Covid 19

[e.cat]

The degree of name calling and hatred emanating from one side of this discussion is pretty much shocking

They can't help themselves acs!

 

[e.cat]

Amazing the lies Trump worshippers believe.

The opposition has made pointing out the so called "lies" a cottage industry Russ.

 

[Wayuphere]

The opposition has made pointing out the lies a cottage industry Russ.

Because it’s a daily occurrence.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Re: Covid 19

Amazing the lies Trump worshippers believe.

e.cat posted that President Trump had sounded the alarm about China being a bad actor long ago.

So where are the "lies" in the tweet e.cat posted, Russ?

FWIW, here's a link to an article talking about what we were kicking around on here a few days ago …

https://townhall.com/columnists/dou...te-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441

Well if we are going to post wacko stuff, I’ll contribute:
Who had the motive to benefit? Simple investigative tool. Motive.
The orange man child.

What's the purported "motive"? Please be specific. If you consider it "wacko" that this started in China, please provide plausible evidence to the contrary. Do YOU believe this all started in the US? Even the MSM that's feeding your vitriol doesn't agree with that, unless something new came out overnight …

… and if there is evidence, please let us know ASAP so we do know this is all on Trump for initiating it. OK? But we're not going to just take your word for it. The credibility of critics like you, who accepted the Russia hoax for 3+ years at face value, let's just cut to the chase … it's suspect at best.

 

[Wayuphere]

e.cat posted that President Trump had sounded the alarm about China being a bad actor long ago.

So where are the "lies" in the tweet e.cat posted, Russ?

FWIW, here's a link to an article talking about what we were kicking around on here a few days ago …

https://townhall.com/columnists/dou...te-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441



What's the purported "motive"? Please be specific. If you consider it "wacko" that this started in China, please provide plausible evidence to the contrary. Do YOU believe this all started in the US? Even the MSM that's feeding your vitriol doesn't agree with that, unless something new came out overnight …

… and if there is evidence, please let us know ASAP so we do know this is all on Trump for initiating it. OK? But we're not going to just take your word for it. The credibility of critics like you, who accepted the Russia hoax for 3+ years at face value, let's just cut to the chase … it's suspect at best.

Once again, black is white and up is down in trumpworld.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Covid 19

e.cat posted that President Trump had sounded the alarm about China being a bad actor long ago.

So where are the "lies" in the tweet e.cat posted, Russ?

FWIW, here's a link to an article talking about what we were kicking around on here a few days ago …

https://townhall.com/columnists/dou...te-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441



What's the purported "motive"? Please be specific. If you consider it "wacko" that this started in China, please provide plausible evidence to the contrary. Do YOU believe this all started in the US? Even the MSM that's feeding your vitriol doesn't agree with that, unless something new came out overnight …

… and if there is evidence, please let us know ASAP so we do know this is all on Trump for initiating it. OK? But we're not going to just take your word for it. The credibility of critics like you, who accepted the Russia hoax for 3+ years at face value, let's just cut to the chase … it's suspect at best.

China being a bad actor isn’t relevant. The intelligence agencies back home said this likely would result in a global pandemic... back in January and February.

The president ****ed this up bad.

 

[Wayuphere]

Re: Covid 19

It’s funny how the trumpettes always use opinion pieces as fact but when given facts from the experts, claim it’s a liberal msm scare tactic.

“Well if we are going to post wacko stuff, I’ll contribute “. You missed that part.

 

[HockeyRef]

Re: Covid 19

Bottom line whatever side of the political fence you sit, this virus is here, and I for one am getting my info 100% from those who have nothing politically to gain from it. You can't expect people who don't like the President's message (from the get go) to suddenly embrace him. I am giving him absolutely no credit in this; he had the chance to deal with it and HE decided to politicize it at one of his rally's. You might remember, the 'hoax' thing? He knew this could become an issue. Please, anyone who supports the President...please tell me what you think/thought of that? Instead, we here who have voiced opposition are being hateful? I go with what I see from people, and I have seen enough to form my opinions. What I see is finally he had no choice in the matter, but I do not give him much credit (I am thankful he has allowed the voices of science to speak; that...saves lives.)

I don't 'hate' anyone who doesn't agree with me. What I see is people turning a blind eye to many of the things the President has said about this (and other) issues in this country. I personally do not care for his belittling of people who do not walk in lock step with him. These pressers are almost not worth listening to as they spend the first half of it patting him on the back. If he really cared so much about this, he would have heeded the early intelligence reports. So the past is the past and we have to do what we can to prevent becoming another Italy. I don't think that's too much to ask.

 

[Darius]

Re: Covid 19

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a53NbzTxKg8

From February 1.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Re: Covid 19

Because it’s a daily occurrence.

