COVID-19 - Part 2

[BassAle]

I honestly haven't the slightest, BA. The governors seem to be the ones making those decisions.

I provided a playful (if exaggerated example) in a more recent post. But I'm confident there's no shortage of non-essential (non-medical) research awash out in academia these days. I mean, if people are being asked to avoid non-essential surgeries (Chris Sale and the Sox apparently didn't get the memo), what's the big deal asking some Yale gender studies prof to put zir side project on ice, and focus on <s>indoctrinating</s> educating zir students? Fair is fair, no?

Predoctoral and Postdoctoral research is an essential part of training a future generation of scientists and professors. Shutting down “non-essential” research basically gives up on a generation of scientists and academics (or pushes them to Europe and China and basically gives up our leadership in higher education)

Shutting down “non essential” research indefinitely as part of some budget austerity would have long term impacts.

I work in biomedical research (outside of academia) and we have temporarily paused non-critical experiments to be able to reduce the number of staff that has to be on site at any given time.

 

[walrus]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Snopes Rating - Mostly False; WaPo Fact Check - Four Pinocchios

Sorry to interrupt your socialist workers' Utopia here, we're admittedly deplorables by your oh-so-lofty standards, BUT all of the evidence from last evening - most of which is captured a few dozen posts earlier - is this thread was doing just fine on the D-1 Forum by choice, until one of you <s>bozos</s> geniuses got the brilliant idea to nudge a sympathetic USCHO mod to steal this thread out to the Café under the cover of darkness. Consider yourself the Bob Irsay of the D-1 COVID-19 thread. Now you get to deal with us for another hundred or so posts. You reap what you sow, smart-*****. Be thankful we don't overrun the other thread. Suck it up and deal, buttercup. Karma is a b!t@&.

He has the **** tards on ignore. T FF. Really Kep you have outdone yourself with that line of BS

 

[Whalers]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Whalers, you do realize that the police force is responding to almost every 911 call about a possible Covid death that doesn't occur at a medical facility? On Monday, approximately 20% of New York's police force was out sick -- 6,974 officers to be exact -- mostly due to showing symptoms of Covid. Here's a link to the article: https://abc7ny.com/nypd-officer-dies-coronavirus-nyc-news-updates/6082130/

You do realize almost all of the public workers you listed have literally been working 60-80 hour weeks since early March when most of the state and local governments realized the potential crisis this could/would become. Unlike the Idiot-in-Chief that currently resides in the White House who didn't truly take this seriously until March 23rd. Despite the fact he was first briefed on the virus and the possibility it could be pretty bad on JAN. 3RD!!!

As for ensuring our kids and grand kids have the type of society waiting for them that we want, does that include ensuring we reinstate all of the regulations regarding protecting the environment that have been removed during this administration? Or, ensuring big business and corporations aren't doing sketchy things financially that might someday cause another major financial meltdown? Just curious...

Thank you NotSuccinct for that link. I have to assume you live in Greater NYC because that is your lens you look thru for the effect the WUHAN virus hath wrought, like this applies to every place within the Lower 48. A pretty wide brush we are painting with that because the NYPD is strapped, then every police force in say, Nashua, Cheyenne or Elmira are equally so. We understand that NYC has been very hard hit because of the missteps the White House made to keep Barry's economy in overdrive. BUT, yes, we will give the NYPD a reduction pass as well because of what the OrangeMan didn't do to save HIS city. I actually found an article on some of his missteps that including going to the gym on March 16th, hours before Cuomo (Gov, not Fredo) shut them all down;

https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-city/all-de-blasios-covid-19-missteps.html

Reinstate all the environmental regulations to protect future generations? Like the ones that stopped the water crisis in the Republican stronghold of Flint, MI? Or the EPA (with all of those deep state Bush 2 partisans in charge) disaster at the Gold King Mine? Or are we talking about removing eco-mandates stopping the repatriation of manufacturing jobs back to the US, from pollution belching, non-regulated Chinese companies to save the spotted petitoad?

