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Covfefe-19 The 11th Part: Suck It Up And Die Grandpa I Need A Manicure!!

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Kepler said:
Huh. That seems... bad. I would think a test threshold is a tradeoff between false positives and false negatives (alpha and beta error) and that you would want to really concentrate on reducing false negatives, which result in sick people spreading contagion, even at the cost of increasing false positives, which are inconvenient and maybe generate more costs for unnecessary follow-on treatment.

A test with no false negatives sounds to me like it is calibrated wrong.
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we've had a fair number of people that had to be re-tested, possibly because quality control metrics were not met for a particular batch of samples/tests -- I'm not sure of the specifics because i'm not involved in the testing.

False negatives is a concern to me because someone can be infected but not shedding virus in sufficient quantities yet.


One interesting thing is there are distinct regional differences in the virus genome in the US. It looks like like the virus made its way into the US from multiple sources and you can trace that lineage.
 
alfablue said:
especially if you are living with someone at risk- since it's clearly their fault they are at risk. gotta open up!

(I've grown tired if hearing the excuse of "pre-existing conditions" BS. As if that's some kind of excuse that makes it ok that a preventable death happens. IIRC, many accused the Jews of deserving and accepting what the Nazis did to them... It's amazing how similar things sound now.
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^^Absolutely Bat Sh*t Crazy^^

That is Loony Bin material.
 
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BassAle said:
I don't think the false positive rate of PCR tests is nearly as big of a problem as you want us to believe

my company has run thousands of PCR tests on asymptomatic people as part of the process to clear them to return to the office (I've been tested three times, and I don't even go to the office anymore but I am now cleared to do so if I needed to for some reason). There have been zero false positives.
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FDA issued an alert for a particular type of test that was returning false positives and recommended that if you tested + with those then you should retest with a different type of test. In the alert it said something to the effect it had not been ok'd (not the words they used) Of course if we were vetting the tests before they came out instead of panicking after screwing up the first distribution then we would actually have some sort of standard.
 
BassAle said:
I work at a biomedical research lab that is voluntarily running 20,000 Covid-19 PCR tests per day. We tested all 2,000 of our own employees multiple times and got zero false positives. False positives can happen, but the rate should be quite low. Thanks for the lecture though.
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Wasn’t a lecture. Just pointing out some of the well documented issues that have popped up with the testing.

And there was major testing issues with h1n1 in 2009.
 
You sir are an absolute jerk face and I would gladly dance on your grave after watching you gasp for your last Trumpvirus infected breath. Time for you to crawl back under the rock you emerged from. You serve no purpose here other then to repost tweets from the toothless crowd who spend time either posting or touching themselves while watching their El dumbo leader on fox.
 
Wayuphere said:
You sir are an absolute jerk face and I would gladly dance on your grave after watching you gasp for your last Trumpvirus infected breath. Time for you to crawl back under the rock you emerged from. You serve no purpose here other then to repost tweets from the toothless crowd who spend time either posting or touching themselves while watching their El dumbo leader on fox.
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ooh this one is feisty. What a hateful bunch.

Another one who gets bent out of shape about statistics. And makes numbers political.
 
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Wayuphere said:
You sir are an absolute jerk face and I would gladly dance on your grave after watching you gasp for your last Trumpvirus infected breath. Time for you to crawl back under the rock you emerged from. You serve no purpose here other then to repost tweets from the toothless crowd who spend time either posting or touching themselves while watching their El dumbo leader on fox.
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This is why the ignore feature is so helpful. When you run into someone who is sucking the O2 out of the room a couple of clicks (well, probably more now they have downgraded) and poof they are no longer renting space in your head. There are people who are ignorant because they have not been exposed to the facts- they are worth engaging. People who are missing a few synapses or are addicted to denial are not. I haven't used ignore in awhile until a few weeks ago. There are the obtuse- scroll by- and the waste of O2--> ignore
 
Jeb2020 said:
Because you have been calling me Whalers since I started posting here?

and it was a response to my post. Lol.

Rufus you might be one of the more special ones here. Giving Handyman a run for his money.

Are you going to start wearing a mask in your home when your Keepers tell you do? That’s a serious question.
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And, I respond to a post from 'whalers' and then 'Jeb' responds back.

Totally different people.
 
alfablue said:
So along with the not at all controversial shirts and shoes required, we now have masks. Big f-ing deal.

How ANYONE can complain about the mask because of whatever is moronic when looked at the whole impact. Besides, companies are private- if they want to kick you out because you wear a red hat, they can.

It's pretty funny how childish people can be when they double down on stupid. Masks work. done.
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I'm really surprised Donnie and Jared and all their friends haven't gotten into the mask production business.
 
rufus said:
I'm really surprised Donnie and Jared and all their friends haven't gotten into the mask production business.
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Not enough profit margin for one. But, unlike hydrocloraquine (however it’s spelled), masks actually work. dumpy inc is more about just being criminal.
 
71k new cases today...

Fl: 11422
TX: 9638
CA: 8764
GA: 4484
AZ: 4221
LA: 2642
TN: 1955
NC: 1830
SC: 1728
OH: 1551
AL: 1334
IL: 1327
MS: 1031
NV: 1024

Also deaths above 800 again today.
 
Had to go and get tested today after a) experiencing some mild symptoms (some chest discomfort, body aches, occasional shortness of breath) and b) finding out there was another confirmed positive case and 5 more pending cases from my workplace.

Was pretty easy to get a test, had to register online then head to a drive up testing site. Only wrinkle was the hour plus wait at the testing site. Now to wait 3-10 days for my results...
 
Handyman said:
71k new cases today...

Fl: 11422
TX: 9638
CA: 8764
GA: 4484
AZ: 4221
LA: 2642
TN: 1955
NC: 1830
SC: 1728
OH: 1551
AL: 1334
IL: 1327
MS: 1031
NV: 1024

Also deaths above 800 again today.
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I just don't know what to say. Especially to the tourist destinations in Florida. There are a lot more people than they think who are not coming due to the lack of control. I can vacation just fine here in Michigan this year, I guess.
 
Handyman said:
71k new cases today...

Fl: 11422
TX: 9638
CA: 8764
GA: 4484
AZ: 4221
LA: 2642
TN: 1955
NC: 1830
SC: 1728
OH: 1551
AL: 1334
IL: 1327
MS: 1031
NV: 1024

Also deaths above 800 again today.
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w00t!! my State isn't on that list today!! Our numbers are going up (my town is helping- deep red dodos!) but we are not over achieving.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Had to go and get tested today after a) experiencing some mild symptoms (some chest discomfort, body aches, occasional shortness of breath) and b) finding out there was another confirmed positive case and 5 more pending cases from my workplace.

Was pretty easy to get a test, had to register online then head to a drive up testing site. Only wrinkle was the hour plus wait at the testing site. Now to wait 3-10 days for my results...
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Good luck brother. I too am self isolating and waiting on a test result. A kid on the baseball team I coach has a positive test. One health provider was only willing to test me if I participated in the riots or was symptomatic. Another allowed me to get an appointment. 24hours to 7days for my results in MN.
 
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