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Like we did here in Minnesota?

Look, I didn't object when Walz imposed his mask requirements, and I've dutifully worn my mask whenever I'm out. But what were we doing back when he implemented that ban, maybe 7-900 new cases per day? We're running what, maybe triple that right now?

Sure, if he hadn't implemented the ban there is a very good chance it would be even worse, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking we were going to stop this from spreading.

You do realize there’s tons of non compliance right? I’d not score Minnesotans well on adhering to the walz guidelines
 
Like we did here in Minnesota?

Look, I didn't object when Walz imposed his mask requirements, and I've dutifully worn my mask whenever I'm out. But what were we doing back when he implemented that ban, maybe 7-900 new cases per day? We're running what, maybe triple that right now?

Sure, if he hadn't implemented the ban there is a very good chance it would be even worse, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking we were going to stop this from spreading.

Once you’re at 700 cases a day you are already in trouble. Action needs to be taken BEFORE things get bad.
 
You do realize there’s tons of non compliance right? I’d not score Minnesotans well on adhering to the walz guidelines

Obviously this is anecdotal, but I'd be inclined to disagree. From what I've seen Minnesotans have been pretty good about it, at least where I've been. I don't remember the last time I saw someone in a grocery store or public place without a mask. When I went to vote, everyone was wearing a mask and keeping a safe distance. I haven't been to any bars or anything like that, but those places where I've been seem to have good compliance.
 
Obviously this is anecdotal, but I'd be inclined to disagree. From what I've seen Minnesotans have been pretty good about it, at least where I've been. I don't remember the last time I saw someone in a grocery store or public place without a mask. When I went to vote, everyone was wearing a mask and keeping a safe distance. I haven't been to any bars or anything like that, but those places where I've been seem to have good compliance.

Stores are ok. I’m seeing masks too, in metro area. I’m also told it’s not early as good once you’re out of the twin cities.

im more referring to everyone that still gathers indoors with friends and family. Heck my own extended family still gets together every week, despite seeing family friends catch it from kids and die. Holidays, birthdays, travel across the US- tons of people I know in Minnesota are still doing this, and so wearing a mask at target may prevent some from catching it from you, but there’s a crap ton of community spread happening outside of stores and restaurants
 
Like we did here in Minnesota?

Look, I didn't object when Walz imposed his mask requirements, and I've dutifully worn my mask whenever I'm out. But what were we doing back when he implemented that ban, maybe 7-900 new cases per day? We're running what, maybe triple that right now?

Sure, if he hadn't implemented the ban there is a very good chance it would be even worse, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking we were going to stop this from spreading.

Maybe look where a lot of the spread is these days and look at how they treat mask mandates. While the metro areas are definitely still having issues (with higher compliance) the spread in the rural areas these days from everything I hear is the issue. Having driven around the state a lot during the Pandemic (nothing much else to do) I can say there is a definite difference in how the virus is dealt with. (also true in Wisconsin)

The places that were ripping Walz, the ones that now call him a tyrant (good god that is almost as funny as the Kamala Harris is a Socialist BS) are getting hit hard and it isnt a friggin coincidence.

To offset your anecdote my GF's therapist was spouting off the Faux News BS about death rates and how it isnt that big of a deal...in Hennepin County...yesterday. The Trumpers I know have been doing it since Day 1.
 
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Another guy on the morning show I listened to got it. His whole family has it. (he actually lost a family member to it earlier in the Pandemic) He has no idea how they got it but for a day or so it seemed like a normal change of weather cold. They went and got tested anyways to make sure and found out. Said it still is mostly like a cold (though he is only a few days in) but it hits him in waves. One minute he feels like it is over (like a cold) and then 2 minutes later he wants to lay down in bed for the day and sleep it off. Alternating hot and cold flashes. Says it is mild but definitely scary.

Of course he isnt dead...so he doesnt count.
 
You’ll have two days where you feel better and then it rushes back the next day, even worse.
 
Another guy on the morning show I listened to got it. His whole family has it. (he actually lost a family member to it earlier in the Pandemic) He has no idea how they got it but for a day or so it seemed like a normal change of weather cold. They went and got tested anyways to make sure and found out. Said it still is mostly like a cold (though he is only a few days in) but it hits him in waves. One minute he feels like it is over (like a cold) and then 2 minutes later he wants to lay down in bed for the day and sleep it off. Alternating hot and cold flashes. Says it is mild but definitely scary.