How about a quick, safe and better yet, low cost method for helping to cleanse the air, the Trillion Tree Initiative. Not a lot of mention of that topic at the million woman march or from the 1632 people who fervently tuned in the other day for the Biden Online Rally. Also not a lot of mention from AOC and the Bernie Bros about this option in the Green New Steal. I hear trees sop up a lot of cow farts and also Biden's methane production when he absentmindedly lets one escape from his Depends. Go ahead, have a good laugh on this one, tell us why knuckle-dragging hillbillies are the only rubes who could believe this load of BS as opposed to say the BU Mensa types espousing things like, …………… eliminating commercial aviation.

 

[net presence]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Hahahahahaha … Snopes … good one … oh, you're serious?!? OK, you run with that.

https://babylonbee.com/news/concern...-think-snopes-is-a-real-fact-checking-website

https://babylonbee.com/news/snopes-rates-the-devils-lies-as-mostly-true

https://babylonbee.com/news/snopes-...ncrete-evidence-but-alludes-to-a-deeper-truth

https://babylonbee.com/news/under-m...forced-to-admit-they-are-not-real-journalists

Listen … if you decide to rely upon Snopes in the future, just imagine me having the same reaction you might have when I might use a conservative source, OK? Same difference.


Hey Chuck!! You're back. I see your still choosing to not answer the questions that I put to you a few nights back from the other thread, not to mention my response to your post from the other thread from yesterday where you made erroneous assertions about how bad you thought the modelers have missed in regards to Covid, your attempt to claim that in calling the 38% of Trump's base "deplorables", Hillary was actually calling them "racists, and sexists, and yada, yada, yada,", and your feeble attempt at linking your opinion regarding the modelers and Covid, to the "modelers" that are supporting human affected climate change. Again, I think I proved fairly convincingly that the two comedians you linked to to "prove" your points really couldn't stand up to my links from NASA and the PBS/NOVA special, "Decoding the Weather Machine". By the way, have you taken the time to watch it yet? Just in case you misplaced the link (and in case anyone else is interested) here it is:

https://www.thirteen.org/programs/nova/decoding-the-weather-machine-vgqhot/

For those that haven't seen it, it's a two hour show that's also on Netflix. If you have any doubts about the truth to human caused climate change, I challenge you to watch it and, if you do and you can still honestly say that you don't think that humans are having any impact (let alone significant impact) with the current changes we're seeing around our planet at this time, then you're definitely a lost cause. But seriously Chuck, are you really that intimidated by my use of facts and logic that you're willing to go cower in the corner? You realize that Kep is going too be even harder on you than I am, right? C,mon big fella, you can do it. The only pain will be to your fragile ego...

I see you're still on your big "the Chinese lied about what really happened in Wuhan and the WHO is enabling them" narrative. For the umpteenth time I'll ask, what in God's name does that have to do with the reality that your Idiot-in-Chief chose to ignore/down play the seriousness of the impending crisis, despite being first briefed on it on JANUARY FREAKING 3RD?!?! The intelligence community explained to him that it was very likely it would become a national crisis in our country if He/the administration didn't start preparing. Finally Chuck, since you are insistent on continuing to try to "get us" with the abortion issue, I'll attempt to respond again.

First...YOU...YOU are accusing US of "dodging the issue"? Holy sh*t is that rich... Again... NO ONE IS DISMISSING THE LIVES OF THE UNBORN!! I'm a practicing Catholic Chuck. But that doesn't mean I'm automatically going to accept the definition of when life begins based on a 2,000 year old book that has been interpreted and reinterpreted numerous times since it was written and the meaning of a number of the original writings has been "adjusted". Many of us just don't understand why the life of the unborn is so much more important to "conservatives" than those who are already actually outside of the womb. If all life is truly scared as Jesus states, why is it that the average conservative is only willing to spend tax money on preventing abortions but, isn't willing to spend money on educating teens about birth control as a means of preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place? Oh, that's right, the 2,000 year old book says that's a sin. Same book also advocates an eye for an eye but hey, we won't follow that directive.

