What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Status
Not open for further replies.
rufus said:
Jan. 20, 2020. South Korea reports first case of Covfefe-19
US reports first case of Covfefe-19

April 1, 2020 Total cases in
South Korea. 9887
Number of deaths. 165

Total cases in
USA 211,143
number of deaths 4713.

South Korea had a test for the virus within a week of the first infection, and were testing 10,000 people a day.
Click to expand...
If only there was some way we could have seen this coming! [/sarcasm]
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

If one has time on their hands today, read this. It is a follow-up by Dr. Gorksi on his SBM post from Monday (that I posted on). There is some repeat of what he (and dx) covered already but he does a very good job expanding on what I was saying about the FDA. Essentially, the "emergency use" is political, not scientific.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/04/01/fda-eua-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19/

It is important to note that the papers we are seeing are not going through the regular peer review process (even papers in NEJM, Lancet). They are expedited to get the information out there, but that means you have to be extra skeptical. Normal turnaround time of several months is not acceptable either in these situations but I suspect many will be retracted in the years to come.

Also remember that physicians, nurses, etc are human. They have biases and get scared like the rest of humanity. I personally know physicians who have written for hydroxychloroquine for themselves or family and although I am profoundly disappointing in their reasoning, I do understand the motivation. I hope it does work but it is important to wait for appropriate evidence, especially with the risks. There are several other treatments currently under trial I think have a higher prior plausibility.

For those interested with some time on hand, this is an excellent book. https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Errors-Diagnostic-Mistakes-Case-Based/dp/3319932233 It is a bit pricey, but reads easily and is very enjoyable. It is a comprehensive guide to how physicians (and the regular public) make cognitive errors and I will be making it a must read for any trainees I oversee. It looks like a textbook but it honestly is not too dense and is very readable. I really wish I would have written it (although Dr. Howard does a far better job than I could).

Burd, I know you liked "Mistakes were made but not by me" so this may be right up your alley.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

WisconsinWildcard said:
If one has time on their hands today, read this. It is a follow-up by Dr. Gorksi on his SBM post from Monday (that I posted on). There is some repeat of what he (and dx) covered already but he does a very good job expanding on what I was saying about the FDA. Essentially, the "emergency use" is political, not scientific.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/04/01/fda-eua-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19/

It is important to note that the papers we are seeing are not going through the regular peer review process (even papers in NEJM, Lancet). They are expedited to get the information out there, but that means you have to be extra skeptical. Normal turnaround time of several months is not acceptable either in these situations but I suspect many will be retracted in the years to come.

Also remember that physicians, nurses, etc are human. They have biases and get scared like the rest of humanity. I personally know physicians who have written for hydroxychloroquine for themselves or family and although I am profoundly disappointing in their reasoning, I do understand the motivation. I hope it does work but it is important to wait for appropriate evidence, especially with the risks. There are several other treatments currently under trial I think have a higher prior plausibility.

For those interested with some time on hand, this is an excellent book. https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Errors-Diagnostic-Mistakes-Case-Based/dp/3319932233 It is a bit pricey, but reads easily and is very enjoyable. It is a comprehensive guide to how physicians (and the regular public) make cognitive errors and I will be making it a must read for any trainees I oversee. It looks like a textbook but it honestly is not too dense and is very readable. I really wish I would have written it (although Dr. Howard does a far better job than I could).

Burd, I know you liked "Mistakes were made but not by me" so this may be right up your alley.
Click to expand...

Thanks for this.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Another BS headline. Times is on a roll. It’s trump voters

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s weird that this piece frames the attacks on Fauci as coming from “online conspiracy theorists” when they mean “Trumpist fanatics who perceive him as disloyal.” <a href="https://t.co/nl6QBCwGOD">https://t.co/nl6QBCwGOD</a> <a href="https://t.co/zM32j3fTUa">pic.twitter.com/zM32j3fTUa</a></p>— Adam Serwer🍝 (@AdamSerwer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/1245679847646605312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rare that you see such a pure distillation of scientific ignorance, insensitivity, and bigotry in a single tweet. Or maybe not so rare anymore. <a href="https://t.co/bLA5clzqUj">https://t.co/bLA5clzqUj</a></p>— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) <a href="https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/1245538248677642240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rare that you see such a pure distillation of scientific ignorance, insensitivity, and bigotry in a single tweet. Or maybe not so rare anymore. <a href="https://t.co/bLA5clzqUj">https://t.co/bLA5clzqUj</a></p>— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) <a href="https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/1245538248677642240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Click to expand...

