Anyone know anything about D1 women's hockey? My daughter just got recruited for D1 spot at Brown. She's obviously only in her first year but we now learned that the coaches instituted "tryouts" for all players even though they were all recruited. I just learned that they dumped 2 juniors and a senior after these "tryouts" and now I'm concerned that my daughter could end up the same way. She gave up scholarship money to play for Brown - I hope we didn't make a mistake in selecting Brown. One of the kids that was let go is the best forward on the team. It doesn't make sense. How do you have tryouts after you've recruited these kids?
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D1 tryouts
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
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Maybe you should direct these questions to the program at Brown. We're just fans with opinions but no clout.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: D1 tryouts
I'd still ask them (or better yet, have your daughter do so if she is wondering), just do it respectfully. Such things may happen more at non-scholarship schools, where there isn't an athletic scholarship involved.
kylehockey
Registered User
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If your daughter is into Brown, then you have not made a mistake. Hopefully(worst case), she will graduate with a degree from Brown regardless of hockey.
If your daughter is into Brown, then you have not made a mistake. Hopefully(worst case), she will graduate with a degree from Brown regardless of hockey.
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Ccookie79: I wouldn't open my mouth at Brown either or your daughter WILL be the next "cut". I can assure you, the Brown Men's team doesn't have tryouts. If they did, they wouldn't have any players. If I were you, I'd start looking for a transfer school just in case. it's not a fun team. Ask the players, not the coaches and you'll get the truth. Can't see much of a change until Coach Murphy's deep-sixed. Good luck.
Ccookie79: I wouldn't open my mouth at Brown either or your daughter WILL be the next "cut". I can assure you, the Brown Men's team doesn't have tryouts. If they did, they wouldn't have any players. If I were you, I'd start looking for a transfer school just in case. it's not a fun team. Ask the players, not the coaches and you'll get the truth. Can't see much of a change until Coach Murphy's deep-sixed. Good luck.
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Thanks Kylehockey, you are so right. I'm thrilled she'll have a Brown Degree anyway but Hockey has been her whole life. She's worked hard, she's played hard - I'd like to see her have both - but your point is well taken.
Thanks Kylehockey, you are so right. I'm thrilled she'll have a Brown Degree anyway but Hockey has been her whole life. She's worked hard, she's played hard - I'd like to see her have both - but your point is well taken.
Blackbeard
Well-known member
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Sounds like she doesn't have a scholarship from Brown, in which case talking to the coach or Athletic Director may be your only option. If she did get a scholarship and did sign a "National Letter of Intent" I'd say you don't have anything to be concerned about...but if you want more assurance in that instance call the NCAA and speak to the Director of the "National Letter of Intent".
Just remembered...Ivy...no scholarship...sorry...disregard the above...(I couldn't figure out how to delete this post).
Sounds like she doesn't have a scholarship from Brown, in which case talking to the coach or Athletic Director may be your only option. If she did get a scholarship and did sign a "National Letter of Intent" I'd say you don't have anything to be concerned about...but if you want more assurance in that instance call the NCAA and speak to the Director of the "National Letter of Intent".
Just remembered...Ivy...no scholarship...sorry...disregard the above...(I couldn't figure out how to delete this post).
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gotice
"I'm alive. Bring it"
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There aren't National Letters of Intent at Brown, it is an Ivy school and therefor does not provide athletic scholarships
There aren't National Letters of Intent at Brown, it is an Ivy school and therefor does not provide athletic scholarships
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Your chances of your daughter playing hockey for Brown AND graduating from Brown are slim to none. Look at the statistics for the past 4 years alone and count how many kids were brought in each year and then look at how many graduated. This past year alone, there were 25 kids on last year's roster. They graduated 3 and another 12 are no longer on the roster. Where did that other 12 go? Quit maybe?
Your chances of your daughter playing hockey for Brown AND graduating from Brown are slim to none. Look at the statistics for the past 4 years alone and count how many kids were brought in each year and then look at how many graduated. This past year alone, there were 25 kids on last year's roster. They graduated 3 and another 12 are no longer on the roster. Where did that other 12 go? Quit maybe?
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Thanks, I was going to write that
My daughter just tells me not to worry but I'm paying a lot of money "not to worry". I'm going to be prepared to bail with her if we have to. Dartmouth and Princeton both have potential.
Thanks, I was going to write that
My daughter just tells me not to worry but I'm paying a lot of money "not to worry". I'm going to be prepared to bail with her if we have to. Dartmouth and Princeton both have potential.
gotice
"I'm alive. Bring it"
Re: D1 tryouts
I am not sure it is common place to announce "try outs" for the DI level, however, I would imagine that every school has unspoken try outs every year for their team.
Whether it is just simply encouraging players not to return, or reducing ice time of players that have not lived up to the expected potential when they were recruited. There are no guarantees for a player recruited by any school other than to get an opportunity to fulfill their dreams of playing hockey, while getting an education. An opportunity that is available as long as the player is willing to work hard every shift, every practice, every off ice, to continue to enjoy a spot on the team. Regardless of how hard a player on a team is working, there is always someone else out there working just as hard, if not harder to try and take her spot.
I am not sure it is common place to announce "try outs" for the DI level, however, I would imagine that every school has unspoken try outs every year for their team.
Whether it is just simply encouraging players not to return, or reducing ice time of players that have not lived up to the expected potential when they were recruited. There are no guarantees for a player recruited by any school other than to get an opportunity to fulfill their dreams of playing hockey, while getting an education. An opportunity that is available as long as the player is willing to work hard every shift, every practice, every off ice, to continue to enjoy a spot on the team. Regardless of how hard a player on a team is working, there is always someone else out there working just as hard, if not harder to try and take her spot.
rinkrat890890
New member
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Based on another post you wrote earlier concerning Digit coaching the men's team, my guess is you either don't have a daughter there, or your trying to come off as someone else. If you would have liked Digit to move over to the men's side because it's the best thing for the women, why are you paying for your daughter to play at brown when she's an Ivy League student and could have gone somewhere else?
