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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Yup.
everything I’ve studied, this didn’t come from a lab. But it was certainly hidden and stifled by the Chinese gov, just like sars, costing millions of lives.
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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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everything I’ve studied, this didn’t come from a lab. But it was certainly hidden and stifled by the Chinese gov, just like sars, costing millions of lives.
SonofSouthie
Misanthrope
If you haven't seen this check it out.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chinas-covid-secrets/
MichVandal
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Probably hit 500,000 deaths in the US today. Over 12 months, wont' hit Cancer or Heart Disease, although it still possible that over a rolling year, COVID will take more than cancer.
Thanks to all of you who downplayed this virus last year. With your efforts, people have died who were not going to.
Thanks to all of you who downplayed this virus last year. With your efforts, people have died who were not going to.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
80% of those deaths are the result of conservative ideology, indifference, ineptitude, and indolence.
I know it's frustrating seeing people whose health issues are entirely brought on by their own behavior - and worse, many of whom have done absolutely nothing to help curb COVID spread - but at this point we just need to vaccinate people. Just get it in everyone.
We all knew this was coming at us, but it hurts no less to see.
I really wonder how things would be with leadership that had approached competency.
rufus
rock and roller
America First. MAGA.
I know you've been to the mountaintop, Kep, but source?
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**** off, you absolute twat. I hope you don’t get it until 2024
”WATCH: Meghan McCain on the latest episode of "The View" called for Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert, to be fired, blaming him for “inconsistent messaging” in the distribution of coronavirus vaccines.
“The fact that I, Meghan McCain, co-host of The View, don’t know when or how I will be able to get a vaccine because the rollout for my age range and my health is so nebulous, I have no idea when and how I get it,” she added.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...lYdy_3cqgz_qyjPBVEg6tnTU6jkRQqgXzl63oWMhkAsWM
”WATCH: Meghan McCain on the latest episode of "The View" called for Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert, to be fired, blaming him for “inconsistent messaging” in the distribution of coronavirus vaccines.
“The fact that I, Meghan McCain, co-host of The View, don’t know when or how I will be able to get a vaccine because the rollout for my age range and my health is so nebulous, I have no idea when and how I get it,” she added.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...lYdy_3cqgz_qyjPBVEg6tnTU6jkRQqgXzl63oWMhkAsWM
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
My ample as-s. I have no idea nor I suspect does anybody. But they did truly f-ck up.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Yeah what a weird stance to take. I mean if she was saying "I am the daughter of a Vet, a US Senator and a mother who is still a public figure and I have no idea what is going on with the shots" that would be a statement I could understand. To be honest I am kind of getting fed up with it too. Every day it is some new story and the time line shifts. Minnesota is not exactly helping either in this regard...
But who the eff cares if a host of a TV show gets the shot or not? No offense but TV personalities are not important and do not deserve the shot before anyone else and that goes for Meghan McCain, Whoopi Goldberg or anyone. Shut up you entitled piece of chit.
Seriously. Also, vaccine roll out isn't really Fauci's main concern.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Don't you know who I am?
Fauci all along has said that we need to get it out there, and get it done sooner rather than later. That's been his message the whole time. If your state is messing up, because the whole rollout from Day 1 has been a mess at the Fed level, which created more confusion for the states, then let's start there. Had the Federal gov't taken the stance of actually coordinating resources, she might have a point.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Well in the course of a couple days he went from saying it would be April/May to now likely June/July before mass rollout comes. (partly due to the J&J issues and so on so it makes total sense) Stuff like that is what is what is frustrating some. (leave Whiney McCain out of this) He seems to the untrained eye to often flip flop between positivity and negativity.
The problem is (oh the delicious irony) that because Biden and his version of government is being pretty open and honest about it all, the projections and information change cause, science. This of course is not really a problem (and I am not complaining) but it does cause confusion. For example in the course of a day or two the CDC said one thing about teachers going back, Fauci said a different thing, The Veep said another thing and Biden contradicted them all. It can be stressful if you are paying super close attention because there is no answer there. People want answers not "well this is what the guideline says". We can read the guidelines, stop worrying about upsetting the Teacher's Union and just say "While we hope to get all teachers vaccinated before they go back to work in truth that isn't possible yet so precautions will need to be made". Rip the band-aid off we all know it is coming.
(which again is a million times better than the BS we had 6-10 months ago)
Andy Slavitt needs to do more to get the facts out there because he is able to make it much more palatable for people. The Biden Administration needs to get him out there more. People had been lead to believe for so long that once a vaccine was out that would be the giant leap to re-opening that every time a target moves it gets them a little bent out of shape. He does a great job explaining why these targets move, what they mean and so on. Right now the CDC and the Oval don't really do a great job of that IMHO.
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MichVandal
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IMHO, the biggest problem with COVID and the vaccine right now is that things are still changing REALLY fast.
As opposed to words and no actions, where nobody really cared, we changed immediately on Jan 20, 2021- and the fluidity of the situation has not changed, yet. Of course, noting that people are still banking on CDC and Fauci's word back in Feb 2020- that drives a lot of the doubters nuts. But the situation change is real.
It would be nice if they all talked together- and all knew what has changed in the last hour.
But it's kind of nuts. Here in SE MI, Wayne Co decided to help, so they managed to arrange 1000 doses to put out. And got 1,000,000 calls for them. People want instant results and changes, and can't deal with the fact that we are still in the roll out phase for the vaccine. Let alone the fact that some of the administration of a vaccine are being done by groups that have never done it- so they have to make their own infrastructure brand new.
Expectations are super high, as they should be. But some realism has to be part of it.
We are just over a month into this administration, trying to put together a system to vaccinate over 1M people per day. Ramping up the supply of that is really hard.
As opposed to words and no actions, where nobody really cared, we changed immediately on Jan 20, 2021- and the fluidity of the situation has not changed, yet. Of course, noting that people are still banking on CDC and Fauci's word back in Feb 2020- that drives a lot of the doubters nuts. But the situation change is real.
It would be nice if they all talked together- and all knew what has changed in the last hour.
But it's kind of nuts. Here in SE MI, Wayne Co decided to help, so they managed to arrange 1000 doses to put out. And got 1,000,000 calls for them. People want instant results and changes, and can't deal with the fact that we are still in the roll out phase for the vaccine. Let alone the fact that some of the administration of a vaccine are being done by groups that have never done it- so they have to make their own infrastructure brand new.
Expectations are super high, as they should be. But some realism has to be part of it.
We are just over a month into this administration, trying to put together a system to vaccinate over 1M people per day. Ramping up the supply of that is really hard.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
The scientists are doing what they can. We can fault them but I'd prefer to just listen and do what's best moment to moment.
After the last 4 years no conservative can ever criticize anyone ever again for any reason. Not motives or competence or honesty. They are not welcome in the discussion. They are terrorists.
After the last 4 years no conservative can ever criticize anyone ever again for any reason. Not motives or competence or honesty. They are not welcome in the discussion. They are terrorists.
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