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Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

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Good news coming out of the UK. The Ebola anti-viral, remdesivir, is showing good signs of beating the virus. Some with next day improvement.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The difference is, they voted for it. We didn't.
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Not all of them voted for it. Not all of them know what they were voting for. Not all of them knew better. TThe system down there is shameful but if that is what you have had your whole life how do you know to want more? I use my current town as example. They have the worst education in the state. Literally pay the least per pupil except 1 town. Can't tell you how many of them have no idea what good schools and funding look like. They think striving for that is uppity. They don't even know they should want more. I can see that being the same in other places for things like what they expect for medical care
 
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Hearing rumors through the grapevine that the borders will be completely sealed (no one in, no one out) to all non-essential travel on Monday, possibly all commercial flights ordered grounded (including domestic), and at least two weeks of a nationwide lockdown.

If this gets legs, expect another run on the big box stores this weekend.
 
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leswp1 said:
I use my current town as example. They have the worst education in the state. Literally pay the least per pupil except 1 town. Can't tell you how many of them have no idea what good schools and funding look like. They think striving for that is uppity. They don't even know they should want more. I can see that being the same in other places for things like what they expect for medical care
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Then they can't be helped.
 
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I don't look at as blame so much as failure to invest in healthcare period. It really isn't a matter of passing judgment but predicting outcome. Wuhan showed that they had a much higher rate of bad outcome because the healthcare system was overwhelmed. The outlying counties fared better. In areas of highly concentrated population the outcomes will be bad. In areas without a system it will be bad. In areas with high comorbidity it will be bad. The South has a few strikes against- less beds and more comorbidity.

I wasn't looking at it in number of tests being done. I missed that was what you were doing. I hadn't really considered doing that. I was thinking more of fatalities and deaths in relation to positive tests. Not sure its going to be a great measure to look at ratio of test/positive results/fatalities. The test availability os to variable. The states that were first hit didn't really have access and there are still states that don't have access.

My immediate thought was the higher numbers positive/test were sure screening in the right people to test. At this point test/fatalities may be that the tests being done are screening in more accurately for probable disease and the places less positives are testing with less stringent protocols and testing more who are likely to be negative. Of course the way to prevent is to figure out disease burden by testing everyone but really not many places capable of that yet.

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Not many places are capable yet because the federal govt. *******ed us. I think the following numbers would be better for everyone if, you know, there were enough tests and materials to go around. I agree with basically everything you said though. Anyways, 23 blue states, 27 red states. I considered Iowa red, Virginia blue. Wisconsin and Michigan blue because I trust y’all to build the blue wall again.

Every blue state is averaging 1 test per 3,955 people.
Every red state is averaging 1 test every 7,610 people, almost double.

Significant difference. 19 states kept it under 1 test per 2,000 people; 24 couldn’t keep it under 4,000. I’m sure population densities, access to healthcare, etc., etc. etc. all play a role. Thanks to dx for giving me something to do for the past couple hours of my shift.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Hearing rumors through the grapevine that the borders will be completely sealed (no one in, no one out) to all non-essential travel on Monday, possibly all commercial flights ordered grounded (including domestic), and at least two weeks of a nationwide lockdown.

If this gets legs, expect another run on the big box stores this weekend.
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I have a few days off in the next couple of months. My company wanted to know if I was going out of state, and if I was flying. The answer was no to both of them. And given MN's semi-shutdown status at this point (and I think they are going to go the shelter/home route) I doubt I'll be traveling at all.
 
huskyfan said:
Good news coming out of the UK. The Ebola anti-viral, remdesivir, is showing good signs of beating the virus. Some with next day improvement.
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When I hear these reports what always comes to mind is, did nobody try this in the last 3 months? It seems like the first thing you would do in Wuhan is find out which of every conceivable anti-viral drug is most effective.
Or is it that it’s helpful only in the UK population for some reason?
Wait... you’re not on Facebook are you?
 
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geezer said:
When I hear these reports what always comes to mind is, did nobody try this in the last 3 months? It seems like the first thing you would do in Wuhan is find out which of every conceivable anti-viral drug is most effective.
Or is it that it’s helpful only in the UK population for some reason?
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Each country's laws are different. Testing and such. Then, find volunteers to do said testing. Then, you have to prove it works (or could work). Red tape. A lot of it.
 
geezer said:
When I hear these reports what always comes to mind is, did nobody try this in the last 3 months? It seems like the first thing you would do in Wuhan is find out which of every conceivable anti-viral drug is most effective.
Or is it that it’s helpful only in the UK population for some reason?
Wait... you’re not on Facebook are you?
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Congratulations. You see through bull****. :)
 
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French Rage said:
Lou Dobbs is officially part of the hoax. Man, how much did Soros pay him?!
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Nah, they made up the story about the staffer getting the hoax virus to force him off the air and silence more conservatives. Duh. ;)

Per WikiLeaks, Dr. Fauci wrote a love letter to Hillary though! :eek:
 
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I know watching trump is like watching a wreck in a NASCAR race, we're scared of the outcome but we JUST. CAN'T. TURN. AWAY. I'm turning away and suggest instead watching stuff like this. It is a reminder that there are people in the midst of this who don't need to be shot. Dedicated public servants who are doing whatever they can to help people make it through this. Healthcare professionals (some are posting in these very threads -- God bless them for their much needed information during this time as well as the work they are tirelessly doing away from our little family) are literally risking their lives right now.

it's amazing actually how much information we can get right here. I learn a hundred times more from browsing this thread than I ever will listening to trump's congratulatory press conferences, which is all they really are. Pay attention to your local officials and what they have to say. They have just as many professionals lined up as trump's team. Plus they don't have trump and his bobble headed vice president.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Hearing rumors through the grapevine that the borders will be completely sealed (no one in, no one out) to all non-essential travel on Monday, possibly all commercial flights ordered grounded (including domestic), and at least two weeks of a nationwide lockdown.

If this gets legs, expect another run on the big box stores this weekend.
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That’s like the third or fourth time I’ve heard this rumor over the past three or four days. Every time it’s 48 hours out.

I don’t buy it until it happens.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
I know watching trump is like watching a wreck in a NASCAR race, we're scared of the outcome but we JUST. CAN'T. TURN. AWAY. I'm turning away and suggest instead watching stuff like this. It is a reminder that there are people in the midst of this who don't need to be shot. Dedicated public servants who are doing whatever they can to help people make it through this. Healthcare professionals (some are posting in these very threads -- God bless them for their much needed information during this time as well as the work they are tirelessly doing away from our little family) are literally risking their lives right now.

it's amazing actually how much information we can get right here. I learn a hundred times more from browsing this thread than I ever will listening to trump's congratulatory press conferences, which is all they really are. Pay attention to your local officials and what they have to say. They have just as many professionals lined up as trump's team. Plus they don't have trump and his bobble headed vice president.
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I’ve been getting good info from a couple of BBC podcasts. Depressing as could be, but well reported stuff on the worldwide state of things
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Nah, they made up the story about the staffer getting the hoax virus to force him off the air and silence more conservatives. Duh. ;)

Per WikiLeaks, Dr. Fauci wrote a love letter to Hillary though! :eek:
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Yes, all her fault.

When will the Trumpies admit that they helped to "elect" a certifiable moron?
 
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