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RE: bars vs schools
It's a choice being made, and it's at the federal level. States are short on money and can't keep operating with such lowered revenues.
Bars and restaurants generate taxes and make money. Schools cost money.

If there were a serious attempt at a true relief package from the Federal Gov't we could start to get our priorities straight. As it is, states are forced to make bad choices to keep the doors open.
 
Stauber1 said:
RE: bars vs schools
It's a choice being made, and it's at the federal level. States are short on money and can't keep operating with such lowered revenues.
Bars and restaurants generate taxes and make money. Schools cost money.

If there were a serious attempt at a true relief package from the Federal Gov't we could start to get our priorities straight. As it is, states are forced to make bad choices to keep the doors open.
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Bars and restaurants have powerful professional associations that can bribe, beg your pardon, influence politicians to open. Schools not so much. Private schools are probably pitching it, but with public schools it is mixed with teachers' associations even attempting to protect their workers.
 
Kepler said:
Bars and restaurants have powerful professional associations that can bribe, beg your pardon, influence politicians to open. Schools not so much. Private schools are probably pitching it, but with public schools it is mixed with teachers' associations even attempting to protect their workers.
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I’m sorry, I didn’t realize the NEA disappeared
 
Stauber1 said:
RE: bars vs schools
It's a choice being made, and it's at the federal level. States are short on money and can't keep operating with such lowered revenues.
Bars and restaurants generate taxes and make money. Schools cost money.

If there were a serious attempt at a true relief package from the Federal Gov't we could start to get our priorities straight. As it is, states are forced to make bad choices to keep the doors open.
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Then the bars will be strung along as people continue to die and choose not to go to bars because the state is on fire. And the bars still die.
 
Wait, was trollbot really trying to educate people on how science works? How adorable. We are through the looking glass.
 
Yeah, the idea that our economy would continue to happily chug along without restrictions is ignoring what should be blindingly obvious and makes it obvious that people are either arguing in bad faith (like trollbot and others) or are just... insanely stupid (chuck).
 
We knew of this issue for 100 years. Maybe we knew before that. But definitely 100 years. The United States has failed it's mission to it's people.
 
alfablue said:
Do we REALLY need more incentives to take this seriously? By not, you back your government into a corner in terms of reaction- and you get the two bad choices- shut things down, or lots of people die.
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I was making this point in posts in May. Maybe April. The deniers and the RWNJ and the weak-willed pols afraid of ticking off trump all left us with those two choices. And it is still happening. You see it in WI and MI. Governors pleading with their republican legislatures to cooperate and compromise on SOMETHING. Yet they do nothing. So Whitmer in MI is left with one choice: shut things down again. The damage to the economy over and above what would have happened with even the best responses from government is ENTIRELY the fault of republicans and their voters. ENTIRELY. Had they agreed that there were some simple, basic FACTS to guide us, we could have slowed the spread, given our healthcare workers a break, opened a whole lot more schools this fall, and saved tens or dozens or maybe even hundreds of thousands of lives. All the while keeping the economy somewhat intact. Intact enough, by the way, that smaller, targeted stimulus packages would have allowed most people to keep their heads above water, and when this thing finally dies down, jump much quicker into a fully functioning economy. Again, this is ENTIRELY the fault of republican pols, their voters and anyone else who is a COVID-19 denier.
 
We have the greatest military in the world. The most prepared. The most equipped. Yet, somehow the same government that funds, trains, prepares, and manages that military has fucked up this pandemic every single fucking way it can be fucked up.

Our priorities are out of whack.
 
Keeping things open, or people dying? Hmmm, tough choice.

I vote for keeping things open. People dying, who cares? As long as it's not me, or my loved ones.

That's called "The Hovey Principle"
 
ScoobyDoo said:
We knew of this issue for 100 years. Maybe we knew before that. But definitely 100 years. The United States has failed it's mission to it's people.
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This bit is tiresome and wrong.

We are the United States. The Right is a cancer within but it is not the US.

We are doing as well as we can for our people. The cancer advances and retreats over time, and harms many people, but we, America, are a net force for good.

End the Right; save the world.
 
Kepler said:
This bit is tiresome and wrong.

We are the United States. The Right is a cancer within but it is not the US.

We are doing as well as we can for our people. The cancer advances and retreats over time, and harms many people, but we, America, are a net force for good.

End the Right; save the world.
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No. We're not. The plutocracy is the United States. Maybe we can get it back. Maybe we can't. They now control the Supreme Court for the next 50 years.
 
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