Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

[Handyman]

But if it weren't for Hillary's emails how else would we have learned about her dastardly top secret plot to make risotto!

Risotto is Italian...FASCIST! Like Obama and his Muslim Fistbump and having gangsta rappers like Common at the WH.

 

[aparch]

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I keep seeing people on FB think that the government is graciously creating $1200 to give to people. I've pointed out to a few acquaintances that it's really just a credit on the 2020 tax return but it falls on deaf ears.


Also seeing the humble brag from the same people trying to justify that a one time shot of $1200 is perfect because it's the Federal minimum wage ($7.25) x 40 hours x 4 weeks. ($1,160)




For the record, the recovery check would not be enough to pay my mortgage this month.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I keep seeing people on FB think that the government is graciously creating $1200 to give to people. I've pointed out to a few acquaintances that it's really just a credit on the 2020 tax return but it falls on deaf ears.


Also seeing the humble brag from the same people trying to justify that a one time shot of $1200 is perfect because it's the Federal minimum wage ($7.25) x 40 hours x 4 weeks. ($1,160)




For the record, the recovery check would not be enough to pay my mortgage this month.

Doesn't cover my rent either...

 

[geezer]

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I quit FB completely about 16 months ago and have not missed it even a little bit. I advise everyone just to get away from it. I do have Instagram for a very carefully curated exposure to my close relatives pics of children and skiing and so on.
However, my understanding is that the 1200 isn’t going to be added to the taxes you normally pay (nor taken out of your normal refund). They’ll just create a “Coronavirus tax credit” to tack on next year, to square the books. Most people will have received it a year ahead of time (later this month) but the irs will make it up to whoever they miss in 2020, a year from now.

 

[Handyman]

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Passed 4000 dead...gonna be well over 190k cases tomorrow.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Estimates Show Wuhan Death Toll Far Higher Than Official Figure <a href="https://t.co/TJ8cJOv9Ew">https://t.co/TJ8cJOv9Ew</a></p>— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1245170668020338688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Kepler]

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US deaths, n > 10:

3/15	 12
3/16	 18
3/17	 23
3/18	 40
3/19	 56
3/20	 49
3/21	 46
3/22	113
3/23	141
3/24	225
3/25	247
3/26	268
3/27	400
3/28	525
3/29	363
3/30	573
3/31	912

 

[Slap Shot]

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There was a study reported in The Lancet a day or two ago that suggested the death rate may be only a third of that, for what it's worth. I know Handy won't like it because it references the Diamond Princess.

I wouldn't use necessarily use the Diamond Princess as a case study for society at large.

He and Kenji Mizumoto, an epidemiologist at Kyoto University in Japan, report in Infectious Disease Modelling3 that the day the quarantine was introduced, one person could go on to infect more than 7 others. The infection rate was probably quite high because people were living in close quarters and touching surfaces contaminated with the virus, says Chowell.

But after people were confined to their rooms, the average number of others to whom one infected person passed the virus dropped below one. This suggests that the quarantine averted a lot of infections, says Chowell. However, it wasn’t perfect: passengers could still infect their room-mates and crew members, he says.

Although insights from the ship about the virus’s spread and severity are valuable, it is difficult to draw lessons from its quarantine for those countries implementing similar lockdown measures, says Ioannidis. “A whole country is not a ship.”

 

[rufus]

They’ll need hackers or John Roberts to help.

They have 'em.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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“Hey, we heard you guys have equipment. Would you be willing to give us some?”

“Umm... we do, but do you mean the equipment you just sent us?”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last week, a Trump admin official working to secure PPE for US health workers asked Thai officials for help—only to be informed by the puzzled Thai officials that a US shipment of the same supplies, the 2nd of 2 so far, was already on its way to Bangkok <a href="https://t.co/Oqxu09H3hd">https://t.co/Oqxu09H3hd</a></p>— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) <a href="https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1245174960580108290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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I wouldn't use necessarily use the Diamond Princess as a case study for society at large.

Correct. But it's the closest we have to a controlled experiment you're ever going to get. So, I wouldn't just dismiss the findings from those studies either.

 

[Handyman]

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Correct. But it's the closest we have to a controlled experiment you're ever going to get. So, I wouldn't just dismiss the findings from those studies either.

True although you can use other ships (like the one off Panama, or say the Navy ship) to basically show the Diamond Princess is more likely a fluke than evidence of anything. So no you dont dismiss it, but you dont give it as much weight as the "Media is Overblowing This" crowd give it.