And again, back to abortion itself, there are even a few conservatives that put the life of the fetus over the health/life of the mother. I also find it very hypocritical that conservatives are willing to spend money preventing abortions but, not an programs that once those kids are actually born, will help those same kids dramatically improve their chances to do better than their parents? Programs like, Head Start, and free day care for those that need it, or actually meeting the federal government's legal obligation for funding special education in public schools so that individual states' school districts aren't going broke funding the difference when the federal government doesn't pay their fair share? How about significantly improving teacher pay so that they're making six figures by their 10th year. You believe in capitalism? Then one of the only ways to "motivate" high quality people who have an interest but, due to the lack of competitive pay aren't getting into it, is to actually make it financially fulfilling. How about at least doing Medicare for all with a private option buy in (since I'm pretty sure you aren't on the completely nationalized health care option) so that kids from families that can't afford health insurance won't go without basic health care? And yes, that means we need to raise taxes on the top 1% and corporations AND change the tax laws to close all of the current loop holes.

Chuck, you do realize that from 1946 thru 1962ish, the effective tax rates on the 1% and corporations was approximately 90%? That's right Chuck, 90%.... And, that was also the same time frame that saw the greatest increase in the "middle class" in this country's history. Personally, I'd settle for a rate of 50% but, it would also be that same rate for capital gains . And hey, if we threw in some type of "billionaire's" tax that would be fine as well. If we could enact those rates and remove the majority of loopholes, we would create enough capital to do pretty much anything the "socialists" on the left want. Including nationalized health care, a national minimum living wage, paying for a couple years of post-high school education for those that maintain a minimum grade level, and maybe even a potion of student debt. And finally, as a vet of 23 years, that type of tax setup would also probably allow us to maintain and, maybe even increase spending there. Finally, I'll ask you again the question aparch posed to you in response to your post from yesterday where you brought up abortion -- if, to you use your words -- "that clump of cells" -- is a human life to be cherished at all costs, then shouldn't that expectant mother receive the $500 stimulus for "children" under 17? And if not, why not? C'mon Chuck, I really want to hear your response to both that question, as well as what else I've submitted here. And to Kep, aparch, BassAle, Handyman, or any other left of center person in here, if Chuck doesn't respond to my questions from this post, will all of you continue to pose them in your future posts until he actually answers?

 

[net presence]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

You haven’t ever seen hockey if you’re watching the ECAC. Nobody needs an election when u have Trump.

Hey "dontbringmehome" .... Are you ever planning on responding to my response that I sent you yesterday morning? I spent a lot of time putting that together and it would be fairly impolite of you to not respond. Or, are you just like "Chuck" and, once you're confronted with actual facts and logic that, deep down inside you know you can't really refute what's been said to you so, you just slink away to your man cave and turn on Hannity to make you feel better?

 

[net presence]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Thank you NotSuccinct for that link. I have to assume you live in Greater NYC because that is your lens you look thru for the effect the WUHAN virus hath wrought, like this applies to every place within the Lower 48. A pretty wide brush we are painting with that because the NYPD is strapped, then every police force in say, Nashua, Cheyenne or Elmira are equally so. We understand that NYC has been very hard hit because of the missteps the White House made to keep Barry's economy in overdrive. BUT, yes, we will give the NYPD a reduction pass as well because of what the OrangeMan didn't do to save HIS city. I actually found an article on some of his missteps that including going to the gym on March 16th, hours before Cuomo (Gov, not Fredo) shut them all down;

https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-city/all-de-blasios-covid-19-missteps.html

Reinstate all the environmental regulations to protect future generations? Like the ones that stopped the water crisis in the Republican stronghold of Flint, MI? Or the EPA (with all of those deep state Bush 2 partisans in charge) disaster at the Gold King Mine? Or are we talking about removing eco-mandates stopping the repatriation of manufacturing jobs back to the US, from pollution belching, non-regulated Chinese companies to save the spotted petitoad?

