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D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

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Why? A frustrating weekend? For both teams? What's the analysis?

As a completely unbiased observer with no vested interest who saw both games, I will offer my opinion.

Saturdays game was incredibly ugly all around. The puck movement was awful, the players looked sluggish. It was just an off day all around, and really a wasted oppotunity for both teams to try and make a statement and carry real momentum over into todays game. I'm sure Elmira was happy to get the two points, but when they took a realistic look at their own play, I'm sure they were not overly pleased. Plattsburgh had to feel like they gave two points away.

As a side note, the officials Saturday were god awful. Fat, lazy, and clueless. That those 3 guys individually can officiate games at this level is bad enough...that they were doing it as a group of 3 is even worse. They destroyed icing calls all night...calling the old icing when a wave-off was warranted under the new rules, missing blatantly deflected pucks, etc. They also missed a blatant too many men call against Plattsburgh right before Elmira took a penalty that put them shorthanded and led to a Plattsburgh goal. Some of the calls they did make were suspect given some of what was let go...but really my biggest issue was with the icings and the complete lack of interest and effort they appeared to show. I was embarassed for them.

I thought todays game would be much cleaner and more well played....and from Plattsburgh end it was better, but still not what I have come to expect from a team of their ability. Elmiras performance was very similar to yesterday. Just completely out of synch, and fortunately Sullivan played well to keep it close.

From my perspective, Plattsburgh is definitely the better team...this year. After Elmira's line of Charron, Campbell and Tirri, Plattsburgh had a huge edge in speed and were able to cause a lot of trouble for Elmira in transition when they were able to make good passes. Elmira has the better goaltender, but they are just not as deep or fast as they have been in past years...which is to be expected given how young they are this year. They have some good pieces to build with in their FR and SO classes..their goalie is still young, and the freshmen Charron and Stewart are going to be elite players at their positions for the next several years. Kids like Lamoureux and Johnston are also still very young and are going to be huge contributors in years to come.

Plattsburgh is the more veteran and experienced team and as mentioned above they were much faster and more dangerous in rush situations, but they too are not as deep in top end talent as they have been in years past. Along with RIT, these two teams are still the clear class of the ECAC West...but if RIT ever had a year to be the dominant team, I think this is it.
 
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Make that 6-3 after 2

Shots 17-12

Hard to tell on these live stats. Looks like 3 penalties for SC, 1 for RF. 1 of kate's goals a PP.
If river falls hangs on to win this one...I would not at all be surprised if the Falcons went 25-0 this season. Stevens Point will put up a fight, and @ Superior could be a tough one for them....but I don't think anyone has the goaltending & firepower to take them out in the NCHA this season.
 
Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

Why? A frustrating weekend? For both teams? What's the analysis?

I don't think even Howie Meeker could analyze that two game set. :)

Let's just say... although there were a few bright spots, both coaches will walk away knowing what they need to focus on prior to the C/P Classic.

Should be a ring a ding dong dandy!
 
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UWRF Goalie change, Cassie Cambell now in the net to start the 3rd. Shots are UWRF 30 SCU 18

7 - 3 UWRF FINAL
 
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As a completely unbiased observer with no vested interest who saw both games, I will offer my opinion.

Saturdays game was incredibly ugly all around. The puck movement was awful, the players looked sluggish. It was just an off day all around, and really a wasted oppotunity for both teams to try and make a statement and carry real momentum over into todays game. I'm sure Elmira was happy to get the two points, but when they took a realistic look at their own play, I'm sure they were not overly pleased. Plattsburgh had to feel like they gave two points away.

As a side note, the officials Saturday were god awful. Fat, lazy, and clueless. That those 3 guys individually can officiate games at this level is bad enough...that they were doing it as a group of 3 is even worse. They destroyed icing calls all night...calling the old icing when a wave-off was warranted under the new rules, missing blatantly deflected pucks, etc. They also missed a blatant too many men call against Plattsburgh right before Elmira took a penalty that put them shorthanded and led to a Plattsburgh goal. Some of the calls they did make were suspect given some of what was let go...but really my biggest issue was with the icings and the complete lack of interest and effort they appeared to show. I was embarassed for them.