See, this is the disconnect. Many of us who support Trump understand he's a big blowhard who exaggerates stuff, and yes, a lot of it comes off as boastful. We can debate the frequency, no worries … we get it. He's been selling stuff all of his life, that's how you can do business sometimes. Personal style, what works for him isn't what works for someone else, and vice versa. I think I can speak for most of his supporters, in saying that we don't always take what he says literally. There is a filter, call it a "blowhard" filter, and some of us understand, we've encountered this elsewhere in real life. You cut through the noise, and eventually you get to the message. President Trump sold us on his message. I'll be honest, I think I was like many folks of my ilk who heard all the noise, and rolled our eyes initially. But over time, his message came through, and way more often than not, it wasn't anything resembling the "weathervane thinking" (or wetting one's index finger, holding it up to the wind, which way is it blowing?) we get from most politicians. That was refreshing, and it carried him some way through the 2016 process. It got him the nomination.

He was fortunate to come up against a very dislikable opposition candidate in the general election. But after he won, we got to see if he was going to walk the walk, after all the noise. And for most of us, despite the unprecedented "Resistance" he's had to face since literally 20 minutes after his inauguration, he's gone ahead and done as much as he's been allowed to do. If you told me 3+ years ago this is how it was going to turn out, I'd have been pleasantly surprised.

Which brings us to now. I think I saw an ABC poll the other day that showed the President had a 55% approval rating for how he's handling the current situation. If you read what I've been posting in any sense of depth, you know I'm not on board with some of what's been done on his watch. But he brings these doctors up on stage, lets them talk, and if some of his comments are trying to bring a ray of hope to those who are suffering and hoping for signs of a return to normalcy, then sure, he's guilty of cheerleading.

Right now, as a people, we need a few cheerleaders out there.

Once upon a time, in the depths of the Great Depression, our President Franklin D. Roosevelt once forcefully told the American people "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". FDR had his share of critics (I wasn't there, but you can read as well as I can). But no one came at him for "lying" to the American people, who would mostly continue to suffer through his first two terms. They understood it was a message, and he was being a cheerleader for his - for our - country. A little perspective doesn't hurt.

 

[huskyfan]

Re: Covid 19

The degree of name calling and hatred emanating from one side of this discussion is pretty much shocking

Isn't that the truth?

The virus threads and the political threads on this website have nothing to do with discussions, facts, debate or helpful info. It's all about the flame throw. Once you know that it's easier to take, although I still discount any post that has hate speech in it. If you can't talk about a topic civilly, it general means you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Wayuphere]

Re: Covid 19

I am very familiar with that speech. Everyone hangs on the fear line but ignores the rest of his inauguration speech..
A speech trump could never make.

 

[Wayuphere]

Re: Covid 19

I should add, fear is a good reaction . Panic is the bad reaction.

 

[geezer]

See, this is the disconnect. Many of us who support Trump understand he's a big blowhard who exaggerates stuff, and yes, a lot of it comes off as boastful. We can debate the frequency, no worries … we get it. He's been selling stuff all of his life, that's how you can do business sometimes. Personal style, what works for him isn't what works for someone else, and vice versa. I think I can speak for most of his supporters, in saying that we don't always take what he says literally. There is a filter, call it a "blowhard" filter, and some of us understand, we've encountered this elsewhere in real life. You cut through the noise, and eventually you get to the message. President Trump sold us on his message. I'll be honest, I think I was like many folks of my ilk who heard all the noise, and rolled our eyes initially. But over time, his message came through, and way more often than not, it wasn't anything resembling the "weathervane thinking" (or wetting one's index finger, holding it up to the wind, which way is it blowing?) we get from most politicians. That was refreshing, and it carried him some way through the 2016 process. It got him the nomination.

He was fortunate to come up against a very dislikable opposition candidate in the general election. But after he won, we got to see if he was going to walk the walk, after all the noise. And for most of us, despite the unprecedented "Resistance" he's had to face since literally 20 minutes after his inauguration, he's gone ahead and done as much as he's been allowed to do. If you told me 3+ years ago this is how it was going to turn out, I'd have been pleasantly surprised.

Which brings us to now. I think I saw an ABC poll the other day that showed the President had a 55% approval rating for how he's handling the current situation. If you read what I've been posting in any sense of depth, you know I'm not on board with some of what's been done on his watch. But he brings these doctors up on stage, lets them talk, and if some of his comments are trying to bring a ray of hope to those who are suffering and hoping for signs of a return to normalcy, then sure, he's guilty of cheerleading.

Thank you for this post Chuck! This is the second time in four years I’ve heard a Trump voter “admit” that he’s only human and not some kind of holy diety (as he says of himself, “I’ve never made a mistake!” I understand where you’re coming from.

 

[HockeyRef]

Re: Covid 19

Chuck..that's great you can look past his blow hard stuff..but I am still waiting for you or one of his supporters to deal with his hoax comment. How do you explain that away? But you haven't except to say well it's just the way he is...? I guess I will drop that since that's not going to be answered here.

