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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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But we test too much. We need to not test. Wasn't that what you were moaning about a month ago Jebbers!?
 
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Pictured: Jeb trying to add to this discussion.
 
Jeb2020 said:
Don't be a stupid person ^^
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https://medium.com/@oksensei66/weve-...g-1267ecfbe1b5

The PCR Test Distortion

The most widely used diagnostic test (the PCR test) gives a simple yes/no as to whether someone is infected. But similar PCR tests for other viruses try to peg how contagious a patient might be, by estimating how much of the virus is in the patient’s body currently. So, the challenge coming out of Harvard School of Public Health is why we would be so blinkered as to use only alleged “yes/no” data for everything: diagnosis, public policy, health guidelines, etc.

As Dr. Mina, epidemiologist at the Harvard School of Public Health states,
“It is the amount of virus that should dictate the infected patient’s next steps. It’s really irresponsible to forgo the recognition that this is a quantitative issue.”​

The Times quotes yet another eminent virologist, Angela Rasmussen of Columbia University, arguing that it is “mind blowing” that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests, but just reporting a “positive” and a “negative.” And what are the rest of us supposed to wonder about how much other “smoke” has been “blowing” all this while? As a commentator wrote,
“So the facts on the basis of which we knifed our civilization were not only hysterical, they may just have been non-existent?”​

Digging deeper, the CDC’s own calculations indicate a “live virus” in any sample with a threshold above 33 cycles is excessively difficult to detect.

never meant for “diagnosis” instead for “detection” and more.
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This is stupid.... any moron knows it’s tOSU.
 
aparch said:
But we test too much. We need to not test. Wasn't that what you were moaning about a month ago Jebbers!?
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Good post, really adding to the discussion for Team #WetTheBed

we test more than anyone in the world by a large margin. That’s a fact, don’t know what to tell you.

And with how the PCR test is being applied it isn’t providing any valuable or reliable information.

but it is keeping a portion of the population scared, controllable and sucking their thumb.
 
Well Jeb, according to CNBC this morning, the person they interviewed about testing said that we're not testing enough, or fast enough, because of the bottleneck of testing laboratories.

There are plenty of labs with excess capacity to test, but there isn't a network to get tests shuttled around to those labs from the areas where testing is being delayed. Similar to the national electric grid being able to push electricity to regions that need it, but no one has organized the regional health departments to provide the same.

The big concern is when flu season hits this fall, the ability to test quickly across the nation needs to happen, and eight months into this pandemic, there has been ZERO work towards building up regional health networks.

So no one gives a sh** if testing anti-bodies, or virus tests are better. It's been eight months, and our federal government has sat on their thumbs during this.
 
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aparch said:
But we test too much. We need to not test. Wasn't that what you were moaning about a month ago Jebbers!?
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There is wayyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyy too much testing. We have a vaccine. Distribution will start in November. Trump told me.
 
Handyman said:
I think his point is that a few of the Q tards acted like it wasn't a big deal when New York and New Jersey were the issues and acted like the Red States would not have to deal with it.
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Nah, mainly it was that red states shitting the bed on this was both expected and not surprising.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
There is wayyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyy too much testing. We have a vaccine. Distribution will start in November. Trump told me.
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Nine companies have signed on that they refuse to release their vaccine until it successfully passes phase three testing with OUT "fast-tracking" or cutting corners.

As was eloquently said on CNBC: once again it's business leading the way in regards to listening to the science when the government won't.
 
aparch said:
Nine companies have signed on that they refuse to release their vaccine until it successfully passes phase three testing with OUT "fast-tracking" or cutting corners.

As was eloquently said on CNBC: once again it's business leading the way in regards to listening to the science when the government won't.
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If we stop the testing phase three would go a lot faster.
 
aparch said:
Nine companies have signed on that they refuse to release their vaccine until it successfully passes phase three testing with OUT "fast-tracking" or cutting corners.

As was eloquently said on CNBC: once again it's business leading the way in regards to listening to the science when the government won't.
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I think it was half brilliant PR and half "holy shit is the president serious" on the parts of the companies. All companies are risk-averse and bad PR from a problematic vaccine would be devastating. Moderna, for example, is trying an entirely new technology in their vaccine and while being among the first to market is important, getting it right is even more important. Them screwing up or releasing a bad vaccine would be extremely harmful to the entire field of vaccines.
 
Basic Bean Counter Analysis...if you come up with the vaccine first you will get that initial 3-4 days of high stock prices but much like with Eastman Kodak that only lasts for as long as the news is positive. You will lose it all if you rush something and it isnt the miracle needed.

This way you can still rush (because they are all still trying to win this game) but make it look like you care. Meanwhile all the corners you already cut and the games you play with the data will still happen people have just been primed to trust you now.
 
aparch said:
Nine companies have signed on that they refuse to release their vaccine until it successfully passes phase three testing with OUT "fast-tracking" or cutting corners.

As was eloquently said on CNBC: once again it's business leading the way in regards to listening to the science when the government won't.
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Cue tweet storm of how all companies are colliding to tank his re-election
 
The early costs of sturgis are staggering. South Dakota should pay big time.

the trolls I’ll ignore who think it’s no big deal can DIAF
 
Holy ****

We are further able to document national spread due to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, although that spread also appears to have been successfully mitigated by states with strict infection mitigation policies. In counties with the largest relative inflow to the event, the per 1,000 case rate increased by 10.7 percent after 24 days following the onset of Sturgis Pre-Rally Events. Multiplying the percent case increases for the high, moderate-high and moderate inflow counties by each county’s respective pre-rally cumulative COVID-19 cases and aggregating, yields a total of 263,708 additional cases in these locations due to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. Adding the number of new cases due to the Rally in South Dakota estimated by synthetic control (3.6 per 1,000 population, scaled by the South Dakota population of approximately 858,000) brings the total number of cases to 266,796 or 19 percent of 1.4 million new cases of COVID-19 in the United States between August 2nd 2020 and September 2nd 2020.
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Edit: WHoa...
If we conservatively assume that all of these cases were non-fatal, then these cases represent a cost of over $12.2 billion, based on the statistical cost of a COVID-19 case of $46,000 estimated by Kniesner and Sullivan (2020). This is enough to have paid each of the estimated 462,182 rally attendees $26,553.64 not to attend.
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