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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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The US federal government will no longer require hospitals to report the number of people who die from COVID-19 every day, according to new guidelines from the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).[/
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dxmnkd316 said:
False positives are extraordinarily rare. For antigen or PCR.
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If that is actually true (maybe it is), why was there so much emphasis on how someone could not / should not test for 90 days after infection?

When covid hit my family, we asked if we should test again after our 10 day quarantine to make sure and were told in no uncertain terms to definitely not because there was a good chance we would still test positive even though we were not infectious anymore.
 
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ericredaxe said:
If that is actually true (maybe it is), why was there so much emphasis on how someone could not / should not test for 90 days after infection?

When covid hit my family, we asked if we should test again after our 10 day quarantine to make sure and were told in no uncertain terms to definitely not because there was a good chance we would still test positive even though we were not infectious anymore.
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That's a good point. I'm not entirely sure, but I'm guessing it's for two reasons:
1. Because if you've had covid recently, the risk of a false positive is higher
2. Tests were once very limited. Not like "oh I can't find it all Walgreens" but "We aren't going to test because we can't afford to waste resources".

Tests were also used strictly to confirm covid for 2020 and most of 2021. Now they're being used as a gatekeeper for public health and to prevent additional shutdowns. At the public scale, the small number of false positives are a minor inconvenience compared to the cost of shutdowns or holding people out of work for 14 days.

If you can test negative after the shorter quarantine, it means you likely (but not certainly) don't have enough viral load to be considered contagious.

Ao your options are:
1. Sit at home for 10-14 days where we know with greater certainty that your viral load is low enough to not be contagious
2. Take a test at 5 days and if you're negative, great. If not stay home and test in another day or two, you weren't ready anyways.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
This has been labeled misinformation by a number of people I've read.

edit: here's a person who co-founded the COVID tracking project. She says this is BS.

https://twitter.com/kissane/status/1...636129282?s=21

This was just the HHS stopping daily updates, not the cdc.
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OK, thank you. I really hoped it was just Weekly Worker kicking up dust.

The glorious struggle for world socialism would go a lot better if our side would just stick to the facts.
 
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Kepler said:
OK, thank you. I really hoped it was just Weekly Worker kicking up dust.

The glorious struggle for world socialism would go a lot better if our side would just stick to the facts.
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But then you wouldn't get so mad and make a lot of angry clicks. Capitalism at it best.
 
MichVandal said:
But then you wouldn't get so mad and make a lot of angry clicks. Capitalism at it best.
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Karl Marx's concept of commodity fetishism (fetish here meaning "to imbue with mystical properties", it has nothing to do with sexual fetishes), goods sold in the marketplace under capitalism obscure the relationship between workers who create them for their use value. Despite believing that communism would ultimately do away with marketplaces, Marx actually loved the ideal of the marketplace as described by capitalist economists, wherein workers produce various things that are useful to other people and exchange them using money as a mediator, organically organizing labor for everyone's benefit. In theory, the baker would produce bread for everyone and the carpenter would build things, and the amount of labor put in would indicate the price of the good (this is called the labor theory of value, which he got from Adam Smith). For example, if people noticed that carpenters were making twice as much money as bakers, more people would become carpenters, diluting the market and eventually the amount of labor and money earned would equalize over time (it turns out some prices can't be explained this way, but it does explain a lot). The problem was, this marketplace doesn't exist, because there is a third person: the capitalist. Not only that, but he owns and controls everyone's labor. So commodities actually end up not being produced for use by other people at all and exchanged in a fair marketplace, they are produced solely for the capitalist's profit, and this only loosely corresponds to the wants and desires of the consumers. For example, supermarkets will throw away food that is expired, and actively guard the discarded food to prevent people from eating it (we saw this just recently in Portland during a Blizzard, where the police were preventing people from "looting" food that had been thrown away). This is completely irrational behavior, because the entire purpose of growing food was for human consumption. So why do they do it? Because it is "rational" for maximizing their profits: it keeps the price higher for the goods on the shelf (it's also irrational to want higher prices, rationally we should all want cheaper goods, but again the capitalist's interest is directly against that of society here). The market is distorted, and the goods themselves become distorted because capitalists (and even consumers in the end) only see the goods as having exchange value, in other words, I can exchange 80 oranges for 1 chair. Lost in all this, however, is why the oranges and chairs were produced to begin with. The capitalists themselves don't even care why they were produced, they only care if they will turn a profit, so the goods and services become mere abstractions to them. In this way, the rational market, which organizes specialized labor in a way to exchange it for other specialized labor to satisfy all of our needs can never, and will never exist under capitalism. At least according to Marx.
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"H5N6 bird flu is known to cause severe illness in humans of all ages and has killed nearly half of those infected, according to WHO. There are no confirmed cases of human-to-human transmission but a woman who tested positive in July 2021 denied having contact with live poultry."

jesus fuck

Hoping the quotes in that article are right about it not being able to havevH2H sustained spread.
 
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