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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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MichVandal said:
Not sure of the total system. It's just really interesting the variability of the side effects, just like the variability of the actual virus.
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Is this satire? LMAO

^ Has no idea how the vaccine works. But would undoubtably shout down any who asks a question about the new technology.

Secondly, the variability of the actual virus like who is susceptible? Holy Shit.

There is no variability, it attacks the very elderly that are sick already. That’s it.

No wonder the hysterics.

Let me guess, you have no clue that the Vaccines are not FDA approved?
 
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burd said:
Aren't these vaccines somewhat different from most in that they do not expose the person to the virus? Rather, they "trick" the body into thinking there's a contagion present?

I obviously don't have any scientific or medical knowledge to back that up.
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From what I have read yes this is exactly right. The Astra Zeneca one I believe is based on normal exposure type vaccination but the mRNA ones are as you describe.
 
Handyman said:
From what I have read yes this is exactly right. The Astra Zeneca one I believe is based on normal exposure type vaccination but the mRNA ones are as you describe.
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The AZ vaccine uses a modified adenovirus to deliver the instructions to building the spike protein.
 
MichVandal said:
Not sure of the total system. It's just really interesting the variability of the side effects, just like the variability of the actual virus.
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A DIFFERENT LOOK AT VAERS DATA. This time comparing mRNA against traditional flu vaccine & other vaccines. Focused on serious Event categories. Numbers not good. Wish there was independent body watching & reporting regularly, openly. That’s how safety management systems work.


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Dr. Mrs. Day 2 shot 1: horrible headache, aches all over body, tired.

I should note Dr. Mrs. never complains and has the pain tolerance of a block of lead, so... yikes.
 
Kepler said:
Dr. Mrs. Day 2 shot 1: horrible headache, aches all over body, tired.

I should note Dr. Mrs. never complains and has the pain tolerance of a block of lead, so... yikes.
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That sounds normal for day 2.

i see no reason to think how you react to shot is how you’d react to covid. With how widespread it is, many people have minor symptoms. Seems like a lot more people have pretty decent reactions after the shot.
 
Kepler said:
Dr. Mrs. Day 2 shot 1: horrible headache, aches all over body, tired.

I should note Dr. Mrs. never complains and has the pain tolerance of a block of lead, so... yikes.
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Doesn't she have an autoimmune disease? I think it would hit her hard
 
Kepler said:
Dr. Mrs. Day 2 shot 1: horrible headache, aches all over body, tired.

I should note Dr. Mrs. never complains and has the pain tolerance of a block of lead, so... yikes.
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My mom had some bad headaches the week after shot 1, but it should be noted she also took another shot the day after to get more iron in her blood since she has some anemia issues. She asked the doctor's office multiple times beforehand if the shot was OK with the vaccine, and the nurses/PAs said it was, and then after the headaches the doctor finally told her she probably shouldn't have done it. So she's avoiding any other medical stuff and PT until she gets shot 2 in a couple of weeks. Get that taken care of, then move on to other stuff (and at 74 there seems to always be other stuff to work on next!).
 
walrus said:
Doesn't she have an autoimmune disease? I think it would hit her hard
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She has MS. Her neurologist told her to of course immediately call her if there was any weirdness but she did not expect any deviance from the ordinary pattern of responses: no reason to think it would be any worse or better.
 
Over 50% of Republican men believe conspiratorial nonsense about vaccines. Facebook did a study and concluded the material pushing those conspiracies was sourced back to a few hundred users out of their 3.3 billion users.

Social media allows a handful of the worst people in the world to brainwash the dopes of the entire world. It is grift heaven.
 
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Kepler said:
Over 50% of Republican men believe conspiratorial nonsense about vaccines. Facebook did a study and concluded the material pushing those conspiracies was sourced back to a few hundred users out of their 3.3 billion users.

Social media allows a handful of the worst people in the world to brainwash the dopes of the entire world. It is grift heaven.
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If someone is healthy, had Covid and fully recovered...what does the vaccine do, that their immune system did not do?

Let’s hear what you’ve got?

Try not to go full Fascist on this one.
 
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BassAle said:
The AZ vaccine uses a modified adenovirus to deliver the instructions to building the spike protein.
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And Pfizer and Moderna use mRNA to get some of your cells to start producing recognizable parts of the spike protein as well. It is not remotely possible to become infected from these vaccines. The implications of this technology are astounding and go far beyond COVID.

The Spanish Flu Pandemic forever changed medicine and really helped usher the world into the modern era. I am convinced that, despite the bleatings of the idiots, the COVID pandemic will do the same. Just from my perspective on the IT/ambulatory care side of healthcare, things are not going back. Telehealth is here to stay. mRNA has been looked at as a cancer treatment for years, and now we have a (so far) wildly successful real life use case for it in another context. We've learned a lot about treating the very sick.

Hopefully, despite the best efforts of those same bleating idiots, some of the behavioral changes will stick too. Stop being a cementhead and going to work when you're sick (no one is impressed if you "tough it out" and infect your coworkers). If you are sick, kindly where a mask. Maybe we don't all need to be in the office all the time.
 
Swansong said:
The Spanish Flu Pandemic forever changed medicine and really helped usher the world into the modern era. I am convinced that, despite the bleatings of the idiots, the COVID pandemic will do the same. Just from my perspective on the IT/ambulatory care side of healthcare, things are not going back. Telehealth is here to stay. mRNA has been looked at as a cancer treatment for years, and now we have a (so far) wildly successful real life use case for it in another context. We've learned a lot about treating the very sick.

Hopefully, despite the best efforts of those same bleating idiots, some of the behavioral changes will stick too. Stop being a cementhead and going to work when you're sick (no one is impressed if you "tough it out" and infect your coworkers). If you are sick, kindly where a mask. Maybe we don't all need to be in the office all the time.
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Interesting. Why this one and not SARS or one of the others? Body count?

Epidemiologists have been warning about "The Next Big One" for a half century. Not some piddling 3M but billions. Have we averted a catastrophic Black Death by getting "lucky" with a midrange virus that killed under 10M?

Did we just meta-virus medicine itself? Was it even medicine or just having utter incompetence in government at the time of vulnerability? They used to say famines were not about food but about terrible regimes. Did America just pay the price for having a terrible regime when something important happened?
 
Jeb2020 said:
If someone is healthy, had Covid and fully recovered...what does the vaccine do, that their immune system did not do?

Let’s hear what you’ve got?

Try not to go full Fascist on this one.
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The same thing the second dose of one of the mRNA vaccines does. It stimulates your memory-B cells to produce antibodies. Other vaccines also use a two dose schedule to confer increased protection.

There is research suggesting that if you've already been infected with Covid, you probably only need one dose of Moderna or Pfizer for good protection. The CDC hasn't changed guidance yet, but it's definitely something that is being looked at. So it's likely that actual covid infection is equivalent to one dose of the vaccine, and does not protect as well on its own (but it likely does offer some protection).
 
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After half a million+ dead, is that idiot still seriously playing Trump Troll?

I guess its true, some people just refuse to learn.
 
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