I thought todays game would be much cleaner and more well played....and from Plattsburgh end it was better, but still not what I have come to expect from a team of their ability. Elmiras performance was very similar to yesterday. Just completely out of synch, and fortunately Sullivan played well to keep it close.

From my perspective, Plattsburgh is definitely the better team...this year. After Elmira's line of Charron, Campbell and Tirri, Plattsburgh had a huge edge in speed and were able to cause a lot of trouble for Elmira in transition when they were able to make good passes. Elmira has the better goaltender, but they are just not as deep or fast as they have been in past years...which is to be expected given how young they are this year. They have some good pieces to build with in their FR and SO classes..their goalie is still young, and the freshmen Charron and Stewart are going to be elite players at their positions for the next several years. Kids like Lamoureux and Johnston are also still very young and are going to be huge contributors in years to come.

Plattsburgh is the more veteran and experienced team and as mentioned above they were much faster and more dangerous in rush situations, but they too are not as deep in top end talent as they have been in years past. Along with RIT, these two teams are still the clear class of the ECAC West...but if RIT ever had a year to be the dominant team, I think this is it.

Great analysis! Thanks. The limited amount of time I listened to the game on Saturday, it seemed like a little game of pond hockey had broken out. Seems the highlight of the weekend may have been the comedy of the new clock...and who won the over under for both games!!

Over the past two/three seasons, Platty has lost alot of talent. Replacing them and getting the new players in sync with the system takes time. Hopefully the new year will see them in sync better.

Hope everyone has a great Christmas...!!!
 
And then there were three

And then there were three

Down to three unbeaten teams. How far will they go?

1. RIT 13-0
2. UWRF 10-0
3. Middlebury 6-0
 
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If river falls hangs on to win this one...I would not at all be surprised if the Falcons went 25-0 this season. Stevens Point will put up a fight, and @ Superior could be a tough one for them....but I don't think anyone has the goaltending & firepower to take them out in the NCHA this season.

a HUGE advantage that RF has this year is 4 fast lines that all work well together. the team as a whole clicks together much nicer this year than last. having that 4th line is proving to give RF the upper hand in endurance. in the 3rd period when the other team is starting to really tire out RF is still going strong. here are stats right off NCHA site...

GOALS BY PERIOD 1 2 3 OT Total
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UW-River Falls...... 14 16 20 1 - 51
Opponents........... 6 5 7 0 - 18

this seems to be a team that could easily get the job done. i'm officially saving up money for another trip out east!
 
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Down to three unbeaten teams. How far will they go?

1. RIT 13-0
2. UWRF 10-0
3. Middlebury 6-0

Middlebury will have a tough time getting through the Panther/Cardinal classic without a loss.

RF and RIT could sustain this for awhile.

RF has seven "tough" games remaining and four of them are at home with Stevens Point (2) and Adrian (2).

They then gotta go on the road in February for two at Superior followed by a Tuesday game at St. Thomas.

RIT has six "tough" games remaining.

They start the second semester with a road tip to Adrian that could be trouble. Adrian is notorious for splits no matter what team they are playing so that could be where RIT gets its first loss.

The RIT hosts Plattsburgh on Jan. 21 and 22 and goes to Elmira on Feb. 4th and Feb 19th.
 
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a HUGE advantage that RF has this year is 4 fast lines that all work well together. the team as a whole clicks together much nicer this year than last. having that 4th line is proving to give RF the upper hand in endurance. in the 3rd period when the other team is starting to really tire out RF is still going strong. here are stats right off NCHA site...

GOALS BY PERIOD 1 2 3 OT Total
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UW-River Falls...... 14 16 20 1 - 51
Opponents........... 6 5 7 0 - 18

this seems to be a team that could easily get the job done. i'm officially saving up money for another trip out east!

I know this is a long ways off...but if River Falls runs the table, I wonder if the NCAA would bring it back west? Seems only fair...that way they wouldn't be required to for another 5 or 6 years.
 
