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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Kepler said:
And, assuming those parents are not sociopaths, that means those people you know are Dumpies who don't believe it's that big a deal because of what they've heard on the news.

I am very happy to live in a more educated and informed place and only wish all my loved ones did. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we are at risk from you.

Enjoy your freedom and I hope you and the people you care for don't get sick, because a metric sh-t ton of people who think the way you do have and will and, much more unfairly, they've also infected a whole bunch of people who knew better and whose only crime was to be in the wrong place when you did your reckless equivalent of epidemiological drunken driving and plowed into them.
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But it was up to those people to protect themselves.

Not Hovey's responsibility.
 
SJHovey said:
I wrote that poorly. What I was trying to say is that all of the parents that I've talked to want their kids back in school, even though that obviously means exposing the kids (and the rest of the family at home) to whatever diseases are running through the schools, including Covid. This includes parents who also happen to be teachers.

Any teachers that I know who don't have kids in school have pretty clearly stated that they want distance learning.
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Mookie doesn’t know nor has spoken to any of these parents.

perhaps they wish this the same way mookie wishes when he gets back tonight Halle berry is waiting for him in bed.
 
Slap Shot said:
What's infuriating are the narratives that teachers don't want to go back because they just don't want to work. The mind-numbingly stupid thought process behind such an opinion freaking boggles my mind.
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Agree 100%. All of the teachers I know want to do their job...just safely. Same with everyone in my hospital system. I really feel for those who work day in, day out in our COVID unit. I am a consultant there but the overall stress level is high for the short stops I make there. It is a big ask to work there every day.
 
aparch said:
Amazing pretzels Jeb! continues to twist himself into. "This thing is the flu! It will go away with summer heat! Stop being babies and get out doors and tounge punch each others fart boxes in large groups!"

Meanwhile actual scientific data continues to prove that this isn't a flu, summer heat/sun/outdoors didn't kill/lessen the virus, and large gatherings are still a prime spreader of this virus.

*clapping* Bravo Jeb! Continue to bravely p*ss into the wind!
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Who posted about the flu? Do you mean SARS?

Anyway this is over. All that is left is “cases.” Cases of younger, healthy, asymptomatic, people. Lmao.


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Beautiful August evening it was great to see all the kids out playing Ball at the multiple fields tonight. Had some Soccer going as well.

Fresh air, Sun light, exercise, human interaction. Doesn’t get any better than that.
 
WisconsinWildcard said:
Same. I know a fair number of teachers and not a single one thinks it is the best idea to go back. I have a good friend who is pregnant and teaches kindergarten who is being forced back for in person class. I have basically given her a crash course on PPE and got what I could for her to use (N95, face mask) because the school is only providing a surgical mask.

I expect it will last a week or two...at least that is my hope...before they go to virtual.
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I thought pregnancy comes with some grim prognoses if you get COVID.
 
Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
 
Kepler said:
And, assuming those parents are not sociopaths, that means those people you know are Dumpies who don't believe it's that big a deal because of what they've heard on the news.

I am very happy to live in a more educated and informed place and only wish all my loved ones did. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we are at risk from you.

Enjoy your freedom and I hope you and the people you care for don't get sick, because a metric sh-t ton of people who think the way you do have and will and, much more unfairly, they've also infected a whole bunch of people who knew better and whose only crime was to be in the wrong place when you did your reckless equivalent of epidemiological drunken driving and plowed into them.
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Did you even bother to read my post before responding? I simply reported what parents that I knew expressed to me.
 
leswp1 said:
Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
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Wondering the same thing. I’m also curious about liability if someone else gets injured because of negligence by the employer.

If I’m a company, I do everything legal to protect people from this because we just don’t know what’s going to happen when the lawsuits start. And they will.

And we certainly don’t know how a jury is going to react when they’re angry and fed up with being sent to the woodchipper by large corporations so CEO Fuckface can have another $100k in bonuses.
 
leswp1 said:
Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
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If someone was that hysterical about this why would they go back to work?

Would you rather a company come out and fire or furlough everyone?

You folks are absolutely bat sh*t crazy.
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
Agree 100%. All of the teachers I know want to do their job...just safely. Same with everyone in my hospital system.
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And who didn't want to do their jobs? Most of my trump-loving members. In March covid was a hoax to damage trump's reelection chances and nothing more than a good, old fashioned flu bug. Yet as soon as the congress passed all those juicy unemployment benefit upgrades, my members insisted they were not essential workers and their employers should shut down until the danger had passed. For two solid weeks I fielded one inquiry after another from a member who wanted to file grievances or charges against their employer for remaining operational and forcing them to come to work. Literally from some of the same people who told me it was a hoax weeks earlier so "my boy Biden" could get elected and turn the country over to the socialists.
 
leswp1 said:
Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
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Worker's compensation laws vary greatly from state to state, but even the most generous states are not looking to find employers liable for injury or illness an employee claims is related to or caused by work. The problem with finding an employer responsible is even with precise contract tracing and testing there really might not be any way to know where a person comes into contact with a virus. Most people do catch their colds or flu from home, work or school simply because that is where people spend almost 100% of their time. Well for the kids it USED to be school.

I doubt you will see a lot of people who suffer great expense and long term effects from covid-19 being able to successfully claim it under workers compensation insurance.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Wondering the same thing. I’m also curious about liability if someone else gets injured because of negligence by the employer.
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Most states (maybe all states?) go a long way to prevent employees being able to sue an employer for any kind of a workplace injury. Exceptions are pretty narrow and usually require either a willful or intentional act by the employer or gross negligence. Simple negligence usually means workers compensation is all you are entitled to. Some states allow people to waive in their entirety their rights to have injuries treated under workers compensation insurance in exchange for the right to bring a lawsuit against the company.

Yet another horrible thing states do is they race to the bottom to see who can have the least generous system so insurance rates and payroll taxes for the employer can be nice and low. States that advertises as a great place to "do business" usually have awful unemployment and workers compensation laws/rules. Which is stupid, because the states that do a better job (MN is a decent example) still have plenty of profitable businesses and manage to have plenty of fortune 500 type businesses working there.
 
Minnesota is actually a great example. More fortune x00 companies per capital than any state but NY or something like that.

extremely high standard of living meets “far, far away from the coasts”.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Wondering the same thing. I’m also curious about liability if someone else gets injured because of negligence by the employer.

If I’m a company, I do everything legal to protect people from this because we just don’t know what’s going to happen when the lawsuits start. And they will.

And we certainly don’t know how a jury is going to react when they’re angry and fed up with being sent to the woodchipper by large corporations so CEO ****face can have another $100k in bonuses.
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It's always projection from the right wingers
 
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