Covfefe 19: now in 3D

[MissThundercat]

Re: Covfefe 19: now in 3D

I don't envy you doing delivery during this. The Gideon campaign asked me to do canvassing this weekend. First, no because I'm semi-quarantined unless I absolutely have to go out. Second, is going door-to-door really the best idea right now?

This is why I'm asking everyone to tip extra. If anything, I'd rather engage in some "social distancing," but I'm only working part time and this really helps.

And I realize I was an idiot in going out today. Tomorrow, if I want brunch that badly, I'll make it myself.

 

[BassAle]

Again, are they at-risk people to begin with? I know of the incubation period, which is delayed (2-14 days), hence my personal precautions. I skipped a wedding/reception that is currently happening because of this fact.

It has nothing to do with being at risk. Anyone can get it and spread it. The faster it spreads, the more at risk people will flood the hospitals in a short period of time.

 

[MissThundercat]

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I agree, door to door is not good. I like the doorbell idea. Kudos to that.

Door Dash has me setting the food on the porch, taking a picture of it, then texting said picture to customer while I stand off in the distance. That being said, contact or no, TIP YOUR DELIVERY DRIVERS!

 

[The Rube]

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There might be a couple of reasons. Kids get at least one meal per day at school. Not everyone can make that up. Second, if the kids stay home then in many cases so does a parent. That means the parent can't work. That means no money (since paid leave is Socialism) and lost productivity for businesses. Third, I know that decision has been left up to local administrators in other states (NH being the latest) instead of mandated by the state.

Plus, kids seem to be mostly immune to this illness. It's really weird.

And hopefully, people tip like they do when there's a big snowstorm or something, for delivery folks. I know I tip more in that situation.

 

[BassAle]

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https://medium.com/@ariadnelabs/social-distancing-this-is-not-a-snow-day-ac21d7fa78b4

What I can clearly say is that what we do, or don’t do, over the next week will have a massive impact on the local and perhaps national trajectory of coronavirus. We are only about 11 days behind Italy and generally on track to repeat what is unfortunately happening there and throughout much of the rest of Europe very soon.
At this point, containment through contact tracing and increased testing is only part of the necessary strategy. We must move to pandemic mitigation through widespread, uncomfortable, and comprehensive social distancing. That means not only shutting down schools, work (as much as possible), group gatherings, and public events, but also making daily choices to stay away from each other as much as possible to Flatten The Curve

 

[The Rube]

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It has nothing to do with being at risk. Anyone can get it and spread it. The faster it spreads, the more at risk people will flood the hospitals in a short period of time.

If you follow the rules, you will not spread it. That's the point.

 

[aparch]

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Don't know if it's been reported here, but Sniffles tested negative for Covid-19. That was quick.

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[MissThundercat]

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Plus, kids seem to be mostly immune to this illness. It's really weird.

And hopefully, people tip like they do when there's a big snowstorm or something, for delivery folks. I know I tip more in that situation.

Depends on the person. Tonight was okay; someone even handed me cash. However, there have been times I've been stiffed on a $40 order.

 

[The Rube]

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Depends on the person. Tonight was okay; someone even handed me cash. However, there have been times I've been stiffed on a $40 order.

I am going to guess that people who have worked the "other side of the counter" tip better. They know what it's like.

 

[aparch]

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If you follow the rules, you will not spread it. That's the point.

STOP.

Please, for the love of God, just stop.


I can't find the Tweet/Facebook post now, but someone posted a comparison of infected people by age group for Korea plotted on the same chart as Italy.
It matched up perfectly, except for HEALTHY 20 TO 29 YEAR OLDS. In Korea, they were found to be *HUGE* carriers of the virus without showing any symptons. In Italy, because of their lack of testing (which is similar to the US testing method), did NOT find the same.

Thus "Healthy 20 year olds" who are carriers but didn't know it. Those are the exact people you advocate "still go about their lives" and can carry this virus home without knowing it.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Oh look, old people are afraid of getting it...unless they are republican.
here’s hoping their prayers keep their lungs pumping

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d-about-coronavirus-unless-theyre-republican/

 

[psych]

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Plus, kids seem to be mostly immune to this illness. It's really weird.

And hopefully, people tip like they do when there's a big snowstorm or something, for delivery folks. I know I tip more in that situation.

Kids aren't immune. No one is immune. They're just carriers.

 

[BassAle]

If you follow the rules, you will not spread it. That's the point.

That’s just not true. It lives on surfaces for what could be days. It lingers in the air. Just standing a few feet from someone in the bar or on the subway is enough.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

STOP.

Please, for the love of God, just stop.


I can't find the Tweet/Facebook post now, but someone posted a comparison of infected people by age group for Korea plotted on the same chart as Italy.
It matched up perfectly, except for HEALTHY 20 TO 29 YEAR OLDS. In Korea, they were found to be *HUGE* carriers of the virus without showing any symptons. In Italy, because of their lack of testing (which is similar to the US testing method), did NOT find the same.

Thus "Healthy 20 year olds" who are carriers but didn't know it. Those are the exact people you advocate "still go about their lives" and can carry this virus home without knowing it.

He’s not going to stop. Just incredible.

 

[BassAle]

STOP.

Please, for the love of God, just stop.


