Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[Kepler]

I think you are overthinking it. Even if you are right anyone who will hate Ellison over this hates him anyways for plenty of other reasons. (including prosecuting cops)

Exactly. The type of idiot who hates Ellison for enforcing public health also has the "conservative," racist, and Islamaphobe Bingo spots filled. Those folks can broil in their own filth.

 

[wolverineTrumpet]

Our numbers are getting "better" so I have no issues with Walz easing some restrictions. Restaurants should be a no go until at least January and only then if we are out of the woods.

Michigan's numbers have improved (fewer new cases) the last two weeks. It's almost as if the restrictions our Governor put in place, such as closing in person dining, helped to mitigate spread.

 

[SJHovey]

I think you are overthinking it. Even if you are right anyone who will hate Ellison over this hates him anyways for plenty of other reasons. (including prosecuting cops)

Yeah, possibly. Except normally no one hates the state AG because no one even knows who it is.

 

[Handyman]

Yeah, possibly. Except normally no one hates the state AG because no one even knows who it is.

Normally yes...but Ellison was high profile before he was AG and the Floyd case only made that worse.

 

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1339281622294728715

A Trump administration official sought to speed the spread of the coronavirus among children and young adults in order to achieve “herd immunity,” according to newly released documents: "We want them infected"

Well that is one way to go about it...

Paul Alexander, a senior adviser at the Department of Health and Humans Services, repeatedly encouraged adoption of a policy to increase the number of virus infections among younger Americans, saying they have “zero to low risk,” according to documents released by the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis.

In one email message, Alexander said “Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc” should be used “to develop herd…we want them infected,” according to the documents released Wednesday.

 

[Bronco]

Michigan's numbers have improved (fewer new cases) the last two weeks. It's almost as if the restrictions our Governor put in place, such as closing in person dining, helped to mitigate spread.

As I am told on Facebook by my idiot relatives, it's Big Gretch fixin' the numbers to make it look like them there numbrs are better!!!11!
(sigh)

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

As I am told on Facebook by my idiot relatives, it's Big Gretch fixin' the numbers to make it look like them there numbrs are better!!!11!
(sigh)

So what they're saying is, things are actually really bad and COVID isn't a hoax? ;-)

 

[Drew S.]

Brianna Keilar put together a highlight reel of some of Fox News’ greatest Covid hits and it is so good if you get a chance to watch it.

 

[dxmnkd316]

And most of them are owned by different people, so please don't mistake one for the other. The good ones are solid food, but the bad ones are West St. Paul...

Yeah, I knew they were all independent. An owner may have a few in their portfolio, but I only saw the one. I'm 90% sure this is the Cottage Grove location. That's the only one called Carbone's Kitchen & Pub. It was also my first guess as to which one. IIRC, they did a massive expansion a few years back. I imagine the bills didn't stop when pandemic hit. Too bad, too. I liked that location.

 

[Slap Shot]

Why does every conservative I know argue there is no evidence that restaurants are a catalyst for spread? Is there seriously a lack of data to justify they're continued closure, or is it out there front and center and they're ignoring it like everything else science related?

 

[dxmnkd316]

Long-term Covid-19 effects: The many strange symptoms, explained - Vox

Holy shit.

 

[MichVandal]

Long-term Covid-19 effects: The many strange symptoms, explained - Vox

Holy ****.

A very strong theory about Keyontae Johnson's collapse on the court was that he (and most of the Florida BB team) got infected with COVID19.

 

[Jeb2020]

Why does every conservative I know argue there is no evidence that restaurants are a catalyst for spread? Is there seriously a lack of data to justify they're continued closure, or is it out there front and center and they're ignoring it like everything else science related?

Oh look another person that has to let everyone know how much they love Science™ but ironically can provide so little information. There is no data on restaurants being major catalyst for spread, there are only models with absurd inputs.

Kind of like the absurd model used by the State of MN that projected 29,000 deaths to scare the p*ss out of people. The Minnesota covid model #MNmodel forecasts 29,000 deaths.

https://twitter.com/covid_clarity/st...24804099489793

Or like that Science™ putting new mandates in place after cases and hospitalizations had already peaked.

Or the fact that in the middle of an "all timer" you can hardly tell differences in hospitalization compared to other years.

Hospital red alert?

Headlines abound… MN officials have labeled the metro area as dangerously short on hospital beds.

In 2017, per MDH, metro hospitals averaged 4,208 beds in use.

Today, 3,910 beds are in use… that's 298 less than a typical non-covid year.

8 states that all peaked within 6 days of each other all with different levels of mandates and some with out any at all.

I will let you get back to your Science™

 

[rufus]

Another day, another 9/11 death count in America.

Had like five 9/11's in the last week.

 

[leswp1]

Long-term Covid-19 effects: The many strange symptoms, explained - Vox

Holy ****.

Thanks for sharing this. One of the best articles I have seen. Vox is not my usual media site but this was great- links with reputable sources etc.

 

[Jeb2020]

Thanks for sharing this. One of the best articles I have seen. Vox is not my usual media site but this was great- links with reputable sources etc.

Influenza virus-induced lung injury: pathogenesis and implications for treatment

For those still claiming the “longterm effects” are unique to #covid19 haven’t been paying attention to other viral illnesses.

https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/45/5/1463


Many viral illnesses including flu can cause longterm issues

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17497-6


Ground glass opacity is not a new term. It has been seen with flu. It’s important to understand this can be acute and resolve within months.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424870/


Influenza can damage the lungs though.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0717150302.htm


Chronic fatigue can be long lasting after other viral illnesses

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...619#what-is-it


Influenza A can cause longterm neurological issues.

https://t.co/o09vGqcyFa?amp=1


H1N1 found some cardiomyopathy after infection

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3405785/


And don’t forget influenza can be a beast. People have lived with it forever so we don’t think much of it. But many issues can happen according to the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm



So please, take a minute to educate yourself and make sure you aren’t passing hyperbole rather than fact. #flattenthefear

I do understand that this information was from a time prior to Science™ existing.

 

[Jeb2020]

Thanks for sharing this. One of the best articles I have seen. Vox is not my usual media site but this was great- links with reputable sources etc.

^^^^^^^The fight against COVID has given some people that very religious high of fighting in a cause bigger than themselves, a sense of purpose and moral goodness. It should be no surprise that some really don't want that to end.

 

[Handyman]

Another day, another 9/11 death count in America.

Had like five 9/11's in the last week.

More than that. Today is looking like it might be the deadliest of the Pandemic so far. Already at 3240 to rank #2...plus 213k new cases.

 

[Jeb2020]

Another day, another 9/11 death count in America.

Had like five 9/11's in the last week.

False.

You are seeing data being put into a dashboard, not actual deaths on one day. As more time goes on there are more dates to pull data from. That many people did not die today because of covid. Yet that is exactly what they have you believing, it is amazing they can do this and also sell you on being informed.

Deaths layer into the past and the last time we averaged 1000 deaths per day was back in August. We likely hit that mark again in November and December for a few weeks but you have to go back to APRIL to find a week where we averaged 3000 deaths / day.

 

[SJHovey]

Why does every conservative I know argue there is no evidence that restaurants are a catalyst for spread? Is there seriously a lack of data to justify they're continued closure, or is it out there front and center and they're ignoring it like everything else science related?

One of the things that you’re starting to hear a lot of in Minnesota right now is, yes, numbers in Minnesota are starting to drop with the restaurant restrictions in place. But in every state surrounding Minnesota numbers are dropping at similar or greater rates, and they don’t have restrictions. That’s a tough pill to swallow.