Thanks, I was going to write that
My daughter just tells me not to worry but I'm paying a lot of money "not to worry". I'm going to be prepared to bail with her if we have to. Dartmouth and Princeton both have potential.
Based on another post you wrote earlier concerning Digit coaching the men's team, my guess is you either don't have a daughter there, or your trying to come off as someone else. If you would have liked Digit to move over to the men's side because it's the best thing for the women, why are you paying for your daughter to play at brown when she's an Ivy League student and could have gone somewhere else?
gotice
"I'm alive. Bring it"
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but nobody should give up scholarship money to play for an Ivy unless they have determined that the academics at the Ivy are more important than the hockey. It would be great if every girl got everything she wished for from collegiate sports, but they don't. Many posters have invoked the age-old wisdom that a girl should pick a school she would love even if she had a career ending injury and could not play. I hope your D feels that way about Brown. A degree from Brown is something to be proud of, and I sure hope that was your primary motivation. Also, Brown has not won many games in the last 4-5 years, and anyone enrolling there to play should expect that sooner or later there might be a house cleaning.
It sounds like you and your D have not done enough homework on this choice. I hope things work out for her.
By the way, which "best forward on the team" was let go?
Please don't take this the wrong way, but nobody should give up scholarship money to play for an Ivy unless they have determined that the academics at the Ivy are more important than the hockey. It would be great if every girl got everything she wished for from collegiate sports, but they don't. Many posters have invoked the age-old wisdom that a girl should pick a school she would love even if she had a career ending injury and could not play. I hope your D feels that way about Brown. A degree from Brown is something to be proud of, and I sure hope that was your primary motivation. Also, Brown has not won many games in the last 4-5 years, and anyone enrolling there to play should expect that sooner or later there might be a house cleaning.
It sounds like you and your D have not done enough homework on this choice. I hope things work out for her.
By the way, which "best forward on the team" was let go?
Title_IX_Player
Inclusion!
Re: D1 tryouts
Oh the angst......but only if you allow yourself to be caught up in it.
Oh the angst......but only if you allow yourself to be caught up in it.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
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There are tryouts at every college program. I can name you many examples of players on D1 schools who just disappeared after a year or two. Guess what, they may not have been cut per the public eye, but they were kind off let go by the coach.
The reality is that Brown is trying to rebuild their program (as they should be as they have been struggling in recent years). They have been recruiting hard so just maybe the incoming class is better than the players already there. Players getting cut after a year or two is common place as well in CIS schools up here in Canada. If kids do not live up to the promise the coaches demand from them, I see nothing wrong with it. I would call it welcome to the real world.
As others have noted, the good news is that at Brown you get a quality education, even if hockey does not work out. That goes for all the Ivy schools.
Thirdly I cannot believe that if you are a parent of a rookie, you are already complaining about it on this forum, before the season even starts. Tells me something is fishy.
There are tryouts at every college program. I can name you many examples of players on D1 schools who just disappeared after a year or two. Guess what, they may not have been cut per the public eye, but they were kind off let go by the coach.
The reality is that Brown is trying to rebuild their program (as they should be as they have been struggling in recent years). They have been recruiting hard so just maybe the incoming class is better than the players already there. Players getting cut after a year or two is common place as well in CIS schools up here in Canada. If kids do not live up to the promise the coaches demand from them, I see nothing wrong with it. I would call it welcome to the real world.
As others have noted, the good news is that at Brown you get a quality education, even if hockey does not work out. That goes for all the Ivy schools.
Thirdly I cannot believe that if you are a parent of a rookie, you are already complaining about it on this forum, before the season even starts. Tells me something is fishy.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: D1 tryouts
Great research RinkRat. I smell a Fish and a Rat at the same time. Just look at three recent posts by said poster. Lots of contradictions. It also brings up many interesting questions.
Posted by CCookie79 on August 8th:
So why would you have picked Brown this year given those comments above.
Posted by CCookie79 on August 6th:
So why would you have picked Brown this year given those comments above. x2
Posted by CCookie79 on August 5th in D3 vs D1:
So why would you have picked Brown this year given those comments above. x3
Great research RinkRat. I smell a Fish and a Rat at the same time. Just look at three recent posts by said poster. Lots of contradictions. It also brings up many interesting questions.
Posted by CCookie79 on August 8th:
So why would you have picked Brown this year given those comments above.
Posted by CCookie79 on August 6th:
So why would you have picked Brown this year given those comments above. x2
Posted by CCookie79 on August 5th in D3 vs D1:
So why would you have picked Brown this year given those comments above. x3
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Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
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This is true to a degree, though in all likelihood the players that "disappeared" were walk-ons. Recruited players aren't cast aside (unless there is academic or other trouble) since there is generally a great deal invested in them. While not the case with all of the programs, the Ivies seem to be more inclined towards "tryouts" and an open opportunity for students as part of a school philosophy of the overall educational experience. (at least in the days of the 27 player rosters)
This is true to a degree, though in all likelihood the players that "disappeared" were walk-ons. Recruited players aren't cast aside (unless there is academic or other trouble) since there is generally a great deal invested in them. While not the case with all of the programs, the Ivies seem to be more inclined towards "tryouts" and an open opportunity for students as part of a school philosophy of the overall educational experience. (at least in the days of the 27 player rosters)