COVID-19 - Part 2

[Wayuphere]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

For something that isn’t that big a deal they say, the trumpettes sure do spend a lot of time ranting about the United States Virus.

 

[NCAA watcher]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

I remain perplexed by the sudden focus on US v. China in addressing the issue of a virus.

I note that you now want us to become China "apologists," a great rhetorical device to force a position on people who were worried about the lack of a US response to the virus.

Put down the townhall right wing site, and answer how this relates to Trump's response from January 3, 2020 to the present, or even from February 2020, when the world knew about this impact but Trump and Fox told us (you) it was just the flu, and blasted that message out to the followers.

Until you can explain why we should believe Trump would have done something different, I'll ignore your "But China" and "But for the impeachment he'd have done something" attempted diversions.

 

[Darius]

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I remain perplexed by the sudden focus on US v. China in addressing the issue of a virus.

Trump playbook. Play ONE. Define an enemy.

 

[NCAA watcher]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

I can't believe you didn't tell me about something in time, when after you told me about it I told my followers this was a Democratic LameStream Media hoax, overreaction, and did nothing for two months.

Just 20 days ago:

If the MSM didn't have any bad news they'd have no news at all. MSM is lovin covid-19 and the market meltdown:/

You'd think folks would pick out the trend of where the hysteria-inducing stuff always seems to originate. Not once in awhile, and not from both sides. Every frickin' thing, every frickin' time. Everything is an "existential crisis", and the solutions always seem to be to give more power (and money) to the folks declaring the crisis.

Lets see how it plays out before you get all excited. My guess is it will prove to be garden variety flu and all blow over in time and the vaccine will be added to the vaccine soup we are all supposed to get each fall. You apparently think its precursor to the end of civilization.

So I guess I'd ask you to reflect on why all of the responses to science were political push back about the LameStreamMedia, and even now we're on to more political talk about China. Has the Right become so anti-science that even objective science becomes suspect? I'd fear for a group that is so marginalized.

 

[HockeyRef]

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I can't believe you didn't tell me about something in time, when after you told me about it I told my followers this was a Democratic LameStream Media hoax, overreaction, and did nothing for two months.

Just 20 days ago:






So I guess I'd ask you to reflect on why all of the responses to science were political push back about the LameStreamMedia, and even now we're on to more political talk about China. Has the Right become so anti-science that even objective science becomes suspect? I'd fear for a group that is so marginalized.

FWIW dept...here's an article detailing the 'missing six weeks'..No use crying over spilt milk, unless of course, you're one of those who are experiencing the worst of the virus, physically, emotionally, or economically. Doubt many will read this, but, providing it anyway. History is not going to be kind to the United States response. But, I digress...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster

 

[e.cat]

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https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...vernment-reportedly-furious-with-china-2020-3

 

[Dan]

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Trump playbook. Play ONE. Define an enemy.

Not to mention the commentary about naive the rest of us are for not knowing how far China's communist government would go to mislead us, while simultaneously defending Trump for his inaction because all he could possibly do is take China at their word...

 

[Dan]

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https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...vernment-reportedly-furious-with-china-2020-3

If only we had an organization to investigate international happenings so that we didn't have to take a foreign government's assertion's at face value. Pretending they were dependent on Chinese press-releases for their knowledge of what was happening in China is nothing more than an abject lack of accountability...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

"The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans."

 

[HockeyRef]

If only we had an organization to investigate international happenings so that we didn't have to take a foreign government's assertion's at face value. Pretending they were dependent on Chinese press-releases for their knowledge of what was happening in China is nothing more than an abject lack of accountability...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

"The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans."

Well that goes without saying...he felt it was all going to "miraculously disappear" etc. I realize he has taken a different stand (he has no choice) but he still undermines the situation in NYC as far as their request for ventilator needs and masks go with his comments.

But ho hum those comments are just
that right? (which we will find out just how that really looks when they hit their apex of infections in 2 weeks according to Cuomo).

 

[e.cat]

If only we had an organization to investigate international happenings so that we didn't have to take a foreign government's assertion's at face value. Pretending they were dependent on Chinese press-releases for their knowledge of what was happening in China is nothing more than an abject lack of accountability...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

"The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans."

Trump may have downplayed the virus early on based on erroneous numbers and erroneous information coming out of China. Apparently on January 14th the Chinese told the world there was no human to human spread of the virus. He quickly transitioned though and hit China with a travel ban on January 31st IIRC only to be branded a xenophobe.

 

[mookie1995]

Trump may have downplayed the virus early on based on erroneous numbers and erroneous information coming out of China. Apparently on January 14th the Chinese told the world there was no human to human spread of the virus. He quickly transitioned though and hit China with a travel ban on January 31st IIRC only to be branded a xenophobe.

