Covfefe-19 - Part 4- Stay the **** Home

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The good news is, it seems 3/4 of the country isn't big on the idea of killing grandma to own the libs.

 

[mookie1995]

Holy hell. The toddler is tired of sitting inside.

We’re going to kill tens of thousands of Americans because trump is somehow bored with a pandemic.

Let’s send some pu$$y into the WH for him to grab

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

If we had testing on the level of South Korea, this might mean something. With testing ramping up, but still nowhere near what it should be, extrapolating these numbers to push any narrative is tricky. LA is in a shelter-in-place, so that should help keep their numbers down. The only states listed here that should be really worried, if the Coronavirus Act Now website is anywhere near accurate, are MS, AL, and TN, where the state has taken "limited action" to combat the outbreak. Since the only thing that can be done at this point is social distancing through closing of non-essential businesses, etc., LA did exactly what they're supposed to do, while MS, AL, and TN have done nothing. GA, AR, FL (now), and SC have all implemented social distancing measures, similar to states like MN, VA, and ME.

Those numbers are high with limited testing- and the three states got mentioned with limited action are going to be hurting.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Covfefe-19 - Part 4- Stay the **** Home

Holy hell. The toddler is tired of sitting inside.



We’re going to kill tens of thousands of Americans because trump is somehow bored with a pandemic.

Can’t link out of cnn’s app.... w t f

Is he out of coloring books and Superman comics?

 

[Kepler]

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5 or 6 days old seems like ancient text in some ways, but since I missed this update when it came out, I thought others might have also (sorry if already posted, but it’s must-read)
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

It looks like we did Mitigation.

 

[Kepler]

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If we had testing on the level of South Korea, this might mean something. With testing ramping up, but still nowhere near what it should be, extrapolating these numbers to push any narrative is tricky. LA is in a shelter-in-place, so that should help keep their numbers down. The only states listed here that should be really worried, if the Coronavirus Act Now website is anywhere near accurate, are MS, AL, and TN, where the state has taken "limited action" to combat the outbreak. Since the only thing that can be done at this point is social distancing through closing of non-essential businesses, etc., LA did exactly what they're supposed to do, while MS, AL, and TN have done nothing. GA, AR, FL (now), and SC have all implemented social distancing measures, similar to states like MN, VA, and ME.

Right now, if you look at the states with the fewest cases per capita those are the ones that will eventually have the highest death rate, because those are the states that aren't testing. And Dump and Wall Street are trying their best to ensure those states are red.

Which, ...

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Collin County TX just issued an executive order and this bit right here is pure madness: <a href="https://t.co/pCXsR5Sn3A">pic.twitter.com/pCXsR5Sn3A</a></p>— Jason P. Steed (@5thCircAppeals) <a href="https://twitter.com/5thCircAppeals/status/1242545220715196419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huh, imagine that. <a href="https://t.co/5yIFXyYJMh">pic.twitter.com/5yIFXyYJMh</a></p>— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) <a href="https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1242797364118728704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Kepler]

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prince charles +

The unluckiest man in the world.

 

[joecct]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Collin County TX just issued an executive order and this bit right here is pure madness: <a href="https://t.co/pCXsR5Sn3A">pic.twitter.com/pCXsR5Sn3A</a></p>— Jason P. Steed (@5thCircAppeals) <a href="https://twitter.com/5thCircAppeals/status/1242545220715196419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Or, we need the tax revenues to survive. We keep you alive to serve the State. Row well and live.

 

[Kepler]

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Row well and live.

Quality reference.

 

[psych]

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Those numbers are high with limited testing- and the three states got mentioned with limited action are going to be hurting.

It's really hard, if not impossible, to say just how high those numbers are with the limited testing that has been done. Were they testing on a level similar to NY even was a week ago? I mean, what this chart basically says is that the virus is EVERYWHERE, whether it's North, South, East, or West. So, that said, ANY state that has taken limited action is going to be hurting. Like, all of us on here know the virus is everywhere, and we all agree that testing hasn't been nearly expansive enough to know just how much its penetrated certain states. The Coronavirus Act Now website basically says anything other than shelter-in-place orders won't be enough to keep the spike underneath available hospital beds. According to that website, if all else stays the same, LA is currently good. And, NY may miraculously pull through, despite running out of almost everything, which f-cking sucks. Obviously, as the website itself points out, it's just a predictive model, not a guarantee of what will transpire.

I know I've read in a few different places that it's hard to distinguish what exactly constitutes a shelter-in-place order. I know my governor, Andy Beshear, has said his order is basically a shelter-in-place order, but that he wants to call it "Healthy At Home" instead. But, according to the Coronavirus Act Now website, Kentucky is considered a social distancing state, not a shelter-in-place state, despite closing all non-essential businesses and strongly encouraging people to stay at home for anything other than essential jobs or essential shopping. Does the governor actually have to call it "shelter-in-place" for it to be interpreted that way?

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whom do you trust for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> info:<br><br>Dems:<br><br>CDC 87%<br>Your governor 75%<br>National media 72%<br>Friends/family 72%<br>Religious leaders 44%<br>Trump 14%<br><br>Republicans:<br><br>Trump 90%<br>CDC 84%<br>Friends/family 81%<br>Religious leaders 71%<br>You governor 65%<br>National media 13%<br><br>-CBS/YouGov</p>— Ali Velshi (@AliVelshi) <a href="https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1242795405517217801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Also posted in the POTUS thread, but what a division.