I love how Christianity has been a textbook example of hipocricy for 2000+ years now :p
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">...It wouldn’t matter if you got ten times what was needed, it would never be good enough. Unlike other states, New York unfortunately got off to a late start. You should have pushed harder. Stop complaining & find out where all of these supplies are going. Cuomo working hard!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1245696907718078465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

What a leader, thank god we didn’t elect that *****

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">President Trump accuses some states of having “insatiable appetites” for medical supplies during this pandemic and being “never satisfied.” <a href="https://t.co/Cg3Ds8jVIL">https://t.co/Cg3Ds8jVIL</a></p>— Eamon Javers (@EamonJavers) <a href="https://twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/1245703292178530304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I hope there’s a special place in hell for the whole family

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">....have been stocked up and ready long before this crisis hit. Other states are thrilled with the job we have done. Sending many Ventilators today, with thousands being built. 51 large cargo planes coming in with medical supplies. Prefer sending directly to hospitals.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1245701859697967105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I hope there’s a special place in hell for the whole family

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">....have been stocked up and ready long before this crisis hit. Other states are thrilled with the job we have done. Sending many Ventilators today, with thousands being built. 51 large cargo planes coming in with medical supplies. Prefer sending directly to hospitals.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1245701859697967105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Click to expand...

The Federal Government is back up for them? So the States are supposed to run their own pandemic teams? What in the **** is he talking about?
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

<img src=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUmcDWkWAAIXDej.jpg width=600>.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

The look on this bishes face

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How to ensure you don't get follow-up questions on Fox, apparently. <a href="https://t.co/nOUqw4ZVhO">pic.twitter.com/nOUqw4ZVhO</a></p>— Ben Smith (@benyt) <a href="https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1245529084534366208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">if you live in a state the president won, congratulations, the White House thinks your life might be worth saving <a href="https://t.co/8TyFFmngaw">https://t.co/8TyFFmngaw</a></p>— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1245709166691393537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
ScoobyDoo said:
The Federal Government is back up for them? So the States are supposed to run their own pandemic teams? What in the **** is he talking about?
Click to expand...

Not his responsibilty.

He's only the ****in' President of the United States!!!

Why wasn't the federal government stocked up and ready, prepared for what was coming?

Oh yeah, hoax.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

rufus said:
Jan. 20, 2020. South Korea reports first case of Covfefe-19
US reports first case of Covfefe-19

April 1, 2020 Total cases in
South Korea. 9887
Number of deaths. 165

Total cases in
USA 211,143
number of deaths 4713.

South Korea had a test for the virus within a week of the first infection, and were testing 10,000 people a day.
Click to expand...

Don't worry, this will all be Obama's fault somehow.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Always the same as-sholes.

<img src=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUmcDWkWAAIXDej.jpg width=600>

<img src="https://cnx.org/resources/4f8a36945af3021799b19c931ae6d2613a3bd180/CNX_History_28_05_Brown.jpg" width=600>

<img src="https://otb.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/USA-CSA-Map.jpg" width=550>

<img src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/scaled/2014/05/20/article-2633230-1E0426D800000578-175_636x382.jpg" width=700>

This nation carries a cancer in its belly.
 
Last edited:
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">here is what I have to say about these two maps: the first one lacks a ton of context that the second one includes. if you're using the first map to make sweeping judgments about the South, please rethink. I'll explain. <a href="https://t.co/crzBAPSd45">pic.twitter.com/crzBAPSd45</a></p>— Olivia Paschal (@oliviacpaschal) <a href="https://twitter.com/oliviacpaschal/status/1245711609890320386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top