout Camp. Third was bolt action .22, again scout camp (I grew up in a home without any guns). Then I shot a semi-automatic .22 rifle with 5 round magazine (antique from the 1940s, inherited from my grandfather). I found some 10 round magazines for it from an antique gun dealer that I almost bought. There are a couple others, all bolt action rifles, that I've just shot one or two rounds from, but that's it. I'm pretty unusual for where I grew up (where hunting was a big pastime for many people).
 
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walrus said:
You went duck/goose/birds hunting without a semi auto.
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Yeah, mostly pheasants. Successfully, I will add. Do I miss some of them that I may hit with a quicker follow up shot? Yes, but I accept that's part of the sport of it.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
I was simply comparing strictly pump action weapons. I'd guess that it's vastly in favor of shotguns as opposed to rifles that are pump action.

Shotguns on their own, are probably favoring semi-automatic, but I have no idea by how much. I'm not really too up to date on the trends with them (rare that I shoot them).
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Shotguns trending more and more towards semi-auto. Main reason for this is less recoil and the marketing idea that a semi is easier to keep on target.
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Shotguns trending more and more towards semi-auto. Main reason for this is less recoil and the marketing idea that a semi is easier to keep on target.
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The semi-auto is great for deer. I only get 3 shots, because I don't bother to take the plug out. But only a few times has that been an issue. In our group it isn't unusual for 2-3 deer to come out and we shoot 2 at a time. We hunt in an extremely over populated area, so there are deer everywhere. We have a big enough group +families that we can't get too much meat.
 
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