 

[psych]

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Right now, if you look at the states with the fewest cases per capita those are the ones that will eventually have the highest death rate, because those are the states that aren't testing. And Dump and Wall Street are trying their best to ensure those states are red.

Which, ...

Those states won't have the highest death rate because they aren't testing. They'll have the highest death rate because most of them generally have the unhealthiest people living there, like AL/MS, which have the highest proportion of smokers, obese people, diabetes, heart problems, etc. This is something I've always agreed with lewsp1 and others on here. At this point, by the time testing gets to where it needs to be, it's probably too late. I'm not saying we shouldn't still be testing, but it's clear enough that shelter-in-place is the only way to effectively stop the spread. Since red states have had more time to prepare since this seemingly has hit blue states like WA, NY, and CA first, if they're still in the "limited action" zone, like 9 red states still are at this point, that's disgraceful. Where I've disagreed with basically everyone on this board is that all southern states, or all red states, not just particular ones, are not doing enough to prepare for this pandemic. The BEST thing any red state can do is shelter-in-place, or at least social distance, just like any blue state, just like ANYWHERE on the planet. Your state, VA, according to Coronavirus Act Now, has not implemented a shelter-in-place yet. Your state will be f-cked between 4/18-4/23 if it doesn't switch to a shelter-in-place. MN, where many posters here are from and where I'm originally from, is f-cked between 4/26-5/1. I hope MN, VA, and other social distancing states switch to shelter-in-place ASAP.

 

[alfablue]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whom do you trust for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> info:<br><br>Dems:<br><br>CDC 87%<br>Your governor 75%<br>National media 72%<br>Friends/family 72%<br>Religious leaders 44%<br>Trump 14%<br><br>Republicans:<br><br>Trump 90%<br>CDC 84%<br>Friends/family 81%<br>Religious leaders 71%<br>You governor 65%<br>National media 13%<br><br>-CBS/YouGov</p>— Ali Velshi (@AliVelshi) <a href="https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1242795405517217801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Also posted in the POTUS thread, but what a division.

It will be interesting to see the results of that thinking over Easter weekend.

It would be awesome if dumpy is right, and we can all get back on track that weekend, but I have not seen any data to support that- as even states that are doing SIP rules have not yet slowed down deaths.

 

[Kepler]

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Those states won't have the highest death rate because they aren't testing. They'll have the highest death rate because most of them generally have the unhealthiest people

Nope. The latter will help but it will also be offset by their huge advantage in population density. The former will drive the death rate up. They aren't taking it seriously because Freedumb or Dump or Hannity or all of the above. So their curves flatten last.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The fact that 44% of Democrats trust their religious leaders for guidance on dealing with a matter of public health tells me there are a lot of stupid Democrats out there, too.

 

[Kepler]

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The fact that 44% of Democrats trust their religious leaders for guidance on dealing with a matter of public health tells me there are a lot of stupid Democrats out there, too.

My guess is 90% of those Democrats are POC.

Religious leaders in non-white low income communities are a very different breed of cat. They are essentially community activists / political leaders. They might be the best source of information those people have. It's not about a hotline to the Man in the Sky, it's about loyalty to the community and trust -- the only person with a scintilla of authority who won't f-ck them over.

Who else they gonna believe? The cops? The bank?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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My guess is 90% of those Democrats are POC.

Religious leaders in non-white low income communities are a very different breed of cat. They are essentially community activists / political leaders. They might be the best source of information those people have. It's not about a hotline to the Man in the Sky, it's about loyalty to the community and trust -- the only person with a scintilla of authority who won't f-ck them over.

Who else they gonna believe? The cops? The bank?

You're probably right. *sigh*

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

It's really hard, if not impossible, to say just how high those numbers are with the limited testing that has been done. Were they testing on a level similar to NY even was a week ago? I mean, what this chart basically says is that the virus is EVERYWHERE, whether it's North, South, East, or West. So, that said, ANY state that has taken limited action is going to be hurting. Like, all of us on here know the virus is everywhere, and we all agree that testing hasn't been nearly expansive enough to know just how much its penetrated certain states. The Coronavirus Act Now website basically says anything other than shelter-in-place orders won't be enough to keep the spike underneath available hospital beds. According to that website, if all else stays the same, LA is currently good. And, NY may miraculously pull through, despite running out of almost everything, which f-cking sucks. Obviously, as the website itself points out, it's just a predictive model, not a guarantee of what will transpire.

I know I've read in a few different places that it's hard to distinguish what exactly constitutes a shelter-in-place order. I know my governor, Andy Beshear, has said his order is basically a shelter-in-place order, but that he wants to call it "Healthy At Home" instead. But, according to the Coronavirus Act Now website, Kentucky is considered a social distancing state, not a shelter-in-place state, despite closing all non-essential businesses and strongly encouraging people to stay at home for anything other than essential jobs or essential shopping. Does the governor actually have to call it "shelter-in-place" for it to be interpreted that way?

With the churches down south still having huge congregations late because this was a “hoax” I assure you it’s very high counts in these backwater areas with low hospital capacity.