Also...I'm sorry but I have an issue with the "enemy of the people" media bashing. Yes...there's lots of crappy media (to use his phrase "on both sides"). I guess having a daughter and brother who are journalists kind of fuels that opinion for me. Sorry...he pits people against each other and I cant just rationalize that fact away. I guess it's easier to do that when the majority of what he says and does, fits one's narrative (which, is true for no matter who it is, even....for those who supported dare I say, former President Obama ) It's human to do that. BTW...I really didn't support him lock, stock and barrel on everything, as I have already stated FWIW dept. Gee, he wasn't perfect either was he? And by gosh, he got NO SLACK from the Mitch Mc's out there, no more than the Chuck Schmur gang do Trump. Goes with the territory. Get used to it.)

To be fair, I do give the President credit for coming to terms with this grave situation. I guess I can just look past his grandiose behavior since what he has to say about the situation is of no interest to me. I see what he tweets and that's what he is really feeling. Oh, I know a lot of it is 'red meat' for his base. But those things can't be overlooked, and just passed over. Obviously you can look through it, pass it off 'there goes the President again' but for many of these people? They take what he says as the Gospel truth. The sun rises and sets on what he says at these "rally" thingies and his tweets. His messaging is not to be overlooked; it's what he DOES in this crisis is what matters to me. I do see the wheels turning, but, I can't just overlook the fact that I believe he did not take the warnings seriously enough. I just don't.

So that's my take on it and I do agree he is human just like the rest of us. I dont like everyone either and accept I'm not liked by everyone. Good and bad in all of us. *****ing about him doesnt change the fact that we have a monumental job in front of us. Good luck to all and be well. I will do my best to present the facts of the matter as best I can but my pom pom is not reserved for the President. Be well...

Ps..while I'm sure the vast majority of those who believe the Washington Post is "fake news" this article shares what the WHO thinks about things, and, how NYC is feeling about their current situation:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/22/coronavirus-latest-news/

 

[e.cat]

See, this is the disconnect. Many of us who support Trump understand he's a big blowhard who exaggerates stuff, and yes, a lot of it comes off as boastful. We can debate the frequency, no worries … we get it. He's been selling stuff all of his life, that's how you can do business sometimes. Personal style, what works for him isn't what works for someone else, and vice versa. I think I can speak for most of his supporters, in saying that we don't always take what he says literally. There is a filter, call it a "blowhard" filter, and some of us understand, we've encountered this elsewhere in real life. You cut through the noise, and eventually you get to the message. President Trump sold us on his message. I'll be honest, I think I was like many folks of my ilk who heard all the noise, and rolled our eyes initially. But over time, his message came through, and way more often than not, it wasn't anything resembling the "weathervane thinking" (or wetting one's index finger, holding it up to the wind, which way is it blowing?) we get from most politicians. That was refreshing, and it carried him some way through the 2016 process. It got him the nomination.

He was fortunate to come up against a very dislikable opposition candidate in the general election. But after he won, we got to see if he was going to walk the walk, after all the noise. And for most of us, despite the unprecedented "Resistance" he's had to face since literally 20 minutes after his inauguration, he's gone ahead and done as much as he's been allowed to do. If you told me 3+ years ago this is how it was going to turn out, I'd have been pleasantly surprised.

Which brings us to now. I think I saw an ABC poll the other day that showed the President had a 55% approval rating for how he's handling the current situation. If you read what I've been posting in any sense of depth, you know I'm not on board with some of what's been done on his watch. But he brings these doctors up on stage, lets them talk, and if some of his comments are trying to bring a ray of hope to those who are suffering and hoping for signs of a return to normalcy, then sure, he's guilty of cheerleading.

Right now, as a people, we need a few cheerleaders out there.

Once upon a time, in the depths of the Great Depression, our President Franklin D. Roosevelt once forcefully told the American people "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". FDR had his share of critics (I wasn't there, but you can read as well as I can). But no one came at him for "lying" to the American people, who would mostly continue to suffer through his first two terms. They understood it was a message, and he was being a cheerleader for his - for our - country. A little perspective doesn't hurt.

+1

Trump is a salesman. A New York salesman at that. He could sell sand to the Chinese as we used to say in the biz! Wait, thats a great idea. Sell the Chinese sand and tell them to go pound it! Worked with many like him over the years since I was a stock broker for 30 years. Of course "stock broker" is an outdated term now. There aren't too many stock jockeys left anymore. The more politically correct term is "Investment Advisor." But I digress.

Trump is not scientist, a professor of gender studies or community activist. He's a salesman and a promoter and that's just what we need right now. Leave the science to Fauci et al and leave the message of hope to Trump. He was built for this moment!

 

[walrus]

Re: Covid 19

The degree of name calling and hatred emanating from one side of this discussion is pretty much shocking

Go to the cafe if you want to see that, this thread is downright civil in comparison

 

[walrus]

Re: Covid 19

He was built for this moment!

wow

 

[acs64]

Go to the cafe if you want to see that, this thread is downright civil in comparison

No need to.... this one already has enough of the “my dong is longer than your dong “ in it

 

[Darius]

Re: Covid 19

Fun new game ... feel free to play along, but follow to the end, please ...

One of these posts is not like the others
One of these things just doesn't belong
Can you guess which post is not like the others
By the time I finish this song?

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