Of course he isnt dead...so he doesnt count.

Sounds like a cold.

On a side note it is amazing how much The CupCake's #Science relies on their political beliefs.
 
We're told the only way out of this is a vaccine. A vaccine for a disease so deadly and infectious there isn't enough of it in the population to test the efficacy of said vaccine. Welcome to the Clown World.


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On Tuesday, front-runner Pfizer revealed in an earnings call that the first interim analysis in its Phase 3 clinical trial has not yet occurred. That means there hadn’t yet been enough Covid infections among the trial participants to take a first stab at analyzing whether the people randomly assigned to receive vaccine were infected at a lower rate than people who were assigned to get a placebo injection.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/29...ctations-on-when-well-get-a-covid-19-vaccine/
 
Argentina, which has now been in lockdown for 225 days (world's longest), has the highest current COVID death rate in the world. Lockdowns kill.

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that study is about cloth masks in a healthcare setting, where they are absolutely not appropriate.

Right and cloth masks become Magic Covid Destroyers in a public setting. Let me know if there is anything here that you feel is absurd or doesn't make sense. Also, remember don't quote me, its not good for business having someone point out all sorts of inconsistencies in the AdultChildren Dogma.

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To Hovey.

NY and NJ have a higher proportion of deaths because people in the cities there are packed in like sardines, on the streets, on public transportation which I'm sure a greater percentage of their population uses to get back and forth to work, etc. They were the perfect petrie dish for this virus to incubate and spread.

The only reason your Midwestern states haven't got there yet is one; time, and two; their population density isn't as great. Look at their numbers per million or whatever benchmark you choose. Also, give them time. It takes longer for the virus to infect people 50 at a time at the legion hall potluck supper than it does thousands riding the subway every day.

But you know this, and you just want to play *******. So, **** you very much.
 
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Obviously this is anecdotal, but I'd be inclined to disagree. From what I've seen Minnesotans have been pretty good about it, at least where I've been. I don't remember the last time I saw someone in a grocery store or public place without a mask. When I went to vote, everyone was wearing a mask and keeping a safe distance. I haven't been to any bars or anything like that, but those places where I've been seem to have good compliance.

Hovey...most experts state we need 85-90% mask wearing compliance, along with legitimate buy in to social distancing to really get control of the virus. As a nation, I believe we are at less than 60% mask wearing. And, we certainly aren't social distancing as well as we need to. I'll also second Stauber's comment regarding our neighbors, along with stating that the only reason we aren't as bad as they are at the moment, is due to the fact that Walz put our masking mandate in as early as he did. Unfortunately, I suspect we will be in a more restrictive gathering scenario -- no bars or gyms or theatres and restaurants at 25% capacity or take out only -- by Thanksgiving or even earlier. Possibly no indoor sports either. Especially considering the fact that both Massachusetts and New Hampshire stopped all youth and high school hockey for at least two weeks.
 
The only reason your Midwestern states haven't got there yet is one; time, and two; their population density isn't as great.

That's the scariest part of ND and SD to me. They are among the most rural states and yet they are leading the league in per capita cases. That's got to be from willfully ignoring safe practices due to political idiocy.
 
Hovey...most experts state we need 85-90% mask wearing compliance, along with legitimate buy in to social distancing to really get control of the virus. As a nation, I believe we are at less than 60% mask wearing. And, we certainly aren't social distancing as well as we need to. I'll also second Stauber's comment regarding our neighbors, along with stating that the only reason we aren't as bad as they are at the moment, is due to the fact that Walz put our masking mandate in as early as he did. Unfortunately, I suspect we will be in a more restrictive gathering scenario -- no bars or gyms or theatres and restaurants at 25% capacity or take out only -- by Thanksgiving or even earlier. Possibly no indoor sports either. Especially considering the fact that both Massachusetts and New Hampshire stopped all youth and high school hockey for at least two weeks.

Non of the non sense you just blathered has anything to do with "really get control of the virus." That is not how it works Not Present, never has never will.
 
Really Jeb?...That's funny because literally E.V.E.R.Y. infectious disease expert or group of experts says I'm right and you're wrong. How do you account for that? Do you really think they're all Democrats? Seriously Jeb, your level of cognitive dissonance is astounding. In fact, I recommend a psychiatric and/or psychological examination. :)
 
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