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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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First Time said:
Seriously...what the hell happened to any moderation on here. We may as well be allowed to moderate ourselves if they'll do nothing.
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I guess the Faculty Lounge is the go-to "safe space" where all the beta males go to chill.

Note to Thought Leader: Since you're out of the basement, can't you toughen your bunch up?
 
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Chuck Murray said:
Y'know ... it's cute but kinda sad sometimes, when the ones who think they're the center of universe, get this weird idea that they're deserving of the attention of the adults in the room. They're not clever enough to get the unspoken message, so they keep kicking and screaming for attention, and it just never seems to come. Heartbreaking that even his pals won't clue him in ... unless of course he has no real pals ... that would be even sadder ...
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Certainly don't think I'm the center of the universe. However, since about the third post between us back in April, you've hid in your closet because it's obvious you know you can't win the debate. Literally, every time I've challenged you on a salient point regarding the virus, you have refused to actually answer/address it with any type of logical, substantive, or data supported response. It's always some right-wing, the cure is worse than the disease trope. So trust me, I understand exactly why you didn't/wouldn't respond directly. And, I promise, I haven't lost a wink of sleep over it either.

What will be interesting is how you respond when the world changes on Nov. 4th. Remember, 60+% of the country identifies themselves as left of center. If they all start to turn out in a consistent fashion, your side won't win a presidential election for a very long time. Like Kepler says, it's only a matter of time before your side dies off...
 
Chuck Murray said:
Y'know ... it's cute but kinda sad sometimes, when the ones who think they're the center of universe, get this weird idea that they're deserving of the attention of the adults in the room. They're not clever enough to get the unspoken message, so they keep kicking and screaming for attention, and it just never seems to come. Heartbreaking that even his pals won't clue him in ... unless of course he has no real pals ... that would be even sadder ...
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And I didn't spend 23 years of my life helping defend this country to let a bunch of right-wing, science denying, Russia loving, misogynist, tiki-torch carrying white nationalist Nazis squander it away....
 
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What will be interesting is how you respond when the world changes on Nov. 4th. Remember, 60+% of the country identifies themselves as left of center. If they all start to turn out in a consistent fashion, your side won't win a presidential election for a very long time. Like Kepler says, it's only a matter of time before your side dies off...
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It’s very telling how political this virus is to you. You tie it back to politics just about every chance to you get. Even when the post you are replying to doesn’t involve politics.

And then you try to back yourself as some Science Guru who wants a strict lockdown for 6 weeks.

Back in reality.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....04.20167932v3

A binary Yes/No approach to the interpretation RT-PCR unvalidated against viral culture will result in false positives with segregation of large numbers of people who are no longer infectious and hence not a threat to public health.

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Chuck Murray said:
(1) Spanish Flu (H1N1; 1918-1920) - 500 million infected, 17-50(!) million deaths worldwide
(2) Asian Flu (H2N2; 1956-1958) - 150 million infected, 1 million deaths worldwide
(3) Hong Kong Flu (H3N2; 1968-1969) - 100 million infected, 1+ million deaths worldwide
(4) Wuhan Flu/COVID-19 (H1N1; 2019-2020) - 27 million infected, 850,000 deaths worldwide

So yeah, that's four (4) similar outbreaks in a century. Did you experience the last one? I did.


It's funny, I used to think the whole "safe spaces" thing to describe sensitive sorts was overdone.

Emphasis on "used to". But in deference to your sensitivity, no bolding this time.

You gonna be OK, sunshine??
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Thanks for sharing. Perspective is key and we have lost any form of it.

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/stat...32502069252096

Good thread of information about Sweden and neighbors. Context and perspective are key and the themes apply universally. Otherwise you just have hysteria.

75% of deaths were in nursing homes and elder care. so ask yourself: "how much good could having locked all working age swedes inside possibly done on covid deaths even if lockdown were 100% effective?" pretty much none. certainly not enough to justify the price.

 
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Some said it is unfair to compare New York State to Sweden. How about comparing Stockholm City to similarly dense cities in the US? Despite no business lock downs, no closed primary schools, and no masks, Stockholm City has had fewer deaths than similarly dense US cities. How?


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Scarlet said:
So, since Sturgis attracts people from all over, do you think the high numbers in SD and ND indicate a visitor from out of state was positive and infected locals?
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Given how many are asymptomatic I’m sure a lot of people with it traveled there and spread it. Sadly contract tracing here isn’t nearly sophisticated enough but heck that’s why you don’t allow these sizes to congregate
 
dxmnkd316 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/

I remember someone telling me on this board that they wouldn’t see a huge difference in coronavirus cases distinguished between red and blue states.

that’s... a lot of red states at the top of the fastest growing per capita and overall per capita numbers.
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Not everyone catches the flu on the same day. Not sure why anyone is surprised that different locations eventually see their turn as the “hotspot.” You want to predict where the next one will be? Determine who hasn’t had their turn yet.
 
I think his point is that a few of the Q tards acted like it wasn't a big deal when New York and New Jersey were the issues and acted like the Red States would not have to deal with it.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...-cases-deaths/

I remember someone telling me on this board that they wouldn't see a huge difference in coronavirus cases distinguished between red and blue states.

that’s... a lot of red states at the top of the fastest growing per capita and overall per capita numbers.
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... and yet the states where per capita death rates are still leading the way have a decidedly blue hue:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/

* 6 of the top 7 states are Dark Blue states (excepting LA);
* 6 of the top 7 states have Dem governors (MA has a RINO)

None of the states mentioned by the Post or the Daily Beast are even close ...
 
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Kepler said:
Do not vote for stooopid people.
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Don't be a stupid person ^^
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https://medium.com/@oksensei66/weve-...g-1267ecfbe1b5

The PCR Test Distortion

The most widely used diagnostic test (the PCR test) gives a simple yes/no as to whether someone is infected. But similar PCR tests for other viruses try to peg how contagious a patient might be, by estimating how much of the virus is in the patient’s body currently. So, the challenge coming out of Harvard School of Public Health is why we would be so blinkered as to use only alleged “yes/no” data for everything: diagnosis, public policy, health guidelines, etc.

As Dr. Mina, epidemiologist at the Harvard School of Public Health states,
“It is the amount of virus that should dictate the infected patient’s next steps. It’s really irresponsible to forgo the recognition that this is a quantitative issue.”​

The Times quotes yet another eminent virologist, Angela Rasmussen of Columbia University, arguing that it is “mind blowing” that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests, but just reporting a “positive” and a “negative.” And what are the rest of us supposed to wonder about how much other “smoke” has been “blowing” all this while? As a commentator wrote,
“So the facts on the basis of which we knifed our civilization were not only hysterical, they may just have been non-existent?”​

Digging deeper, the CDC’s own calculations indicate a “live virus” in any sample with a threshold above 33 cycles is excessively difficult to detect.

never meant for “diagnosis” instead for “detection” and more.
 
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