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Covfefe-19: Do What Now?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drumpf can’t have it both ways. <br><br>Either the federal government is going to manage the response and pay for it. Or it needs to pay the states to do it. <br><br>States can’t borrow and run deficits. <br><br>This is a NATIONAL emergency. Let’s start acting like it.</p>— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1241179368715673602?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
dxmnkd316 said:
That’s like the third or fourth time I’ve heard this rumor over the past three or four days. Every time it’s 48 hours out.

I don’t buy it until it happens.
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It's like Trump's "we're two weeks away from..."

We're two weeks away from everything according to him.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The last time I heard this many ambulance sirens piercing the NYC night was 9/11 . <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> is slamming us...8000 cases and counting, hospitals full, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Drumpf?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Drumpf</a> declared us a national emergency zone. Things turned radically today....our surge has started. <a href="https://t.co/jEwk7W2upe">pic.twitter.com/jEwk7W2upe</a></p>— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) <a href="https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett/status/1241194881273540609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the average American the best way to tell if you have covid-19 is to cough in a rich person’s face and wait for their test results</p>— Harry Moroz (@hrmoroz) <a href="https://twitter.com/hrmoroz/status/1241025578527903750?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the average American the best way to tell if you have covid-19 is to cough in a rich person’s face and wait for their test results</p>— Harry Moroz (@hrmoroz) <a href="https://twitter.com/hrmoroz/status/1241025578527903750?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Brilliant!

Rumor here in Mexico is Sunday Night the border closes...but there is no proof and I would think if the rumor had any legs the media would be all over it.

I am still leaving Sunday though ;)
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the biggest obstacles to tackling this crisis head-on is the inability to test and identify those infected. The <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> admin refused to acknowledge the severity of this crisis, and today we are left without enough tests for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a>. We ask: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhereAreTheTests?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhereAreTheTests</a> <a href="https://t.co/VuXCcyOOyd">https://t.co/VuXCcyOOyd</a></p>— Dr. Rob Davidson (@DrRobDavidson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrRobDavidson/status/1241100030171328514?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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3/20 complete.

New US cases by date:

Code: 
3/01       0
3/02      25
3/03      24
3/04      34
3/05      63
3/06      98
3/07     116
3/08     106
3/09     163
3/10     290
3/11     307
3/12     396
3/13     550
3/14     696
3/15     737
3/16     983
3/17   1,748
3/18   2,848
3/19   4,530
3/20   5,594

New US deaths by date:

Code: 
3/01      0
3/02      5
3/03      3
3/04      2
3/05      1
3/06      3
3/07      4
3/08      3
3/09      4
3/10      4
3/11      8
3/12      3
3/13      8
3/14      8
3/15     11
3/16     18
3/17     23
3/18     41
3/19     57
3/20     49

Worldwide there were 30,665 new cases yesterday, and 1,356 new deaths.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Never. Most of them are as rock stupid as he is.
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It isn't just that they're stupid. He hates the same people they hate. He makes the people they hate angry. He makes it acceptable for them to express their bigotry. That's worth everything to them. If anything goes wrong, it's the black guy's fault or Hillary's emails or George Soros...never Sniffles or his GOP allies.
 
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geezer said:
When I hear these reports what always comes to mind is, did nobody try this in the last 3 months? It seems like the first thing you would do in Wuhan is find out which of every conceivable anti-viral drug is most effective.
Or is it that it’s helpful only in the UK population for some reason?
Wait... you’re not on Facebook are you?
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Yes, it has been tried - in the UK, US and Italy - probably China too - in the last three months. The US and China have studies underway, but as it has cured some patients, it seems hopeful. Medical personal are throwing any anti viral at it that they know of. Most have not worked, but this one shows promise. Some good news amongst a lot of bad news!
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1/ BREAKING: 51 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICE</a> detainees in the Bristol county jail have just jointly signed a letter detailing the circumstances of their detention and their fears of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/covid19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#covid19</a> while trapped in unsafe, unsanitary, unfit conditions. <br><br>They must be heard.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FreeThemAll?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FreeThemAll</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mapoli?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mapoli</a> <a href="https://t.co/GdJiMCGQus">pic.twitter.com/GdJiMCGQus</a></p>— RELEASE EVERYONE IN ICE CUSTODY NOW (@matt_cam) <a href="https://twitter.com/matt_cam/status/1241094100591480832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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alfablue said:
As said before, there's no testing going on in the UP. They are part of the state that thinks this is a hoax based on statements a month ago. Relative to those of us down south, I suspect they will get hit pretty hard. And the people panicking with guns will be a problem for themselves.
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Wha??? There is testing going on in the UP. Marquette has at least one case I know of. A Canadian woman, with the virus, flew into the US Soo. Busy there trying to round up those who were on the flight for testing.

