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Covfefe-19 - Part 4- Stay the **** Home

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The Rube said:
IIRC, even the N95 masks are only good for a couple hours? And that still may be an optimistic view?
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I don’t think we have that data. Depends on the mask. Depends on the conditions. Depends on the fit. Depends on how much movement and the range of movement. Depends on a lot of things.

I’ve used them very effectively for fall cleanup, sweating profusely, lots of movement, for 12 hours. Allergies never kicked in and face was clean of dirt. This isn’t even really comparable to hospital use though. Viruses are usually much smaller and the masks still only stop 95% of particles. Front line people should be using N100s or PAPRs. They’re expensive and aren’t anywhere near widely distributed. Even then, N100s are only 99.x% effective and only if used correctly.

What’s all this mean? Nothing. Something is better than nothing. But it’s still only going to slow things down. They need to be changed properly and often to help prevent spread.

Edit: oh, and some masks have time limits but those are usually gas cartridges used to block things like acids and organics.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I don’t think we have that data. Depends on the mask. Depends on the conditions. Depends on the fit. Depends on how much movement and the range of movement. Depends on a lot of things.

I’ve used them very effectively for fall cleanup, sweating profusely, lots of movement, for 12 hours. Allergies never kicked in and face was clean of dirt. This isn’t even really comparable to hospital use though. Viruses are usually much smaller and the masks still only stop 95% of particles. Front line people should be using N100s or PAPRs. They’re expensive and aren’t anywhere near widely distributed. Even then, N100s are only 99.x% effective and only if used correctly.

What’s all this mean? Nothing. Something is better than nothing. But it’s still only going to slow things down. They need to be changed properly and often to help prevent spread.

Edit: oh, and some masks have time limits but those are usually gas cartridges used to block things like acids and organics.
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Gotcha. And I agree something is better than nothing, had some concrete work done a bit ago at my building, LOTS of that dust floating around (there was actually a haze) and those (the N95s) are the masks my company requisitioned for my co-worker and me. Obviously a different level than a virus, but they did do the job, short-term.
 
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The Rube said:
Gotcha. And I agree something is better than nothing, had some concrete work done a bit ago at my building, LOTS of that dust floating around (there was actually a haze) and those (the N95s) are the masks my company requisitioned for my co-worker and me. Obviously a different level than a virus, but they did do the job, short-term.
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We have to get fit tested every year using vaporized droplets that can be detected by taste. Sounds weird but this is how we make sure we can wear them given the shape of our face. We get put inside a big hood, they spray, and we have to do several repetitions of that doing things like lifting our head up and down for a minute, side to side, walking in place, jogging, speaking, etc.

There’s another test we have to do for full face masks.

Suffice it to say, they work. As long as you’re trained and understand the risks and applications.
 
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The Rube said:
Gotcha. And I agree something is better than nothing, had some concrete work done a bit ago at my building, LOTS of that dust floating around (there was actually a haze) and those (the N95s) are the masks my company requisitioned for my co-worker and me. Obviously a different level than a virus, but they did do the job, short-term.
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Side note: OSHA changed the rules three years ago and require that any time there is a creation of silica dust (ie: concrete saw cutting) that the dust must be limited by either water or ventilation, or respirators used (and not just masks). Obviously hard to enforce.
 
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aparch said:
Side note: OSHA changed the rules three years ago and require that any time there is a creation of silica dust (ie: concrete saw cutting) that the dust must be limited by either water or ventilation, or respirators used (and not just masks). Obviously hard to enforce.
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We had the ventilation covered, it was more of a comfort thing and a request by me and my co-worker. So, in essence, we felt the minimum was not enough, hence the requisition.
 
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The Rube said:
We had the ventilation covered, it was more of a comfort thing and a request by me and my co-worker. So, in essence, we felt the minimum was not enough, hence the requisition.
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The ventilation has to remove the dust from the area. Has nothing to do with your buildings ventilation.
 
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The Rube said:
We had the ventilation covered, it was more of a comfort thing and a request by me and my co-worker. So, in essence, we felt the minimum was not enough, hence the requisition.
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Why are they charging $7/mask?????? I’m.....I just can’t. What is wrong with these companies???
 
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Holy sh—t. Rand Paul was tested 6-7 days ago. Six to seven ****ing days ago. He’s been on his daily routines for a week with covid. The senate is in real ****ing trouble.




Scarlet said:
Why are they charging $7/mask?????? I’m.....I just can’t. What is wrong with these companies???
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It’s the distributors.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Holy sh—t. Rand Paul was tested 6-7 days ago. Six to seven ****ing days ago. He’s been on his daily routines for a week with covid. The senate is in real ****ing trouble.
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Hopefully he spends most of his time with his fellow republicans. Most of them deserve to die anyway.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
I'm guilty as hell for posting hyperbole, but really people, this president might be responsible for untold numbers of people dying. Something needs to be done.
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Won't be his fault. it's those damm states who couldn't get their **** together.
 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-axed-cdc-expert-job-china-months-coronavirus-outbreak-n1166186

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.
The American disease expert, a medical epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency, left her post in July, according to four sources with knowledge of the issue. The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help.

“It was heartbreaking to watch,” said Bao-Ping Zhu, a Chinese American who served in that role, which was funded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between 2007 and 2011. “If someone had been there, public health officials and governments across the world could have moved much faster.”

Zhu and the other sources said the American expert, Dr. Linda Quick, was a trainer of Chinese field epidemiologists who were deployed to the epicenter of outbreaks to help track, investigate and contain diseases. As an American CDC employee, they said, Quick was in an ideal position to be the eyes and ears on the ground for the United States and other countries on the coronavirus outbreak, and might have alerted them to the growing threat weeks earlier.
No other foreign disease experts were embedded to lead the program after Quick left in July, according to the sources. Zhu said an embedded expert can often get word of outbreaks early, after forming close relationships with Chinese counterparts.
Zhu and the other sources said Quick could have provided real-time information to U.S. and other officials around the world during the first weeks of the outbreak, when they said the Chinese government tamped down on the release of information and provided erroneous assessments.
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When this is over, he and a lot of other people in this administration need to be charged with negligent homicide.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This tool - CovidActNow - shows the potential infection curve for each state, when beds in that state could run out, and how the curve flattens with social-distancing actions. Click on your state. Share with others. Pressure your elected officials to act. <a href="https://t.co/q1LySgiziD">https://t.co/q1LySgiziD</a></p>— Beau Willimon (@BeauWillimon) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeauWillimon/status/1241772507457339397?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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