I can't find the Tweet/Facebook post now, but someone posted a comparison of infected people by age group for Korea plotted on the same chart as Italy.
It matched up perfectly, except for HEALTHY 20 TO 29 YEAR OLDS. In Korea, they were found to be *HUGE* carriers of the virus without showing any symptons. In Italy, because of their lack of testing (which is similar to the US testing method), did NOT find the same.

Thus "Healthy 20 year olds" who are carriers but didn't know it. Those are the exact people you advocate "still go about their lives" and can carry this virus home without knowing it.

He’s like Trump — he can’t admit to being wrong.

 

[The Rube]

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Kids aren't immune. No one is immune. They're just carriers.

I said "mostly immune." Not 100%. "Mostly."

And yes, it's on surfaces for days, but again, FOLLOW THE RULES. If you sanitize, per the guidelines, and are a not an at-risk...you're good. The devil is in the details, and you all are ignoring that.

 

[BassAle]

I said "mostly immune." Not 100%. "Mostly."

And yes, it's on surfaces for days, but again, FOLLOW THE RULES. If you sanitize, per the guidelines, and are a not an at-risk...you're good. The devil is in the details, and you all are ignoring that.

There is a difference between being immune and showing symptoms. They still get infected and spread it. (That means they are NOT doing immune)

It’s surviving in the air for hours. People with _no symptoms_ are breathing this into the air. Washing your hands after you go to the bar won’t help. You can still bring this home and give it to someone else. That person could get very sick, or spread it to someone that will.

YOU are the one ignoring what the experts are saying. Sanitizing reduces risk, but it doesn’t guarantee you won’t become infected and spread it to someone else.

 

[jen]

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I said "mostly immune." Not 100%. "Mostly."

And yes, it's on surfaces for days, but again, FOLLOW THE RULES. If you sanitize, per the guidelines, and are a not an at-risk...you're good. The devil is in the details, and you all are ignoring that.

Washing your hands REDUCES the risk. It does NOT eliminate it. You know what does, though? staying home.

 

[The Rube]

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There is a difference between being immune and showing symptoms. They still get infected and spread it. (That means they are NOT doing immune)

It’s surviving in the air for hours. People with _no symptoms_ are breathing this into the air. Washing your hands after you go to the bar won’t help. You can still bring this home and give it to someone else. That person could get very sick, or spread it to someone that will.

YOU are the one ignoring what the experts are saying. Sanitizing reduces risk, but it doesn’t guarantee you won’t become infected and spread it to someone else.

It's generally not infecting kids. Dunno why. (That is a big WTeff?). If you are a non-risk, and follow the rules, that buck stops there. You have killed the potential carrier criteria. If someone who does NOT follow that protocol, and passes it on to you, but you still follow the rules, you have killed that carrier. Get what I'm saying?

I am an at-risk. I'm following the rules, but I am still an at-risk, therefore, I'm not going out in public, except for work.

 

[leswp1]

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*sigh*
1. There are at-risk people out there. I'm one of them. I stay home (minus work, and I work with one other person). I follow the guidelines for sanitizing.
2. There are non-risk people (in general) that also follow guidelines, hey, free to go.
3. There are people out there who don't follow guidelines, and are also healthy and not at-risk. Those people need to stay home.

It's not just bars. It's any public space she's calling out. That is a bit over-reacting, IMO. See situation #2.

You are dead wrong here. Everyone, even thought “not at-risk” should be avoiding public spaces and contact with people that are outside their household as much as possible

Unless your goal is a mandatory lockdown like Italy.

This post of yours is panic, IMO. If you follow the rules, so to speak, I believe you will be fine in public. I would not be paralyzed if I fell into situation #2. Unfortunately, I don't qualify, so I am taking precautions.

Plus, kids seem to be mostly immune to this illness. It's really weird.

And hopefully, people tip like they do when there's a big snowstorm or something, for delivery folks. I know I tip more in that situation.

OK, Trying to be respectful and not virtually grab you by the throat. Maybe you haven't been following along with all the posts here so I will review.

There is NO WAY to tell someone is not infected. That means there are no non-risk people. Zero.

In order to know someone is not infected you would need to do serial testing with a fast result test on a daily basis. We do not have that. We do not even have testing.

If you are infected you shed virus.

You do not need to show symptoms to shed virus. A very large amount of viral shed usually occurs before symptoms are evident

This means all the younger people who appear healthy are like trojan horses. They shed virus like hell but are not aware of it.

Kids ARE NOT immune to the illness. They are less likely to end up dead but there is zero evidence that they do not get infection.

So in brief- the people who appear the healthiest are the most likely to spread the virus. They shut everything down because that is the only way they can prevent these healthy walking viral loads from spreading.

If you are a responsible person you should #staythefvckhome.
If you do not stay home you are guilty of putting peoples lives at risk.
THe only time anyone should be going out is if it is absolutely necessary. THis does not include going out to be social, party, go tot he movies, or any other thing that is not task driven for survival.

This is not being panic driven. This is responding to the fact that to not follow this will result in spread and putting people like you who are immuno-compromised in harms way.

We all wish we could do what we want. No one likes to be told they can't do stuff they like but staying home should be everyone. Not just the people who are at increased risk to die.