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I know this is a long ways off...but if River Falls runs the table, I wonder if the NCAA would bring it back west? Seems only fair...that way they wouldn't be required to for another 5 or 6 years.

Put simply. No.

It's coming back East this year no matter what.
 
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I know this is a long ways off...but if River Falls runs the table, I wonder if the NCAA would bring it back west? Seems only fair...that way they wouldn't be required to for another 5 or 6 years.
a whole lot of ifs. But if UWRF and RIT run the table it will be held out east as it should. I'm probably wrong and correct me if I am, Providing nobody upsets the apple cart, Should RIT falter along the way and UWRF goes unbeaten, they would be the highest ranked and highest seed and would host the tourny providing they win all the western preliminaries
 
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a whole lot of ifs. But if UWRF and RIT run the table it will be held out east as it should. I'm probably wrong and correct me if I am, Providing nobody upsets the apple cart, Should RIT falter along the way and UWRF goes unbeaten, they would be the highest ranked and highest seed and would host the tourny providing they win all the western preliminaries

With a 5-2 split, I'd say it's almost a guarantee a west team would not be forced to fly east or vice-versa for a quarterfinal game. In a 4-3 situation, UWRF could still be No.1 and get a bye without hosting rights (see Gustavus 2006). And it just happened last year.
 
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I know this is a long ways off...but if River Falls runs the table, I wonder if the NCAA would bring it back west? Seems only fair...that way they wouldn't be required to for another 5 or 6 years.

Will everyone hold on here...we have an offer on the table for 5 or 6 years.

Up that to say... 11 or 12 years and we'll take it under advisement. :)
 
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In a slightly less anticipated tourney this weekend St. Kate travels to the St Mike's tourney. I'd think on paper St Kate should be favored to beat Colby and St Mikes. Will winning these two games bring any inkling of respect to the west??
 
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The Codfish Bowl may offer the West a greater opportunity to earn some Eastern respect. Trinity (5-1-1, with wins over Norwich and Manhattanville and a tie against Amherst) faces off against St. Mary's (6-1-3 coming into Beantown). I have seen the Bantams play 6 times and the are a fiesty bunch! Bowdoin (whom I regret to say I have yet to watch this season, but currently 5-2) faces U-Mass Boston (4-5) in the other bracket. The Polar Bears could move up on the NESCAC radar with a couple of wins, eh!
GO U BEARS!!!
 
Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

In a slightly less anticipated tourney this weekend St. Kate travels to the St Mike's tourney. I'd think on paper St Kate should be favored to beat Colby and St Mikes. Will winning these two games bring any inkling of respect to the west??

Shouldn't they kind of be expected to win? That being the case, not that it wouldn't gain SOME sort of respect, I think the Codfish, as per obserbear, is a better chance.
 
Re: D3 Scores and Highlights - 2010/11

In a slightly less anticipated tourney this weekend St. Kate travels to the St Mike's tourney. I'd think on paper St Kate should be favored to beat Colby and St Mikes. Will winning these two games bring any inkling of respect to the west??

OTOH, You would think that St Kate's getting shut out 3-0 by a NESCAC bottom feeder like Colby would put an end to this nonsense.
 
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Kates traveled yesterday and the girls were up at 4am new years eve. Sounds like the girls had about 2 hours of sleep so that 3-0 loss means nothing.
 
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OTOH, You would think that St Kate's getting shut out 3-0 by a NESCAC bottom feeder like Colby would put an end to this nonsense.

yep knew that was coming. Clearly St Kates isn't the team they were last year. They're gettin beat up in the west too. I really wonder whats going on there.


Looks like despite gettin outshot considerably...St Kate put up a good fight against Trinity...any one there care to comment?
 
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yep knew that was coming. Clearly St Kates isn't the team they were last year. They're gettin beat up in the west too. I really wonder whats going on there.


Looks like despite gettin outshot considerably...St Kate put up a good fight against Trinity...any one there care to comment?

Did they play Trinity? I must have missed that one. I see where St. Marys played Trinity.
 
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