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Covfefe-19: We Can Handle Slight Inconveniences. Part 8.

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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Hearing a lot of “epis know disease but shouldn’t be making any decisions for our economy.” Yes, letting economists and republicans decide what to do is a great solution.

I am so tired of hearing the “i could pass the flu” absolute BS. We have vaccines that do a good job of herd immunity and those of us who are not *******s and are able get shots to help protect others.
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I am with you. Hearing the 'lack of understanding' fueled by either willful ignorance or intellectual laziness is fatiguing. 'Social distancing' is not perfect it only decreases risk. Sort of like pulling out and hoping you won't get her pregnant. It only takes one. If you are out of your house you are at risk or you are a vector. When you go in a place, no matter where, the aerosolized virus hangs there. Sequential people visiting means sequential reloading of the air. It seems like such a simple concept. I guess people mentally fatigue out and are incapable of maintaining vigilance. It will mean a lot more deaths because no matter how much rationalization or intellectualizing employed Mother Nature says hold my beer.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When adults are in charge. <a href="https://t.co/jy0MeS64X5">https://t.co/jy0MeS64X5</a></p>— Darren Grem (@darrengrem) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrengrem/status/1254939372346056706?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When adults are in charge. <a href="https://t.co/jy0MeS64X5">https://t.co/jy0MeS64X5</a></p>— Darren Grem (@darrengrem) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrengrem/status/1254939372346056706?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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An island nation of a couple million people in the middle of nowhere?
 
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Yes. They took quick decisive action and eliminated it quickly.

No one said it’s the same as the US, that trope is old and tired. If we believed in science here too, things could already be different for us
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Yes. They took quick decisive action and eliminated it quickly.

No one said it’s the same as the US, that trope is old and tired. If we believed in science here too, things could already be different for us
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Being an island or set of islands, would help influx of people that have the disease, though. Harder to cross the borders.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Yes. They took quick decisive action and eliminated it quickly.

No one said it’s the same as the US, that trope is old and tired. If we believed in science here too, things could already be different for us
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Hawaii has 50% more cases per 100k.

But you know, geography or some other stupid argument ignoring the fact they’ve quashed it(for now).
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Yeah, I understand geography, thanks.
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I am not trying to point you out, honestly. Some people try to equate islands to landlocked/etc countries, and it's not the same. As many have joked, it's the Madagascar/Pandemic game issue. Islands are way different.
 
The Rube said:
I am not trying to point you out, honestly. Some people try to equate islands to landlocked/etc countries, and it's not the same. As many have joked, it's the Madagascar/Pandemic game issue. Islands are way different.
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Ok. But my point was, we can’t discredit what others do just because they’re not exactly the same demographics and geography we are. People with a brain can account for an island having asterisks while leaning from now they did this so quickly.

Singapore is also an island and has a huge resurgence.
 
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Tourism is a big industry in New Zealand. They ignore it, they're overrun. They acted very quickly and shut it down. Now that they've done that AND they're an island nation, they have it much easier than most. Except the tourism industry, I suppose.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Ok. But my point was, we can’t discredit what others do just because they’re not exactly the same demographics and geography we are. People with a brain can account for an island having asterisks while leaning from now they did this so quickly.

Singapore is also an island and has a huge resurgence.
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Think of the average person. Not the ones who post here. :D

This.......is a mess, overall. We have some idea at this point what we're dealing with. Unfortunately, we don't have a true handle on it. Not yet. We're getting there.
 
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My company is working on a plan to "return to a productive new normal" this summer. Will be a gradual move of people working from home back on site. Involves universal testing. Essential employees with any symptoms have been tested. Next will be symptomatic employees currently assigned to work from home. Eventually testing will include all asymptomatic employees starting with those currently on site and then those currently assigned to work from home full time. Employees working remotely will have to be tested before returning to on-site status. (we run the test in house, and have contracted with local hospitals to do the swabs at their drive through sites). Also involves twice a day temperature checks and logging (they are sourcing thermometers to distribute to everyone, which takes time given current supply constraints). Will also likely involve use of masks in common areas, and reconfigured cafeteria and office space (some of that has already been done for the current essential employees that need to be on site now).

As my job can be done 100% remotely, I'm expecting to be mostly working remotely at least until fall. They had to postpone a bunch of non-critical experiments, and getting bench scientists/research assistants back on site is a higher priority. My wife already spends one day a week on-site and will be transitioning to mostly on-site far before I will. She has a large private office, while I share a ~1000 square foot open concept office with 9 other programmers (whiteboard walls, 10 desks, couch, small meeting room and the desks are in fixed locations in the center of the room due to power/networking and to keep the walls available for whiteboarding).
 
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BassAle said:
My company is working on a plan to "return to a productive new normal" this summer. Will be a gradual move of people working from home back on site. Involves universal testing. Essential employees with any symptoms have been tested. Next will be symptomatic employees currently assigned to work from home. Eventually testing will include all asymptomatic employees starting with those currently on site and then those currently assigned to work from home full time. Employees working remotely will have to be tested before returning to on-site status. (we run the test in house, and have contracted with local hospitals to do the swabs at their drive through sites). Also involves twice a day temperature checks and logging (they are sourcing thermometers to distribute to everyone, which takes time given current supply constraints). Will also likely involve use of masks in common areas, and reconfigured cafeteria and office space (some of that has already been done for the current essential employees that need to be on site now).

As my job can be done 100% remotely, I'm expecting to be mostly working remotely at least until fall. They had to postpone a bunch of non-critical experiments, and getting bench scientists/research assistants back on site is a higher priority. My wife already spends one day a week on-site and will be transitioning to mostly on-site far before I will. She has a large private office, while I share a ~1000 square foot open concept office with 9 other programmers (whiteboard walls, 10 desks, couch, small meeting room and the desks are in fixed locations in the center of the room due to power/networking and to keep the walls available for whiteboarding).
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Sounds like precautions taken, and attempt to function like in the past. Very nice.
 
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The Rube said:
Sounds like precautions taken, and attempt to function like in the past. Very nice.
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actually it's been stressed it won't be "like in the past". It will be a new normal. Lots of testing, temperature monitoring, social distancing (although in a relaxed form) are here to stay for the foreseeable future. It's required though to resume a lot of projects that were put on hold. Some things still won't be happening.
 
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BassAle said:
actually it's been stressed it won't be "like in the past". It will be a new normal. Lots of testing, temperature monitoring, social distancing (although in a relaxed form) are here to stay for the foreseeable future. It's required though to resume a lot of projects that were put on hold. Some things still won't be happening.
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Exactly. It's a new normal, adjusting, and continuing on. I guess I meant "in the past" as in swerving to the current practices, the new normal, however one wants to classify it.
 
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Had not seen we passed 1 million US cases. Didn't even bake a cake.
 
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Covid silver lining
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had an interesting Zoom today with a group of architects and office planers.<br><br>A nearly 100% sell-out of plexiglass and plastic/cloth office dividers.<br><br>One very large tech company—just today made an order for ~5000 that just about zeroed our all in the US.<br><br>3 month backlog. <a href="https://t.co/xc5ZZg4hfe">pic.twitter.com/xc5ZZg4hfe</a></p>— Brian Roemmele (@BrianRoemmele) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1254975781396045824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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