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Cycling 2017.

Probert said:
This may refer to the new skinsuits that Team Sky was wearing that they got from the Norweigan ski team that lowered wind resistance by 38% or something like that. Basically an advantage a big $$ team has over the smaller teams. Basically Tony not winning and holding the jersey for a few day probably makes my pick of him worthless unless he darts out in front to gain some seconds in the next week or so.

Boy the analysis is bad to listen to Bobke and Christian since Froome gained so much time, the race is almost over.
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Yes, it's an obvious play on the mythical "marginal gains" concept Sky has been touting for years. So now the magic unicorn jerseys that supposedly allowed them to match a feat only ever accomplished by the impeccable and upstanding 2009 Astana squad are rightfully being derided as "marginal rains."
 
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XYZ said:
Yes, it's an obvious play on the mythical "marginal gains" concept Sky has been touting for years. So now the magic unicorn jerseys that supposedly allowed them to match a feat only ever accomplished by the impeccable and upstanding 2009 Astana squad are rightfully being derided as "marginal rains."
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Now that is funny!
 
manurespreader said:
I believe this is what XYZ is referring to.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-team-sky-accusations-skin-suit-against-rules
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Ha, the legality of them is a whole 'nother deal. Legal or not, the comedy lies in the fact we're all supposed to believe a few bumps shaved off 30 seconds over 14km. Just more nonsense and lots of people jumped all over it.

In brighter news, 500+ point day for me in velogames as, after all, not every sprint stage is a true flat sprint. I'll take it. Now, if I can get my pseudo-sprinters to defy science and climb well, we'll be talking...
 
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I picked Gilbert just for stages like today(of which several of the sprint stages, and maybe a couple of others are like this, lots of rolling but not backbreaking climbs) and he was nowhere to be found.

But took Demare for the same reason, a sprinter, but like Sagan, get get over the small climbs at the front if he chooses to.
 
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****.

I haven't seen it but that seems a bit harsh. I'm guessing the video tells a different story.
 
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I figure they would relegate him but not kick him out. The straight on shot looked worse than the overhead because in the overhead you can see that Cav is coming up from behind and their really isn't much room for him to squeeze between Sagan and the barriers.
 
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Probert said:
I figure they would relegate him but not kick him out. The straight on shot looked worse than the overhead because in the overhead you can see that Cav is coming up from behind and their really isn't much room for him to squeeze between Sagan and the barriers.
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Looks like I should have kept ARU after all.

Hard to see anyone but Sky winning at this point.
Glad Degenkolb can continue I was sure he'd have to withdraw.
 
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Probert said:
I figure they would relegate him but not kick him out. The straight on shot looked worse than the overhead because in the overhead you can see that Cav is coming up from behind and their really isn't much room for him to squeeze between Sagan and the barriers.
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Late catching up with stages, But I'm in agreement with pretty much everyone that Sagan did nothing wrong. The slowed down video shows that Cav was putting his head and body into Sagan, and Sagan's elbow was simply him trying to get clear of cav's arm/keep himself upright on his own bike. The elbow never even contacted Cav, who was going down before it even went out.

I can see relegating him, just cause it's within their right to do so, but kicking him out of the entire Tour is a bit extreme.

And Cav should be the last one complaining about a rider trying to take other riders out in the sprint, given his past.
 
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I finally saw the video today. That was utter horse **** that they DQed him. I'm with you Rufus, I could see relegation but the DQ was the TDF officials overstepping.
 
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Also, I knew Tejay wasn't in the tour this year after seeing him missing on Velo, but I didn't see a reason why. A quick google search didn't give much for recent results either. Did I miss an injury or something?
 
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He rode the Giro and the Tour de Suisse. That's a heavy workload to then do the Tour. My guess is he'll be their main man for the Vuelta. And falter dismally for the overall, but perhaps salvage a stage win.
 
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The other thing I found kind of laughable was that they DQ'd Sagan for irregular sprinting yet on the same Stage Demare went waaaay off his line cut off like 5 riders and nothing happened to him he won the stage.
 
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Nice to see NBC put all 4 hours of their early coverage on NBC today rather than NBC sports, I suspect they will probably spend the first 1/2 hour or so recapping the Sagan story.
 
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What a horrible crash. Richie Porte looked to be one to keep up with froome.

Terrible. :(
 
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Geesink, Thomas and Porte all out, the first two not much of a surprise. With Geesink and Sagan out and Contador way back sinks my team.

Can we please stop Phil and Paul from talking about the "unwritten" rules. Boy this drives me nuts. Everybody is supposed to stop and wait for Froome because he had a mechanical. But when Porte and Dan Martin crash, Martin in 3rd place, since Thomas had abandoned, 14 seconds behind there's Froome on the front drilling it not waiting at all. He ended up losing a minute. When Quintana and Contador crashed I didn't notice nor did they comment on the Sky train slowing the pace to give them a chance to get back.

The other teams make Sky's job so easy. They have by far the strongest team in the race yet other teams insist on helping them. Why was AG2R on the front? I understand trying to make a move on the downhill, but once it was countered they should have made Sky set the pace. Ditto when Bardet escaped and Aru, Fugalsang and others were helping Froome catch up they should have made him work to bring Bardet back.

On a somewhat cycling note. Did anyone watch the Tour De Pharmacy? I think I will watch it tomorrow on the rest day.
 
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