Yoopers think it's a hoax? I suppose a few do. Just like a few of the radical left think the sky is falling. Hard to tell how hard we will be hit. There are good things - low population density - very active out of doors - social distancing is already a way of life and bad things - poor health care - older population - unhealthy lifestyle in regards to smoking, drinking and eating.

If guns are a problem then Detroit area is going to get slammed.
 
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Saw snowmobiles heading north yesterday, good to see them staying home and abiding by the no unnecessary travel suggestions.
 
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A fascinating animated bar graph within this piece from BBC...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

Amazing to see how the various countries shift-about in the order. (Edit): If the graph continues to be updated and available, it may clearly indicate the countries that handled the situation well, and those who failed miserably.

Edit 2: After some ‘shower thoughts’, this data should probably be normalized by population density to provide a better indication on a country-by-country comparison.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow. We’re spiking faster than Italy did, just 10 days behind them. <a href="https://t.co/vF57a95s05">https://t.co/vF57a95s05</a></p>— Melissa Jo Peltier (@MelissaJPeltier) <a href="https://twitter.com/MelissaJPeltier/status/1241106596287176707?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/2...-symptoms-50-have-very-moderate-cold-symptoms

Relatively speaking (per thousand people or per million people), the number per million tested in Iceland is almost 4× the number per million tested in South Korea. (South Korea was testing 10,000 people a day before the US had even tested 5,000 — despite both countries having their first case confirmed on the same day — and appears to be second in regards to number of people tested per million. The country has tested approximately 268,000 people, or about 1 out of every 200 people.)

“deCode has published the results of a total of 5 490 tests. Those have yielded 47 positive results (0.86%) indicating that the prevalence of the virus is modest among the general population,” the Government of Iceland reports. “A total of 409 cases have been identified in Iceland since the first case on February 28th. One person with COVID-19 has died. Six individuals with COVID-19 are hospitalized, one in intensive care.”
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Commenting on the country’s good results, South Korean Foreign Minister Kang Kyung-wha told the BBC, “Testing is central because that leads to early detection, it minimises further spread and it quickly treats those found with the virus. That is the key behind our very low fatality rate as well.”

It has been said many times: Test, test, test.

Unfortunately, the United States has been one of the worst — if not the worst — for testing for COVID-19.
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Kepler said:
3/20 complete. New cases by date:

New US cases per day:

Code: 
3/01       0
3/02      25
3/03      24
3/04      34
3/05      63
3/06      98
3/07     116
3/08     106
3/09     163
3/10     290
3/11     307
3/12     396
3/13     550
3/14     696
3/15     737
3/16     983
3/17   1,748
3/18   2,848
3/19   4,530
3/20   5,594
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The CDGR (like CAGR, but daily) in cases has been remarkably stable. If we start on 3/7 (first day with 100+ cases), then by 3/12 the CDGR has steadied out to 41% more cases every day. By 3/20, it was at 38.5%.

Something's gotta give soon - projecting out 38.5% CDGR means that all 330M people in the US will be infected by April 19.
 
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huskyfan said:
Wha??? There is testing going on in the UP. Marquette has at least one case I know of. A Canadian woman, with the virus, flew into the US Soo. Busy there trying to round up those who were on the flight for testing.

Yoopers think it's a hoax? I suppose a few do. Just like a few of the radical left think the sky is falling. Hard to tell how hard we will be hit. There are good things - low population density - very active out of doors - social distancing is already a way of life and bad things - poor health care - older population - unhealthy lifestyle in regards to smoking, drinking and eating.

If guns are a problem then Detroit area is going to get slammed.
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So somehow the two people I know who are sick are not getting the testing, and they were part of the market workers trying to keep people supplied. Seems to me, being on the front like for helping people and exposure, they should have been tested. Instead, they were just sent home with hopes.

And the gun part was noting geezers post that people in the same area I'm talking about (Houghton) plan on taking their guns out and looking for looters.

Given that situation hasn't happened here in Metro Detroit, they were making up fears. Which is really dangerous.
 
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BTW, the people in the red states that face the worst are the minority poor. The ones who are so tired of their situation that they don't bother voting as nobody helps. They have very little access to healthcare, and just as bad access to healthy food.

And it's pretty realistic to think that their situation was not because of lack of THEIR effort- it was real effort to keep minorities down. It happens in blue states, for sure- so it's natural to think its worse in red states.

The other people we should be worried about are the worker immigrants- the ones dumpy blames for bringing in the virus. In spite of the actual numbers from Mexico. They are going to get no help, they are not going to have access to hospitals, they can't go home anymore.

I think we hear more from New York, SF, and Washington is that they accept this problem, and want to make sure that the public there are 100% aware. But I suspect there is real suppression of info in other areas.

I very much hope I am wrong. Very much.
 
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