Xi downplayed it, yet the US intelligence community warned him.

Who can blame tD for trusting his good friend

 

[Whalers]

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Xi downplayed it, yet the US intelligence community warned him.

Who can blame tD for trusting his good friend

The same intelligence community peddling Russia, Russia, Russia after spying on and framing private citizens? The same 17 agenicies who confirmed that the solid, unbiased Dossier "intelligence" was on the straight up and up, and if you didnt believe it you were a neanderthal? That intelligence community, or the other intelligence community whom may be a bit more trustworthy? Yeah, how come Trump didn’t fully believe what they were saying, that is pretty dumb.

 

[e.cat]

If only we had an organization to investigate international happenings so that we didn't have to take a foreign government's assertion's at face value. Pretending they were dependent on Chinese press-releases for their knowledge of what was happening in China is nothing more than an abject lack of accountability...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

"The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans."

Not to mention this Dan:


https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/the-timeline-of-how-bill-de-blasio-prepared-new-york-city-for-the-coronavirus/

NYC Democrat Bill de Blasio and other NYC officials actually encouraged New Yorkers to go out and go about their business as usual.

NYC now the hotspot of the virus!

 

[aparch]

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Whalers, I can't decide if your tinfoil hat is too tight or not tight enough...

 

[e.cat]

The same intelligence community peddling Russia, Russia, Russia after spying on and framing private citizens? The same 17 agenicies who confirmed that the solid, unbiased Dossier "intelligence" was on the straight up and up, and if you didnt believe it you were a neanderthal? That intelligence community, or the other intelligence community whom may be a bit more trustworthy? Yeah, how come Trump didn’t fully believe what they were saying, that is pretty dumb.

+1

 

[Whalers]

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Well that goes without saying...he felt it was all going to "miraculously disappear" etc. I realize he has taken a different stand (he has no choice) but he still undermines the situation in NYC as far as their request for ventilator needs and masks go with his comments.

Better not disregard NYC's request for ventilators because we have to stock up the warehouses with EVERY one we can get our hands on (so no one else can have them) because the State of NY rejected buying them 3 years ago to fill stock when they had the chance. Had to take a back seat to a big solar project in Buffalo that needed the money, you know to combat "Climate change", so Obama's Martha's Vineyard waterfront home purchased for $12 mil doesnt get washed away by 2025 because of rising seas levels.

To prove this, below is a quote from that ultra-conservative, far right wing rag CNN.com

Here's what Cuomo said:

“we have ventilators in a stockpile and we didn’t send them to the hospital yet. Of course we didn’t — that’s the whole point. The hospitals don’t need them yet. The hospitals have enough ventilators today, Right now we’re putting them in a stockpile,"

In advance, I will craft the responses - This was taken out of context, you didnt have the full story from the quotes, that is not what he said, that is not what he meant.

Suxs when "hoaxes" like this get started, eh!

 

[aparch]

Not to mention this Dan:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/the-timeline-of-how-bill-de-blasio-prepared-new-york-city-for-the-coronavirus/

NYC Democrat Bill de Blasio and other NYC officials actually encouraged New Yorkers to go out and go about their business as usual.

NYC now the hotspot of the virus!

Well, maybe if de Blasio was sitting in that secret Senate meeting in January that discussed this, like the senators who shorted their stocks were, maybe he would have been better prepared.

Or maybe, and this is a big ask, maybe the GOP Senators could remove their lips from Donald's a** long enough to actually care about their constituants instead of padding their bank account. Because it's hard to get re-elected if your voters are dead.

 

[mookie1995]

The same intelligence community peddling Russia, Russia, Russia after spying on and framing private citizens? The same 17 agenicies who confirmed that the solid, unbiased Dossier "intelligence" was on the straight up and up, and if you didnt believe it you were a neanderthal? That intelligence community, or the other intelligence community whom may be a bit more trustworthy? Yeah, how come Trump didn’t fully believe what they were saying, that is pretty dumb.

Intel followed Russian agents. If those agents meet with trumpets, guess what?? Intel sees them cause tD is stupid
And Trump was found to obstruct justice by mueller . Pretty dumb

 

[e.cat]

Intel followed Russian agents. If those agents meet with trumpets, guess what?? Intel sees them cause tD is stupid
And Trump was found to obstruct justice by mueller . Pretty dumb

That vaunted intelligence also told us that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. How'd that work out for us Mooks?

 

[mookie1995]

Suxs when "hoaxes" like this get started, eh!

The only hoax being perpetrated on fools is Jesus and Mary were white

They looked like osama bin laden. Pretty sure Mary had a beard too, but that’s just an educated guess