How about a quick, safe and better yet, low cost method for helping to cleanse the air, the Trillion Tree Initiative. Not a lot of mention of that topic at the million woman march or from the 1632 people who fervently tuned in the other day for the Biden Online Rally. Also not a lot of mention from AOC and the Bernie Bros about this option in the Green New Steal. I hear trees sop up a lot of cow farts and also Biden's methane production when he absentmindedly lets one escape from his Depends. Go ahead, have a good laugh on this one, tell us why knuckle-dragging hillbillies are the only rubes who could believe this load of BS as opposed to say the BU Mensa types espousing things like, …………… eliminating commercial aviation.

Oh Whaler, you doth protest too much. As I've already stated, DeBlasio has not covered himself in glory on this one. His Gov yes, but him, no. I have already literally stated in other recent posts that he will have blood on his hands. Not quite to the extent as our Idiot-in-Chief but Bill's initial response wasn't what was needed. Still, had Trump heeded his intelligence experts when he was first briefed on Corona on Jan. 3rd -- yes, that's right, Jan. 3rd...Meaning, if he would've reacted the way most of the leaders in the other industrialized nations did (notice I said most), we probably would've had a chance to be much further along in terms of preparedness -- ramping up production of PPE and procuring ventilators and developing a real "top down" plan -- which, would've save numerous lives.

And no, I'm not a New Yorker -- city or state. I live in a mid-sized city in Minnesota. However, as someone who can claim of three close relatives in local law enforcement, as well as numerous other friends who also serve in numerous metro areas, to include Detroit, Anchorage, Dallas, Denver, along with other smaller cities as well, I'm pretty sure I'm as well informed as any non-law enforcement person on these boards. Thus, I can confidently say that once there are cases of this virus in any community, all aspects of that community's law enforcement cadre are immediately pushed into overdrive, along with that community's elected and non-elected governmental employees. I've always believed in the time honored philosophy of trying to avoid criticizing anyone unless I've at least walked one day in his/her shoes. You may want to consider that moving forward. And no, that doesn't apply to criticism of Trump. I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt the first 6 months of his presidency and, he was such an abject failure -- to include his childish criticism of real war heroes like John McCain and the Gold Star family, as well as other military members -- that it was quickly obvious he simply lacked the basic skills for the job.

Next, in reference to your Flint, MI. water comment, you do realize it was a Republican in the governor's mansion then right? And, his office was accused of withholding information when people started digging into it. And, to their credit, there were both Democratic and Republican state-wide elected officials that fought for Flint's residents. Next, the vast majority of "manufacturing" jobs, at least the way I suspect you envision it, are never coming back in the numbers they used to be. Obviously, global climate change is a complex issue as it involves literally every country on the planet. Despite what you think -- not know, but think -- trust me, there has already been so much deregulation of fossil fuel companies and those who actually use fossil fuels to power their plants in this country over the last three years, there really wouldn't be much less -- if any -- regulation compared to what China allows in that area. So, the "environmental improvement" you seem to be insinuating would occur if we were to move these plants back from China simply isn't real.