Kepler,

So before the Right Wing pivot (right around my birthday) one of the talking points was how this wasnt a big deal and how H1N1 killed 12k people (1k a month!!) and no one gave Obama hell for it. (liberal bias and all) So much for that...this virus has killed a third of that (that we know of) in less than a month. Hell yesterday alone was equal to one month.

And the scary thing is we have yet to hit the peaks most places including NY. (next week) By the time we get to the end of the month when Cali and a bunch of other states hit their peaks I shudder to think what the numbers will look like.

 

[SJHovey]

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I wouldn't use necessarily use the Diamond Princess as a case study for society at large.

With respect to the Diamond Princess reference, I'm not a doctor or an epidemiologist or a medical researcher or anything of the sort, so the significance of the Diamond Princess data to me is at best a layperson's view. I referenced the Diamond Princess in my original quote as I responded to Kepler only because Diamond Princess was referred to in the article and I know from past experience that Diamond Princess may act as some sort of triggering mechanism for our friend Handy, so I didn't want to post something that referred to Diamond Princess in it without letting everyone, including Handy, know that Diamond Princess references showed up in the report so if Diamond Princess causes some sort of adverse reaction they would be forewarned about the presence of Diamond Princess in the Lancet study.

 

[Handyman]

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Again the Diamond Princess isnt the problem. The problem is the jackoffs at Faux and the rest of the Murdoch Empire pretending it means what they hope it does. The fact that a guy also used China's lies to also prove his point only hurts his claims. (as more info from China is released) Yes I get triggered when bad science is used to try and fleece the public and put millions at risk. Sue me.

Speaking of Faux:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fox failed my mother and countless others of its fans. While we can joke all we want about the “Fair and Balanced” motto, it’s a very low bar to simply give your audience decent health information. Opinion | Fox’s Fake News Contagion ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/nytopinion?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytopinion</a>⁩ <a href="https://t.co/yRPC3Hmk6k">https://t.co/yRPC3Hmk6k</a></p>— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) <a href="https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1245157032593940480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[SJHovey]

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I'm sure there will be innumerable fascinating studies to come out of this pandemic, but I saw an interview with a researcher from, I think, the Mayo Clinic. He said one thing they are looking at is a possible link between generally poor vaccination rates in an area and how quickly and severely that area may be hit by Covid-19.

He said (and I have no idea if any of this is true) that Italy has historically had one of the poorest vaccination rates in Europe. In the US, NYC, New Jersey, Louisiana, Georgia, and Michigan have all had poor vaccination rates. Historically one of the worst counties has been King County in the State of Washington, where the virus hit first and most severely.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boston Globe editorial board says Trump has "blood on his hands" over coronavirus <a href="https://t.co/FCAnTCG079">https://t.co/FCAnTCG079</a> <a href="https://t.co/ncpJ7FNrLm">pic.twitter.com/ncpJ7FNrLm</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1245334617672073218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boston Globe editorial board says Trump has "blood on his hands" over coronavirus <a href="https://t.co/FCAnTCG079">https://t.co/FCAnTCG079</a> <a href="https://t.co/ncpJ7FNrLm">pic.twitter.com/ncpJ7FNrLm</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1245334617672073218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I have to agree.

 

[Handyman]

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I'm sure there will be innumerable fascinating studies to come out of this pandemic, but I saw an interview with a researcher from, I think, the Mayo Clinic. He said one thing they are looking at is a possible link between generally poor vaccination rates in an area and how quickly and severely that area may be hit by Covid-19.

He said (and I have no idea if any of this is true) that Italy has historically had one of the poorest vaccination rates in Europe. In the US, NYC, New Jersey, Louisiana, Georgia, and Michigan have all had poor vaccination rates. Historically one of the worst counties has been King County in the State of Washington, where the virus hit first and most severely.

That is interesting...but I am not sure they will ever be able to show a causal link between the two things. Unless one of the vaccines somehow adds immunity for COVID...boy would that cheese off the Anti-Vaxxers

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the most powerful politicians in New Jersey —> <a href="https://t.co/VI90Hhzreh">https://t.co/VI90Hhzreh</a></p>— Matt Katz (@mattkatz00) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattkatz00/status/1245337420867960833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">About 70 students from the University of Texas chartered a plane to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, in late March. On Tuesday, Austin public health officials announced more than a third of the young people who took the trip had tested positive for the coronavirus. <a href="https://t.co/PDB9dUiAf6">https://t.co/PDB9dUiAf6</a></p>— Eugene Scott (@Eugene_Scott) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/status/1245335798255431682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>