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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Handyman said:
Yep just like the budget...COVID will matter after Biden takes office.
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W E M U S T H A V E A U S T E R I T Y ! ! !

The Republicans at my office have already started which means talk radio has found the old record, dusted it off, and is spinning it 3x an hour.
 
Here is the CDC write up on the 17/18 flu season, there were an estimated 810,000 hospitalizations, versus less than 750,000 COVID hospitalizations and this is over a MUCH longer period than 2018 season, & also check out COVID-19 as shown in this cartoon

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season...-2017-2018.htm

Context is so important. Yes hospitals are busy now. But not unusually busy. Surges happen quite regularly. The only difference is that for some reason this year there is the need to shut down society because of it.

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"(CNN) America enters the somber holiday weekend following a Thanksgiving Day that saw more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases and 1,200 deaths -- skyrocketing numbers given that 20 states did not report data....
"The US on Thursday marked the 24th day in a row with more than 100,000 new cases. Hospitalizations hit a new high -- for the 17th consecutive day -- with more than 90,400 Covid-19 patients nationwide, according to the COVID Tracking Project."​

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/27/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html
 
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I was flying through Arlanda on my way to Kiruna last month and about 25% of people were wearing masks in the airports, despite there being signs requiring them. This was right before they started to implement additional measures but I was surprised by how few people wore masks in the airport and nobody ever wore them anywhere else during the week I was up there.
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Interesting. My info, obviously, is second hand so I'd defer to your personal experience.
 
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alfablue said:
To those same people- why didn't you think about that during the tax cut discussions?? Oh yea, there were no discussions- you just passed it because. When a TRILLION dollars of more debt wasn't a big deal.

But now we want to spend money helping everyone- that's somehow bad....

Again, dismiss the fake concerns of the racist party.
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But......the tax cuts were going to pay for themselves. Revenue neutral. Not increase the deficit even a little bit.
 
alfablue said:
To those same people- why didn't you think about that during the tax cut discussions?? Oh yea, there were no discussions- you just passed it because. When a TRILLION dollars of more debt wasn't a big deal.

But now we want to spend money helping everyone- that's somehow bad....

Again, dismiss the fake concerns of the racist party.
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They only care about the funnel of cash going to the very rich. The wider the gap the happier they are. Pretty soon it will be normal for 50% of the country to be hungry and without adequate shelter. Utopia is not far behind for Turtle Boy and his Reaganite minions.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
They only care about the funnel of cash going to the very rich. The wider the gap the happier they are. Pretty soon it will be normal for 50% of the country to be hungry and without adequate shelter. Utopia is not far behind for Turtle Boy and his Reaganite minions.
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So..... late '90s to today Russia??
 
It turns out that watching “Contagion” on this work holiday while developing congestion, headache, and shortness of breath wasn’t the best choice. I’m starting to feel less hopeful that this is nothing, and more wondering if I’ll survive.
 
alfablue said:
I wonder if any economist ever looked into this model from the 80s. Just for the sake of looking at it.
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I wonder if any hasn't. Reich et al have summarized the results many times.

Short answer: it's almost a dollar-for-dollar match between the amount the 1% absconded with and debt. The rest of the economy was a wash as even the slight increased economic activity was wiped out by the inefficiencies of skyrocketing inequality. It was even worse than the most alarming warnings from economists from the 70s onwards. Even they thought that there would be some gain (at the cost of the immiseration of the middle class and the erection of a new gilded age ruling class). But there wasn't; it was all grift. It was a literal unwinding of the New Deal and Great Society programs that created the American middle class.

The sole economic engine of the last 40 years has been increased productivity of labor. All the benefits of that were mopped up by tax cuts for the wealthy. Meanwhile, the revenue shortfall from the legal tax evasion of the three heists transferred into the national debt.

It was simple, clean theft and it's the only purpose the Right has to continue to exist. It is class vampirism.
 
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geezer said:
It turns out that watching “Contagion” on this work holiday while developing congestion, headache, and shortness of breath wasn’t the best choice. I’m starting to feel less hopeful that this is nothing, and more wondering if I’ll survive.
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Dude yikes. Very sorry to hear about this and godspeed.
 
Slap Shot said:
Dude yikes. Very sorry to hear about this and godspeed.
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Thanks, it’s still pretty minor today... bad headache though... in any case I was able to schedule a test for Tuesday before I will risk going out. I can do some of my work at home.
 
alfablue said:
I've pointed out the major fault in the thinking before- comparing giving lot of money to rich or poor- where rich people save most of their income and poor spend it all- so giving money to the poor keeps the economy going as the money is recycled multiple times; whereas the rich invests it, and it never actually gets back into the economy.
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I saw a good story recently, I think in NYT, about millennial heirs of capitalist fortunes who are giving away their money to good causes. I’m sure it’s a slim minority, but the trend is that the younger they are, the more progressive economically (the rich kids are well educated so). A related positive is that the youngsters overwhelmingly moved to Biden this year. Trump’s model of fascist domination is totally unsustainable.
 
geezer said:
I saw a good story recently, I think in NYT, about millennial heirs of capitalist fortunes who are giving away their money to good causes. I’m sure it’s a slim minority, but the trend is that the younger they are, the more progressive economically (the rich kids are well educated so). A related positive is that the youngsters overwhelmingly moved to Biden this year. Trump’s model of fascist domination is totally unsustainable.
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The people that use the word Facism the most seem to have the least idea of what it is.

Some much great #Science discussion about the virus from Team #Science

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Minnesota with 9k new cases last two days.

will probably pale compared to the numbers once all the imbeciles start showing symptoms shortly
 
Hockey Least down to 3 teams that are not Quarantining and so far no pause announced. This is getting silly. They are still trying to push thru. That means PC will get to play the 2 remaining teams- they are the Typhoid Mary of the League. Maybe they will wipe out the last 2 and there will be a brief pause?
 
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