As for your Trillion Tree Initiative, I'm actually all for that. It's going to take a multi-directional effort to affect any type of significant change if we're going to have any chance at saving this planet. I'm sorry but, I consider myself to be as "woke" as any 50 year old can be and I've never heard of anyone legitimately arguing to get rid of commercial aviation. And, even if there is a group arguing for that, nobody in the mainstream of the "change" side of the Climate Change debate is seriously arguing that as a necessity. If you're going to debate people about an issue, allow me to suggest that you'll be better off not latching on to the most fringe argument as the thing you want use as your main debate point.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Well, my prediction that my personal barnacle would again try to attach himself to my hull in his insatiable search for relevance and meaning in his life before midnight hit paydirt. My buddy Nostradamus would be quite proud. Anyway … the barnacle still ignores my well-intentioned advice on the whole "quality vs. quantity" thing yet again. Let me demonstrate. Six tedious and ill-informed paragraphs - but hey, at least on one single post, so progress IS being made here! - narrowed down to the first of many demonstrably misinformed spoutings. Now, boys and girls, see the part the barnacle boy wrote below that I highlighted? That's about halfway through the first paragraph IF I'm being charitable. Tries to debunk what Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit actually said in her infamous deplorables speech (emphasis very much on "tries") ...

Hey Chuck!! You're back. I see your still choosing to not answer the questions that I put to you a few nights back from the other thread, not to mention my response to your post from the other thread from yesterday where you made erroneous assertions about how bad you thought the modelers have missed in regards to Covid, your attempt to claim that in calling the 38% of Trump's base "deplorables", Hillary was actually calling them "racists, and sexists, and yada, yada, yada," …

… now, boys and girls, courtesy of YouTube, watch closely on exactly what WAS said (it won't take long) ...

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barnacle boy can't even get halfway through his first paragraph without crashing and burning. Ouch.

Sorry, I know it's costing Mr. 12 Steps his Eagle Scout badge from his thought leaders.

Remind me … why did you guys drag us over here again?!?

Is this all you got?!? SOOOOO disappointing ...

 

[net presence]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Well, my prediction that my personal barnacle would again try to attach himself to my hull in his insatiable search for relevance and meaning in his life before midnight hit paydirt. My buddy Nostradamus would be quite proud. Anyway … the barnacle still ignores my well-intentioned advice on the whole "quality vs. quantity" thing yet again. Let me demonstrate. Six tedious and ill-informed paragraphs - but hey, at least on one single post, so progress IS being made here! - narrowed down to the first of many demonstrably misinformed spoutings. Now, boys and girls, see the part the barnacle boy wrote below that I highlighted? That's about halfway through the first paragraph IF I'm being charitable. Tries to debunk what Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit actually said in her infamous deplorables speech (emphasis very much on "tries") ...



… now, boys and girls, courtesy of YouTube, watch closely on exactly what WAS said (it won't take long) ...

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barnacle boy can't even get halfway through his first paragraph without crashing and burning. Ouch.

Sorry, I know it's costing Mr. 12 Steps his Eagle Scout badge from his thought leaders.

Remind me … why did you guys drag us over here again?!?

Is this all you got?!? SOOOOO disappointing ...

Hey Chuck, I knew I could count on you! Let me do something that I can honestly say I rarely see very many others around here do. (you've actually done this already in regards to how serious Covid has become compared to your original prediction) I was absolutely wrong regarding Hillary’s “deplorables” comments. Obviously, I've never actually seen the video from her making that statement. Otherwise, I would not have put my foot so deeply in my mouth. I can genuinely assure you that if I make a mistake or, am proven wrong about something, I will admit it.

Still, what this illustrates is that, for most normal thinking, well-adjusted people, that's obviously how most would react when literally shown video that proves they were definitively wrong. Funny, in 3.5 years of his "presidency", involving over 14,000 miss-truths, our Idiot-in-Chief literally looks into a camera -- or bevy of cameras -- and, despite the fact there's actual video of him making a specific statement previously that directly contrasts what he's saying at that moment, he literally can't acknowledge he lied or, will he even simply call his previous statement a mistake. What I completely can't understand, is how people who, in every other aspect of their lives are otherwise very intelligent, level-headed people that wouldn't normally defend someone that acts like Trump. Yet, when it comes to Trump, they turn themselves into pretzels defending every single thing he says and does. It’s that hypocrisy that I don’t understand.

Next, are YOU really trying to give me grief about how long MY posts are? Here's the point, you're actually right, mine tend to be pretty **** long. Despite that, I usually receive far more positive reaction than not, despite how long they might be. I assume because that, despite the fact they take a little longer to read, they're usually well presented with quality info that's based in fact or logic or common sense or, all of the above. But let's be clear, your posts are a very close 2nd to mine in regards to their average length. So again, to have YOU giving ME crap about the length of my posts seems a bit odd.

In all seriousness though Chuck, I'm genuinely disappointed you won't legitimately engage with me on a point by point basis about the issues or items we've already raised with each other. Mainly because your posts, although containing what I often believe to be inaccurate premises and talking points, are still usually presented in a well thought out manner, as well as in a generally respectful tone. To be clear -- and I'm not counting any of your recent responses to me regarding this -- some of your recent responses to others have been a little bit less respectful than usual. Still, I genuinely hope your unwillingness to engage with me will change but, if not, from this post on I will refrain from goading you to respond as that’s simply not my usual style and I actually don't like doing that to people.

Having admitted my one inaccurate debate point from my post previous to this, you state that my 6 paragraphs were "ill-informed" and tedious. Whether something is tedious or not is obviously in the eye of the beholder but please, educate me on what specifically I was so "ill-informed" about in my various statements from that previous posts. It's kind of disingenuous to state all of my points were "ill informed" and yet not provide any specific reasoning/rationale as to why you believe that.

And finally, since you chose to not answer it in this last post, I'll try asking one more time. Can you please respond to "aparch’s" and my previous question that, if "that lump of cells" is to be considered a life to be treasured at all costs, then shouldn't the expectant mother be entitled for the extra $500 from the Covid stimulus package? And, to be clear, (I can't and won't speak for aparch but…) I am genuinely not asking that simply as a "gotcha" type of question, although I completely understand why you might interpret it that way. However, the obvious point to the question from "our side's" perspective is that, since conservatives are so quick to use the "heart strings" approach at emphasizing the unborn and what that "clump of cells" could be or, from their standpoint, already is, along with being so willing to spend money on protecting that “clump of cells” to ensure it gets to be born, some of the first things conservatives are usually (emphasis on usually as I don't know your position on this) against spending tax dollars on are programs for things that have been definitively proven to give young kids especially but, even older kids as well, the best chance possible for reaching their full potential. So, if you so stridently believe that every unborn life is precious and should have the same "rights" as that of a one day old, then asking the question about the $500 makes all the sense in the world. Especially if that's for a soon-to-be single mom or, even a family truly working their butts off trying to make it but, having just had one or even both of them laid off due to Covid. So please Chuck, I'm truly interested in hearing your response. Thanks and I hope you and your family are safe and healthy.

Regards, your "Barnacle".

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Chuck will dodge and weave, net. It's how they've operated since Reagan. Truth and policy that serves more than the few works against their self-serving ways and they'll do everything they can to avoid it. At all costs.

 

[LynahFan]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

And finally, since you chose to not answer it in this last post, I'll try asking one more time. Can you please respond to "aparch’s" and my previous question that, if "that lump of cells" is to be considered a life to be treasured at all costs, then shouldn't the expectant mother be entitled for the extra $500 from the Covid stimulus package? And, to be clear, (I can't and won't speak for aparch but…) I am genuinely not asking that simply as a "gotcha" type of question, although I completely understand why you might interpret it that way. However, the obvious point to the question from "our side's" perspective is that, since conservatives are so quick to use the "heart strings" approach at emphasizing the unborn and what that "clump of cells" could be or, from their standpoint, already is, along with being so willing to spend money on protecting that “clump of cells” to ensure it gets to be born, some of the first things conservatives are usually (emphasis on usually as I don't know your position on this) against spending tax dollars on are programs for things that have been definitively proven to give young kids especially but, even older kids as well, the best chance possible for reaching their full potential. So, if you so stridently believe that every unborn life is precious and should have the same "rights" as that of a one day old, then asking the question about the $500 makes all the sense in the world.

Because for 99% of "pro-lifers" the point isn't whether the clump of cells is alive or not. The point is to punish impure little promiscuous hussies for having sex in the wrong way at the wrong time with the wrong people (according to their iron age myths). Just an extension of their mistreatment of gays for the same reasons. If you don't follow their rules on sex, then begone with you - the underlying theme of their approach is: how can they make your life as painful as possible?

 

[e.cat]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

The interesting question to ponder is; would you lefties rather have four more years of Trump or this pandemic? Neither is not an acceptable answer. You have to choose one or the other and be honest!

 

[rufus]

Because for 99% of "pro-lifers" the point isn't whether the clump of cells is alive or not. The point is to punish impure little promiscuous hussies for having sex in the wrong way at the wrong time with the wrong people (according to their iron age myths). Just an extension of their mistreatment of gays for the same reasons. If you don't follow their rules on sex, then begone with you - the underlying theme of their approach is: how can they make your life as painful as possible?

"Why is she out ****ing those other guys instead of ****ing me?"

 

[rufus]

The interesting question to ponder is; would you lefties rather have four more years of Trump or this pandemic? Neither is not an acceptable answer. You have to chose one or the other and be honest!

No, we don't have to choose one or the other. So **** off.

 

[geezer]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Leaving aside whether Trump or Hunter Biden is more to blame for the denial of reality leading to the Trump Plague, before you supposed “righteous believers” bow and scrape to the Holy TrumpGod, remember that he paid one of the 17 beauty pageant girls who he raped $30,000 specifically to GET AN ABORTION OF HIS OWN CHILD. Not quite the beacon of goodness you imagined, eh? False idol.

 

[e.cat]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

I'll count dufus as a vote FOR the pandemic!

 

[unofan]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

The interesting question to ponder is; would you lefties rather have four more years of Trump or this pandemic? Neither is not an acceptable answer. You have to chose one or the other and be honest!

Would you rather have Thomas and Alito both die from the coronavirus and be replaced by liberals, or the pandemic? And no, neither is not an acceptable answer. You have to choose one and be honest!

 

[rufus]

I'll count dufus as a vote FOR the pandemic!

And I'll count you as a vote for ****ing ignorant.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

The interesting question to ponder is; would you lefties rather have four more years of Trump or this pandemic? Neither is not an acceptable answer. You have to choose one or the other and be honest!

I'd say the answer is rather obvious, e.cat ...

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[e.cat]

I'd say the answer is rather obvious, e.cat ...

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It is to those of us with a brain. TDS has been known to cause irreparable brain damage though!

 

[Kepler]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

And I'll count you as a vote for ****ing ignorant.

So stop engaging with it.

These people are:

1. rock stupid

2. carefully inoculated against assimilating any information inconsistent with their programming

3. not debating in good faith

They're the product of a two-generation campaign of relentless stimulus-response-reward on the feeder bar of the Echo Chamber. You might as well argue with furniture.

These are the kids we left behind on the last day of high school and then went off to college and promptly forgot. They moldered away with their glory days memories and their fecund and increasingly fat spouses, becoming more bitter and paranoid, until the Tangerine Tyrant gave them a voice and told them that even slime can get to the top if it is vicious enough. You are arguing with the kid who became a bouncer or a wrestling coach or a day trader. These are the dummies who, if you met them in person, after a few minutes you would just turn on your heels and walk away without a word.

So why let them live in your head here? They are inconsequential. The only time they even touch human existence is when a human notices them. That's why they badger and troll like an insecure kid brother. You give them breath by arguing with them.

If you ignore them, they return to their pathetic invisibility. Banish them to the living hell of their failed lives, sans wisdom, sans happiness, sans dignity, sans everything.